Inet.......The last straw

[me_and_ed]

I am sure I will get lambasted for this as well a terse response from Emily however I am done with Inet, the lack of customer service is appalling. There are a lot of things if I have issues with online casino's that can wait, the one that cannot is when I make a deposit and it does not show up in my gaming account, I am cool if I can connect on live chat or on the phone and find out what is up, with Inet there is no chance.

My last 2 deposits via USEMYFUNDS have somehow hung up, I use this funding source often and have no other problems getting immediate credit with any other casinos. The first time was last Tuesday, I claimed the tempting Tuesaday coupon, made dep, money came out of my bank account, recieved email confirmation from USEMYFUNDS, but nothing in my gaming account, I immediately forwarded this email to support at Inet, took approx 2 hours to get my account credited, the original dep was there but no redemption of the coupon even though it was redeemed and you could click on coupon details, emailed support, absolutely no email response. Tonight I claimed the Monday madness coupon, made my dep and same issue happened, went through the same steps, emailed my receipt, as well explained about the bonus from the last dep was not credited and please credit this one, guess what, 3 hours later when they decided to credit my deposit no bonus yet again?? Do they even read my emails, of course they do, this casino is so arrogant, they answer emails when they choose to do so, others they ignore, this is a long standing issue with this place and I am simply fed up.

I respect the fact that they pay their customers, unfortunately thats all they have going for them, account closed.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

My last 2 deposits via USEMYFUNDS have somehow hung up

Same thing happened to me, while i was waiting for USEMYFUNDS deposit from last night to be credited manually , the Super Bowl coupon have expired and no bonus was added. USEMYFUNDS (BANK) always worked great before

 

[me_and_ed]

Same thing happened to me, while i was waiting for USEMYFUNDS deposit from last night to be credited manually , the Super Bowl coupon have expired and no bonus was added. USEMYFUNDS (BANK) always worked great before

Only at Inet though, the 3 other casinos I play it work flawless, they are not RTG.

 

[takethemoney]

This is a very good reason for implementing live chat. Trying to stay away from whiny people asking for a free chip is a really dumb excuse not to have it. Trained CSRs can handle such people and as tight as their software is...they could afford such service.

*live chat should be a mandatory component for being accredited.....and so should a phone number*

Why Bryan doesn't impose this simple rule on them to remain accredited is beyond me. {{{shrug}}}

People need fast response when things go awry and you simply can't get what you need with them, when you need it most!

 

[bpb]

Email only response would be fine .... if they actually responded to their emails.

Inet chooses to ignore some non trivial percentages of the email that they receive. They then claim that the fault is of the sender. I've never had issues with email communication with any accredited casino, except for them.

When I email Bodog, I get an immediate auto-generated response acknowledging the receipt of my email, as well as a reference number to use for future correspondence. I also then always get an actual response in the alloted timeframe. Same with Slotocash.

So they payout. Great. Lots of other reputable RTG casinos do that, without the attitude and treating you like shit.

 

[me_and_ed]

The irony, they cannot answer my emails promptly or at all when it comes to the bonus yet they promplty responded letting me know my account was closed. A forum untouchable for sure, makes me sick.

 

[The Dude]

The irony, they cannot answer my emails promptly or at all when it comes to the bonus yet they promplty responded letting me know my account was closed. A forum untouchable for sure, makes me sick.

No one is untouchable in this forum. You know this.

I'm sorry they are not meeting the expectations of what ought to be happening customer service-wise (prompt emails, etc.). I'll flag this thread for their customer service to investigate.

But really, we don't need another iNetBet bashing fest. Let's opt for constructive criticism, thanks!

 

[takethemoney]

No one is untouchable in this forum. You know this.

I'm sorry they are not meeting the expectations of what ought to be happening customer service-wise (prompt emails, etc.). I'll flag this thread for their customer service to investigate.

But really, we don't need another iNetBet bashing fest. Let's opt for constructive criticism, thanks!

I think it was constructive and we've grown tired of people not listening. Their business model is too primadona.

 

[Nate]

But really, we don't need another iNetBet bashing fest. Let's opt for constructive criticism, thanks!

Bryan,

You know that the 'Constructive Criticism' is never heeded by this group. It's not a bashing fest, these are VALID and real issues being experienced by the membership here.

They don't respond to other emails but promptly respond that the account is closed ... I can't believe in this day and age that their behaviour is so primitive towards their players. It disappointing that it just happens over and over and over and over..... with no consequences or the slightest remorse...

Respectfully,

Nate

 

[maxd]

A forum untouchable for sure, makes me sick.

This is not "valid and constructive criticism", it's just bunk. Look at the number of threads where Inet is routinely bashed, you call that "untouchable"?!? Your comment is trollish BS and should be treated accordingly.

For all those legions of disgruntled players out there I suggest you try the PAB service, if for no other reason than that's what it's there for. On the other hand if you'd prefer to bitch and moan here on the forums then you're welcome to take your chances.

 

[iNetBet Promos]

Hi All,

We are aware of an issue with UseMyServices. The tech guys are working with them to try to resolve this at present.

For some reason when someone is directed to make a deposit our servers are not receiving an answer back from them. Thus the account is not credited instantly. The deposits are having to be applied manually.

However as we are not receiving any confirmations we do not know until a client tells us that a deposit was made. A member of the accounts team then has to check with UseMyServices for the transaction and apply a manual credit. Hence there may be a slight delay as standard support member does not have access to processor account information.

Additionally a manual credit is not recognised by the system for bonus coupons. If a client wants a bonus applied then again we can do this manually.

me_and_ed if this was not done on your account my apologies for this. Please PM me your account details and I can see to it that the relevant bonus is applied.

Our apologies for any inconvenience this causes we hope to have this issue resolved with UseMyServices shortly.

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos

 

[chuchu59]

This is not "valid and constructive criticism", it's just bunk. Look at the number of threads where Inet is routinely bashed, you call that "untouchable"?!? Your comment is trollish BS and should be treated accordingly.

For all those legions of disgruntled players out there I suggest you try the PAB service, if for no other reason than that's what it's there for. On the other hand if you'd prefer to bitch and moan here on the forums then you're welcome to take your chances.

While I agree this single quote is a bit out of line this casino has personnel that are very arrogant when clients show dissatisfaction over the way things have been handled. I attest to this myself. It's actually quite funny that Inet, in the post above, shifted the focus on Usemyservices when me_and_ed was obviously displeased with the services the casino is providing.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Hi All,

We are aware of an issue with UseMyServices. The tech guys are working with them to try to resolve this at present.

For some reason when someone is directed to make a deposit our servers are not receiving an answer back from them. Thus the account is not credited instantly. The deposits are having to be applied manually.

However as we are not receiving any confirmations we do not know until a client tells us that a deposit was made. A member of the accounts team then has to check with UseMyServices for the transaction and apply a manual credit. Hence there may be a slight delay as standard support member does not have access to processor account information.

Additionally a manual credit is not recognised by the system for bonus coupons. If a client wants a bonus applied then again we can do this manually.

me_and_ed if this was not done on your account my apologies for this. Please PM me your account details and I can see to it that the relevant bonus is applied.

Our apologies for any inconvenience this causes we hope to have this issue resolved with UseMyServices shortly.

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos

The problem seems to be down to the slow turnaround of the emails. It takes 2 hours to get the deposit credited manually, and only then does the player find that only half their issue has been resolved, and they have to send another email and wait another 2 hours. There is also the suggestion that this lengthy timescale means that coupons are expiring during the process, and that CS may then be sticking to the rules, rather than showing some common sense and crediting the bonus based on the time the claim was first initiated, rather than when the deposit was credited manually. The CS dealing with the emails are also denied access to some of the information they need to resolve such queries, which only adds to the delay.

Apart from the issue of ignored emails, there have been complaints where CS have only read the first part of an email, resolved that issue only, and then ignored any other issues or questions in the same email. The player than has to ask again and again over a period of time in order to simply catch up on issues that at any other casino would probably be dealt with in a single contact.

The ignored email issue needs to be looked into more thoroughly. The current attitude seems to be to shift the blame to the players' ISP, and do nothing about it. The players' ISP will do the same, and blame the merchant's ISP. This is a "catch 22" situation, and does not allow the player to move forward with a solution simply because no party involved will accept responsibilty. This leaves them only ONE option, apply pressure by other means, and some do this by starting a "bashing" thread on a forum in the hope that it will force action that would find out the cause of the problems.

Even with iNetBet being aware of this issue, and efforts being made to resolve it, this was NOT communicated to players, hence it happened AGAIN six days later on a subsequent deposit, leading to a repeat of the earlier "runaround".

The result is the loss of a customer that needn't have happened, and probably a gain of a customer by one of your competitors.

The excuse about phone and chat being unviable because of hordes of players begging for free chips is BS, and almost everybody here sees it. This only leads to the belief that there is another reason, and one the casino wants kept from customers. My thoughts are that email only means far fewer CS staff per player are needed, and this is why email breaks down when an issue arises that affects many players all at once. Other casinos that have email, chat, and phone seem to be able to answer emails FASTER than inetbet, yet inetbet CS do NOT have the distraction of having to switch between different modes of communication, so should surely be able to devote all their time to answering emails, and provide a level of service that cannot be beaten by those engaging multi-tasking CS agents. Overload of CS inevitably leads to some emails not being dealt with, and this not being picked up because of the workload. When the load is light, CS do answer emails well within the advertised timescales, hence we have mixed experiences among players.

Most players know that when an email cannot be delivered, it "bounces" and returns an error code to the sender that allows diagnosis of the error. Where no "bounce" occurs, it means the email has been delivered to the destination server, and is no longer "in the tubes" of the internet. If it fails to make it from the destination server to the CS desk, the fault lies either with the ISP of the operator, or the operator's own internal network (including human error where CS accidentally miss an email in their queue, and move on to the next, never to return).

iNetBet's reluctance to return a delivery receipt to confirm to players that their email has been received, and will be dealt with, is rather puzzling. If implemented, it would allow the narrowing down of the causes where problems arise, as no delivery receipt would mean that the email got lost in the internet somewhere, and that the fault did NOT lie with iNetBet. Conversly, if a delivery receipt is returned, and the issue then not dealt with, this puts the blame 100% squarely on iNetBet, so a few might wonder whether the reluctance to implement delivery receipts is to prevent blame being proven to lie with iNetBet, which in turn suggest a lack of confidence in the email only system by iNetBet, let alone the players.

When this issue was discussed before, a number of changes were propsed to iNetBet that would improve their email only approach. This was a while ago, so how many of these suggestions have now been implemented?

 

[AudiManinBoro]

To be honest Inet deserves the bashing. They are using an outdated outmoded concept on running their business and as others have pointed out in this day and age, the simple service of providing live chat should be mandatory as a condition of accreditation. Having to wait hours and hours for something that could be cleared up in seconds by a trained customer service rep is NOT asking for the world. Im sorry if you cant see that Bryan and Max, but this is a major flaw in the accreditation process in allowing casinos to pick when and how they choose to contact their customers. As for the Inet bashing, a lot of it is bunk but a lot is not and its the not that are causing problems, ie depositing and not being able to correct an issue that 32red would fix in 30 seconds.

Inet needs to join the real world and no respect intended Bryan if they choose to remain accredited here it is one rule you should add.
Casinos MUST have live chat. Sorry if you disagree but i think most of your members dont

 

[X-Raided]

I am sure I will get lambasted for this as well a terse response from Emily however I am done with Inet, the lack of customer service is appalling. There are a lot of things if I have issues with online casino's that can wait, the one that cannot is when I make a deposit and it does not show up in my gaming account, I am cool if I can connect on live chat or on the phone and find out what is up, with Inet there is no chance.

My last 2 deposits via USEMYFUNDS have somehow hung up, I use this funding source often and have no other problems getting immediate credit with any other casinos. The first time was last Tuesday, I claimed the tempting Tuesaday coupon, made dep, money came out of my bank account, recieved email confirmation from USEMYFUNDS, but nothing in my gaming account, I immediately forwarded this email to support at Inet, took approx 2 hours to get my account credited, the original dep was there but no redemption of the coupon even though it was redeemed and you could click on coupon details, emailed support, absolutely no email response. Tonight I claimed the Monday madness coupon, made my dep and same issue happened, went through the same steps, emailed my receipt, as well explained about the bonus from the last dep was not credited and please credit this one, guess what, 3 hours later when they decided to credit my deposit no bonus yet again?? Do they even read my emails, of course they do, this casino is so arrogant, they answer emails when they choose to do so, others they ignore, this is a long standing issue with this place and I am simply fed up.

I respect the fact that they pay their customers, unfortunately thats all they have going for them, account closed.

I would imagine that if Bryan really did add a rule stating that "you must have live chat implemented in your
casino in order to remain accredited and in good standing with CM" and removed iNetBet temporarily from the
accredited list, INetBet would bring live chat back quicker than two shakes of a jack rabbit's tail.

Maybe then, I would deposit more with them... Until that happens though, my money goes to Jackpot Capital
when I want my RTG fix.

 

[Antonia1953]

At what point is it fair to the players to warn them about administrative inadequacies? There are a lot of parameters to accomodate the affiliates and casino owners, but what about the people that fund them? I agree, that any public statement should be true and handled responsibly, but I expect affilates and casino owners to do the same. Inetbet has processing and customer service problems. They cannot process a visa debit card transaction, but they claim they can in their endless supply of daily emails...no communication problems there. We know all about what they do well, but they have shortcomings and people have repeatedly tried to advise the forum of them. Some are irresponsible in the way they present the issue, and it is handled promptly by moderators, which is exactly how it should be addressed. Unfortunately, it seems that the only time the reporting of inadequate service is tolerated is during the Baptism by Fire process, which let's face it, anybody can behave for a couple of weeks-even me. What about responsibility in advising players of problems they may face? For instance, if a player has a small budget for gaming and cannot tolerate slow payments, would it not be better to advise them of slow paying casinos, so that they can avoid playing at them? Our expectations of casinos has really fallen into two categories; those that pay and those that do not. Yet a casino that pays can stop paying from one day to the next, and there are always indications of problems prior to their fall. When you say, keep it quiet and we will assist you or take your chances with the forum. What chances are you referring to? The chance of receiving a nasty disposition from an affiliate or a sharp reprimand from forum administrators? The balance of civil conduct goes two ways, or should. When it doesn't, it creates frustration and intolerance- whether it be initiated by the player, or the casino or the forum administrators. Every complaint of bad behavior is an opportunity to highlight good behavior. There is natural balance and there is constructed balance.

I want to make it clear that I am not interested in triggering any kind of slamfest because it serves no purpose. There are rules and regulations in this industry that will not be changed, whether you personally like them or not. To take the podium based on those issues is absurd and is equivalent to telling a Judge that you broke the law due to ignorance.

 

[maxd]

I would imagine that if Bryan really did add a rule stating that "you must have live chat implemented in your
casino....

I don't think Bryan is likely to be telling people what services they must offer. That's basically meddling with how they choose to conduct their business and that's not Bryan's MO.

I think the real point behind the live chat thing is that people are saying the casino needs to be responsive to it's players. In fact that is already part of the Accred requirements:

Must be able to take care of any player issue swiftly and professionally.

So if they are not doing this then they would be breaking the Accred terms, and that would definitely be a PAB-able issue. So where are the PABs? I see a few from time to time but certainly not enough to call their Accreditation into question. And a good percentage of the iNetBet-related PABs I do see are from abusive players who want their bad behaviour to be ignored while they call for sanctions against iNetBet for not giving them what they want. Not going to happen. If you are abusive to CS personnel then you deserve to shown to the door regardless of what your excuses may be.

As far as I can tell a lot of the iNetBet issues that pop up here on the forum are basically "I don't like how they treat and/or talk to me". Ok, but that's more of a personal thing isn't it? If you don't like how someone talks to you then you terminate the conversation and you vote with your feet. Not to put too fine a point on it but if you perpetuate that relationship then you're as responsible for the problems as they are: it's time to quit your bitching and hit the road.

Obviously there is a difference between personal style and negligence. What I'm saying is that the vast majority of the iNetBet cases aired here on the forums seem to boil down to being instances of the former -- complaints about their Customer Service style -- and not the latter, namely documented CS negligence. Assuming that's true then it's not an Accreditation issue. On the other hand if it is negligence then were's the proof, and why haven't we seen it show up in the PABs? To date there is no PAB evidence to support such a claim.

FWIW I'm not questioning the proposal that a lot of iNetBet customers would be happier if they offered live chat. But I am questioning what that's got to do with us. As long as they are addressing player issues per the Accreditation terms then we have nothing (public) to say on the matter, if I understand Bryan's position correctly. As ever his is the final word as far as CM policy is concerned.

 

[me_and_ed]

This is not "valid and constructive criticism", it's just bunk. Look at the number of threads where Inet is routinely bashed, you call that "untouchable"?!? Your comment is trollish BS and should be treated accordingly.

For all those legions of disgruntled players out there I suggest you try the PAB service, if for no other reason than that's what it's there for. On the other hand if you'd prefer to bitch and moan here on the forums then you're welcome to take your chances.

Seriously Max, trollish bashing, how is this, no sense flexing the censorship muscle, this is a forum, there are criteria that you and Bryan preach, one is accesibility, if nobody speaks up how will it ever change, I am not going to PAB for 2 bonuses not being credited. Inet has had numerous complaints, I have never seen anything done about it, same crap each day, the forum members are pretty educated and I believe understand commerce, lets call a spade a spade and move on, there is nothing trollish about it.

Hi All,

We are aware of an issue with UseMyServices. The tech guys are working with them to try to resolve this at present.

For some reason when someone is directed to make a deposit our servers are not receiving an answer back from them. Thus the account is not credited instantly. The deposits are having to be applied manually.

However as we are not receiving any confirmations we do not know until a client tells us that a deposit was made. A member of the accounts team then has to check with UseMyServices for the transaction and apply a manual credit. Hence there may be a slight delay as standard support member does not have access to processor account information.

Additionally a manual credit is not recognised by the system for bonus coupons. If a client wants a bonus applied then again we can do this manually.

me_and_ed if this was not done on your account my apologies for this. Please PM me your account details and I can see to it that the relevant bonus is applied.

Our apologies for any inconvenience this causes we hope to have this issue resolved with UseMyServices shortly.

Best Regards
iNetBet Promos

Emily,
Thanks for the response however there is no sense going backwards now, on at least 3 occasions (I have saved all email correspondence and lack there of) in the past 2 weeks customer service has chosen not to respond (on multiple attempts), my last email yesterday was clear and concise with the same issue and my follow up was not responded, my account closure was answered pretty quickly. My account is closed and will remain that way.

Regards

No one is untouchable in this forum. You know this.

I'm sorry they are not meeting the expectations of what ought to be happening customer service-wise (prompt emails, etc.). I'll flag this thread for their customer service to investigate.

But really, we don't need another iNetBet bashing fest. Let's opt for constructive criticism, thanks!

Please tell me when constructive critism has worked in the past to correct their support issues, I am all ears.

PS: There is no disrespect here, I am just searching for the truth so players may have a better gaming experience than me.

 

[maxd]

Seriously Max, trollish bashing, how is this, no sense flexing the censorship muscle ....

You have claimed that the casino is "untouchable" on these forums. An accusation like that casts a dark shadow on the management and moderation of those forums. Since it obviously is not true -- again I say look at all the threads that clearly show the contrary -- then you are apparently simply trying to discredit the site for your own purposes. That is the very definition of a troll and trolls get booted per the Forum Rules, as they should. It's not censorship to do so, it's responsible and necessary forum management.

 

[me_and_ed]

You have claimed that the casino is "untouchable" on these forums. An accusation like that casts a dark shadow on the management and moderation of those forums. Since it obviously is not true -- again I say look at all the threads that clearly show the contrary -- then you are apparently simply trying to discredit the site for your own purposes. That is the very definition of a troll and trolls get booted per the Forum Rules, as they should. It's not censorship to do so, it's responsible and necessary forum management.

I am shocked that you cannot see the truth in what I have posted, how can you miscontrue this for trollish behavior, I dont think what I have posted warrants your "damage control", and what on earth would be my motives for discrediting the forum or its management.

Lets look at the root of the issue here, how many times have you seen communication issue posts with Inet? How many changes have you seen them make? How many times have you rogued or put a warning against a casino for lack of communication, why should this be any different for the player. I personally believe as well would like to think by responses over the years in this forum that Inet has not been held accountable for thier actions when sanctions have been made against others, all I am doing here is stating the obvious.

I am sorry my words have offended, however my stance remains steadfast.

 

[maxd]

... how many times have you seen communication issue posts with Inet?

Please see my previous post:

... there is a difference between personal style and negligence. What I'm saying is that the vast majority of the iNetBet cases aired here on the forums seem to boil down to being instances of the former -- complaints about their Customer Service style -- and not the latter, namely documented CS negligence. Assuming that's true then it's not an Accreditation issue. On the other hand if it is negligence then were's the proof, and why haven't we seen it show up in the PABs? To date there is no PAB evidence to support such a claim.

Forum grumbles are not the same as actionable offences. I think you are having trouble seeing the difference.

I am sorry my words have offended, however my stance remains steadfast.

Flacid apology aside claims such as you've made concerning the site and its management are highly offensive and damaging. Since you see no reason to retract I see no reason to stand down from my accusation that you're being a troll and should be dealt with accordingly.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Max, Bryan MAKES the accreditation rules. There is nothing to prevent him from adding a term stateing that all accredited casinos must have live chat. It is not telling casinos what to do. If it IS, then in essence every other form or accreditation requirement must ALSO be telling casinos what they must do should they wish to stay on the accredited list. I believe having any form of rules for accreditation IS in essence telling casinos what they must abide by. Right? And rightly so, thats the whole point of having a great forum like this that tries to bring some order and regulation to the casino industry and those who wish to participate in it.

Also the term

"Must be able to take care of any player issue swiftly and professionally".

Is broken by Inetbet continously. I dont know about you Max but having to wait 2 or 3 hours and sometimes longer for someone to get back to you (if at all) is NOT swift nor is it proffessional in my opinion.

Inet is living in an age gone by and quite frankly im actually amazed they have continued on in business as long as they have done. They lost my business because of the silly no live chat rule and i daresay a great number of other peoples too. Why they cant see that their damaging themselves is unreal.

 

[me_and_ed]

Please see my previous post:


Forum grumbles are not the same as actionable offences. I think you are having trouble seeing the difference.



Flacid apology aside claims such as you've made concerning the site and its management are highly offensive and damaging. Since you see no reason to retract I see no reason to stand down from my accusation that you're being a troll and should be dealt with accordingly.

My apology is genuine, I take offence to your comment, seems we have 2 different issues here, my issue is a genuine documented problem with a casino, yours has now become personal, regardless of how you feel about me the issue stands, you promote and endorse a casino that does not follow the standard that has been set by other accredited ones.

 

[maxd]

Max, Bryan MAKES the accreditation rules. There is nothing to prevent him from adding a term stateing that all accredited casinos must have live chat.

I would say there is a very good reason preventing him from doing so: a desire not to interfere in a casino's manner of doing its business. Again, the requirement is that they deal with player issues, be it by email, chat, or candy-gram if they so choose.

I believe having any form of rules for accreditation IS in essence telling casinos what they must abide by. Right?

No, not "right". The Accred rules as I read them are codes of conduct, the basic requirements for being eligible for Accreditation. That's not telling anyone anything, that's saying "if you want to be included these are the grounds on which you will be considered". Maybe it's a chicken-and-egg thing but the point AFAIC is that we're not in the business of dictating anything to anyone. We are in the business of requireing certain levels of conduct be met in order to be Accred: handling player issues is one of those requirements, the technology used is not.

And no, I don't think responding within a few hours is necessary. Nice if they do, but hardly necessary. Again this gets down to personal tastes, IMHO. If you require them to respond in less than three hours then by all means do take your business to casinos that are willing and able to do that. Will a casino be stripped of their Accred status if they don't? I seriously doubt it. Most of the casinos I deal with take days to respond, sometimes longer if things are getting complicated. Admittedly my circumstances are different from yours but the point is that acceptable speed of response is your call to make, it's a personal thing. For me (in the work I do) it's days not hours.

 

[me_and_ed]

I would say there is a very good reason preventing him from doing so: a desire not to interfere in a casino's manner of doing it's business. Again, the requirement is that they deal with player issues, be it by email, chat, or candy-gram if they so choose.



No, not "right". The Accred rules as I read them are codes of conduct, the basic requirements for being eligible for Accreditation. That's not telling anyone anything, that's saying "if you want to be included these are the grounds on which you will be considered". Maybe it's a chicken-and-egg thing but the point AFAIC is that we're not in the business of dictating anything to anyone. We are in the business of requireing certain levels of conduct be met in order to be Accred: handling player issues is one of those requirements, the technology used is not.

And no, I don't think responding within a few hours is necessary. Nice if they do, but hardly necessary. Again this gets down to personal tastes, IMHO. If you require them to respond in less than three hours then by all means do take your business to casinos that are willing and able to do that. Will a casino be stripped of their Accred status if they don't? I seriously doubt it. Most of the casinos I deal with take days to respond, sometimes longer if things are getting complicated. Admittedly my circumstances are different from yours but the point is that acceptable speed of response is your call to make, it's a personal thing. For me (in the work I do) it's days not hours.

Its not the 3 hours thats the issue, its the lack of that is, I know they get the emails, this is unnaceptable, I dont care if they dont want to give out an advertised bonus, at least answer me to tell me so, it is insulting putting hard earned money into a casino and getting puposely ignored.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Thats fair enough Max. I understand where your coming from and I see your point. We do differ however on whats `acceptable` for a timely response. The correct answer however you wish to view it is immediately. 32Red hasent reached its status of being the best casino there ever was by following the idealogy of casinos like Inetbet. However its a turn about argument as every side has their own view points and i dont wish this to become an embroiled battle. Suffice it to say, your right saying that if your not happy with a casino who doesnt offer live chat to move on to one who does. This is a long term battle that in my opinion inet is going to ultimately lose.

 

[Seventh777]

AFAIC being accredited is one thing, and being top of the pile is another, those that constantly win a form of casino of the year do so by having the best of the best customer support ethics in place, and ofc all the other aspects of being accredited.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

AFAIC being accredited is one thing, and being top of the pile is another, those that constantly win a form of casino of the year do so by having the best of the best customer support ethics in place, and ofc all the other aspects of being accredited.

lol True but then surely there should be an award out of all the accredited for whos the worst? Nominations anyone?

 

[Seventh777]

lol True but then surely there should be an award out of all the accredited for whos the worst? Nominations anyone?

Lol, i`m not going down that road - slight derail - if you think Inet have bad CS, you should try Neteller over a holiday period when a deposit/withdrawal has borked, here`s the side I just cannot get my head around......

1). Neteller are a merchant banking franchise.

2). All they deal in is cash.

3). They have 24/7/365 CS.

4). All these are therefore employed/trained in cash related problems.

Then, why the hell when you get in touch with them, with an obviously related cash problem, do they reliably inform you that your problem cannot be rectified until the grown-ups return from holiday?.

1). Why are cash related CS employees there for if they cannot resolve cash related problems.

2). Just exactly what other problems are a cash orientated business expecting to get?.

 

[Antonia1953]

The OP has stated that he has not received any response and that is clearly, not acceptable.

 

[me_and_ed]

I have said my piece on this matter, Max and I share a very different opinion that I do not believe will ever be agreed upon. Unfortunately I do not think my words will have any impact on the situation.

Thank you all for your input, I do appreciate it.

 

[Jasminebed]

I'm currently having email communication problems with Inetbet. I'd like to think they are not ignoring me, as well as a forum they are a sponsor at.

First communication was Jan 28, I sent a followup Jan 31, and another from a different email address on Feb 4th. I've now asked for help from the other forum (yesterday), but haven't yet had a response.

I don't think this is timely at all. It's quite a routine issue.

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

I had a problem here towards the end of last year.I have a few problems getting verified due to having no ID and stupidly played here before getting verified.

Sent the fax back form back with letters with my address at the top along with 1 or 2 other things I was told would be ok,a few times they "weren't received",so I resent them then there'd be some other issue.

Sometimes I was worried they wouldn't receive my answer to something they asked me and I would send an email to actually ask if they had received my last reply!

They even came up with the excuse the fax back form has been printed/filled in over 2 sheets-this needs redoing (I only had chance to do this once as I don't have access to a printer),when common sense could prevail and a stapler could attach the 2 sheets thus there being no issue.

Then 1 guy from support told me they would do that and that would be fine,then a rather sarcastic lady (Jane I think her name was) told me it wasn't fine and asked me to resend it.

Then due to my brother having an account-under the same household,they took around $80 of off me and just refunded my deposit-which I assumed I couldn't withdraw as I couldn't get verified!

I was intending to go through with a pab but there had been that many excuses I really didn't have a hope in hell-plus I couldn't be bothered arguing the toss over $100 over xmas.

So it was at this point I emailed for my account to be closed,to which I received the reply from 'Jane' "done".

 

[slotjunkie]

I would say there is a very good reason preventing him from doing so: a desire not to interfere in a casino's manner of doing it's business. Again, the requirement is that they deal with player issues, be it by email, chat, or candy-gram if they so choose.



No, not "right". The Accred rules as I read them are codes of conduct, the basic requirements for being eligible for Accreditation. That's not telling anyone anything, that's saying "if you want to be included these are the grounds on which you will be considered". Maybe it's a chicken-and-egg thing but the point AFAIC is that we're not in the business of dictating anything to anyone. We are in the business of requireing certain levels of conduct be met in order to be Accred: handling player issues is one of those requirements, the technology used is not.

And no, I don't think responding within a few hours is necessary. Nice if they do, but hardly necessary. Again this gets down to personal tastes, IMHO. If you require them to respond in less than three hours then by all means do take your business to casinos that are willing and able to do that. Will a casino be stripped of their Accred status if they don't? I seriously doubt it. Most of the casinos I deal with take days to respond, sometimes longer if things are getting complicated. Admittedly my circumstances are different from yours but the point is that acceptable speed of response is your call to make, it's a personal thing. For me (in the work I do) it's days not hours.

very good reason preventing him from doing so: a desire not to interfere in a casino's manner of doing it's business.

I don't see it as an interference with (1) casinos business practice, they can practice the way they want to they just wouldn't be accredited here. Furthermore, I see it as a help to iNet as it would/could increase player satisfaction and retention, which in turn would also help Bryan if he gets a piece of the pie.

the requirement is that they deal with player issues, be it by email, chat, or candy-gram if they so choose.


...In a timely and professional manner!
Customer service is supposed to be just that, to service the customer. If it was a face to face customer and they were left at the counter for 2-3+ hours or left on the phone for 2-3+ hours, would that be acceptable? NO
It should be the same standards in the virtual gaming customer service world.

I don't think responding within a few hours is necessary.

It is if they don't want to continue to lose players. They are successful, but how much more could they be if they would listen to the simple request of the people who actually put a roof over their head and food on their table?...

 

[vinylweatherman]

The problem seems to be down to the definition of what is a reasonable time. iNetBet are unique in that they have no "live" option that would allow for a conversation to take place, where "reasonable time" would be the time spent on hold on the phone or chat queue. Most people consider more than a few minutes unreasonable. The next criteria are related to how efficiently the issue has been dealt with. The problem with some of the iNetBet complaints is that it is like a conversation with someone on Mars, with only one item being coped with by CS. Naturally, a different style is needed when email is used, but what happens seems to be that the CS agent deals with the first issue in the email, and ignores any other issues after this. The reason players bundle more than one issue in an email should be obvious, they KNOW that it is a delayed medium of communication, so want everything dealt with in one exchange, rather than a number of separate exchanges over a period of hours.

For resolving an issue, account has to be taken of whether it is "time critical", such as a problem with a coupon expiring in the next three hours. In such a case, a reasonable time for resolving the issue would be less than the three hours till the coupon expires. Whilst the player might not like the reply, NO reply is not "professional".

Although 2 hours in itself was not too bad, in this case they failed to tell the whole truth to the player, which lead to a repeat of the issue the following Monday. Had they mentioned on the Tuesday that it was a known issue, the player could have avoided the problems on the Monday by either using a different deposit method, or first contacting support for a status update on the problem, and not depositing by the affected means till confirmation had been received that the issues had been solved.

Also, by not keeping players in the loop, CS would have been burdened with a number of players who had encountered the same issue, one which they might have avoided were they told that this particular method was failing, and needing manual correction.

With the current setup, there is no means to "discuss" anything with a CS rep at iNetBet in a live conversation, everything is done by message exchange, which just does not suit the more complex issues where each side may not be quite understanding the other.

iNetBet are certainly losing customers when their systems foul up, and having to replace them with new ones. Many players do not see the problems because they are lucky enough that everything runs smoothly, and they never have to contact CS. These players will consider iNetBet worthy of their status, whereas those that have encountered a string of problems will wonder how on earth they manage to remain accredited despite this.

It seems that after years of complaints about the iNetBet email system, no-one has conducted a detailed investigation and suggested a cause and solution for those players that have issues. If the cause is an ISP, they are NEVER going to admit it, and will lie to their customers in order to pass the blame onto someone else. If their ISP says there are no issues, and so does iNetBet, and the player is certain there is nothing wrojng with his kit, the player is left to choose who they trust the least, and blame them. This often ends up being the online casino, as many players trust that their ISP is more trustworthy, and unlike the casinos, has a regulator looking over their shoulder. Players will trust their own kit simply because they paid good money for it, and have not seen any obvious signs of a general problem. If it is ONLY emails to iNetBet that go astray, they are never going to believe it is a problem with their ISP or PC, because this would surely lead to more widespread problems with emails.

It is a similar issue to the one where there are widespread reports that the RTG software won't install, won't open, or won't log in, often after one of those lobby updates. Some players get the problems, others don't, but most will argue that if it worked before, and the lobby update broke it, the fault lies with the software, not their kit. The best CS can offer in such situations is "uninstall and reinstall", which is a bit like the art of fixing an old TV by repeatedly thumping it till the picture returns. It sometimes works, but does nothing to address the underlying cause of the loss of picture.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Very good post SlotyJunkie

very good reason preventing him from doing so: a desire not to interfere in a casino's manner of doing it's business.

I don't see it as an interference with (1) casinos business practice, they can practice the way they want to they just wouldn't be accredited here. Furthermore, I see it as a help to iNet as it would/could increase player satisfaction and retention, which in turn would also help Bryan if he gets a piece of the pie.

the requirement is that they deal with player issues, be it by email, chat, or candy-gram if they so choose.


...In a timely and professional manner!
Customer service is supposed to be just that, to service the customer. If it was a face to face customer and they were left at the counter for 2-3+ hours or left on the phone for 2-3+ hours, would that be acceptable? NO
It should be the same standards in the virtual gaming customer service world.

I don't think responding within a few hours is necessary.

It is if they don't want to continue to lose players. They are successful, but how much more could they be if they would listen to the simple request of the people who actually put a roof over their head and food on their table?...

 

[shaggy5500]

re

I have to agree, Inetbet is going down the tubes, payouts suck, service not any better but they have big heads there and think they perfect when they arn't falling to the wayside. With so many online casinosto compete with you'd think Emily would get her head out of her proverbial Butt and make some changes but I doubt she will.

 

[me_and_ed]

I have to agree, Inetbet is going down the tubes, payouts suck, service not any better but they have big heads there and think they perfect when they arn't falling to the wayside. With so many online casinosto compete with you'd think Emily would get her head out of her proverbial Butt and make some changes but I doubt she will.

Lets not get personal.

 

[inthedesert]

Inetbet does need to work out this "support" issue. It's costing customers and money.

I have made a personal decision that if a casino doesn't respond to my emails then I won't play there. If you don't have the common courtesy to respond to me then so be it. I have sent numerous emails to Inetbet in the past and have got no response. That being said when they actually respond to the emails I sent last time I will play there again. It's only been over a year so I don't have much hope.

The "ISP problems and email issues" are excuses (BS if you will) and people are tired of hearing it. If an accredited casino has to make excuses for it's business then it's a serious red flag to me. It makes you wonder what is going on in the backend of the business. If you payout in a timely fashion that's great and I am happy. If you can't respond to an email, provide live chat, or offer a phone line for your customers that makes me wonder what's going on behind the scenes. Something isn't right IMO.

I have sent emails that have been responded to. Most have not though. I am thinking these people are on a shift or something. They come into a house at a certain time and respond to emails and some get a fast response others get nothing. If your responding to an email many hours later the person will be pissed, or have gone elsewhere by then so it's easier to just delete. The last email I sent (that was responded to) I got a five word response back on. Not very professional.

They don't offer live chat for a reason. It has nothing to do with freeloaders, beggars, or whatever excuse is thrown. As someone put in another thread you just tag your live chat window with "no free chips can be given via live chat" and that is solved. The real reason is because live chat (usually) requires more than one person - who has to be there 24 hours a day. It's a cost factor. Is it they don't have the money? Or they don't want to spend the money? People tend to speculate in matters like this.

This thread will end up going into rough seas and getting out of control. These threads about Inetbet and support usually do. My advice is if people don't like the options then don't play there. You work hard for your money and you have many choices to play online. Inetbet can make all the excuses about support they want but if you continue to deposit here your only allowing them to continue to get away with offering sub-par service.

 

[secret2]

I recently had a concern about the security of my account with Inetbet, so I emailed them and they confirmed that it was ok and came from my ISP BUT..they said they would CALL me, if I had a problem with this, still.

My concern was not a security issue, it was a delay on my Netspend card ...took about 5 days to clear and show in my account.

I should have taken them up with their 'call' to me....although when I gave them my updated cell number, they did not call.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Inetbet does need to work out this "support" issue. It's costing customers and money.

I have made a personal decision that if a casino doesn't respond to my emails then I won't play there. If you don't have the common courtesy to respond to me then so be it. I have sent numerous emails to Inetbet in the past and have got no response. That being said when they actually respond to the emails I sent last time I will play there again. It's only been over a year so I don't have much hope.

The "ISP problems and email issues" are excuses (BS if you will) and people are tired of hearing it. If an accredited casino has to make excuses for it's business then it's a serious red flag to me. It makes you wonder what is going on in the backend of the business. If you payout in a timely fashion that's great and I am happy. If you can't respond to an email, provide live chat, or offer a phone line for your customers that makes me wonder what's going on behind the scenes. Something isn't right IMO.

I have sent emails that have been responded to. Most have not though. I am thinking these people are on a shift or something. They come into a house at a certain time and respond to emails and some get a fast response others get nothing. If your responding to an email many hours later the person will be pissed, or have gone elsewhere by then so it's easier to just delete. The last email I sent (that was responded to) I got a five word response back on. Not very professional.

They don't offer live chat for a reason. It has nothing to do with freeloaders, beggars, or whatever excuse is thrown. As someone put in another thread you just tag your live chat window with "no free chips can be given via live chat" and that is solved. The real reason is because live chat (usually) requires more than one person - who has to be there 24 hours a day. It's a cost factor. Is it they don't have the money? Or they don't want to spend the money? People tend to speculate in matters like this.

This thread will end up going into rough seas and getting out of control. These threads about Inetbet and support usually do. My advice is if people don't like the options then don't play there. You work hard for your money and you have many choices to play online. Inetbet can make all the excuses about support they want but if you continue to deposit here your only allowing them to continue to get away with offering sub-par service.

This illustrates the problem. It is clear that some emails NEVER get dealt with, yet all we hear are blame shifting excuses (it's your ISP, your PC isn't sending them, etc). This might be true some of the time, but what about the other times where players have run tests and found nothing wrong with their emails getting out to other places, and see the problem is only that their emails never reach iNetBet. It is hard to believe that a problem their end could be so very specific that only their emails to iNetBet fail to get through. The more logical conclusion is that there is something at iNetBet's end that causes their emails to fail to make it to the CS desk, or that CS staff fail to read them and reply. The ONLY way to chase up a non-reply is to send another email, but in some cases this chaser also fails to get through.

I doubt a reply after one year will be of any use, so it can be taken as evidence that the issue was ignored if it was one that needed a reply.

Things would be much worse if iNetBet didn't operate forum reps, as many issues related to email problems only get addressed via the rep here, or through CM.

The problems seem to go unchallenged because many players just give up trying and move elsewhere, and do not bother to PAB over such an issue. This means that there are no actual case studies for Max to investigate and find out what went wrong in specific cases. With only tales of woe on the forum, there is no hard evidence that warrants a removal from the accredited status for breaching the customer service standards.

If aggrieved players want action, as well as closing their accounts, they should PAB about the issue that drove them to this so that case studies can be built up to see where the fault lies.

iNetBet are not the only casino to have persistent email problems. My experience is that Jackpot Factory are much worse than iNetBet for "losing" emails from players, but they DO also have phone and chat, so it is not such a problem to chase up an issue that has been ignored when sent as an email.

iNetBet has decided to rely 100% on email, a system that is known to be unreliable as a means of "mission critical" communications. They are setting themselves up for these problems, and inevitably tempers fray and we get another "bash iNetBet" thread, triggered by a poorly handled CS issue that has been allowed to escalate because the player has been unable to get any kind of responce in what he feels is a reasonable timeframe.

 

[inthedesert]

The problems seem to go unchallenged because many players just give up trying and move elsewhere, and do not bother to PAB over such an issue. This means that there are no actual case studies for Max to investigate and find out what went wrong in specific cases. With only tales of woe on the forum, there is no hard evidence that warrants a removal from the accredited status for breaching the customer service standards.

If I have a question about a bonus or something in that regard (simple) then to PAB would be a bit extreme. For anyone to have to PAB to get an answer to an email I also see as extreme. I don't feel it's fair to CM to file a PAB because I can't get a response to an email from a casino. Then CM would be doing the job of the casino.

Inetbet has pointed the blame for it's delayed (or non-existant) responses for a long time. They know the problem is happening. They are aware. It's an ongoing issue. If they cared about their customers they would fix these problems instead of making excuses or avoiding the situation. If Inetbet is accredited or not isn't my decision but the end result to play there is.

iNetBet has decided to rely 100% on email, a system that is known to be unreliable as a means of "mission critical" communications. They are setting themselves up for these problems, and inevitably tempers fray and we get another "bash iNetBet" thread, triggered by a poorly handled CS issue that has been allowed to escalate because the player has been unable to get any kind of responce in what he feels is a reasonable timeframe.

I agree. The issue of "missing emails" will always follow Inetbet until they deal with it head on. Everyone will argue on what "reasonable time frame" is but if you use email as your only support option it should be fast. I think an hour is fair enough for a response time. Especially when your responding with one sentence responses.

 

[footdr]

Try emailing "[email protected]" attn: Emily

also, try emailing through the website by clicking on contact us and filling out the form. I haven't had any problems with responses anytime recently.

I am not saying that particular players may be having the problems they state.

Also, when I have contacted the rep here, I have always had a response to my original emails almost immediately. Strange but true.

 

[silcnlayc]

I will say this in regards to live chat. Whenever there is an issue, it is taken care of 99.9% of the time in less than 30 seconds for me. Sometimes it is a missing deposit (not credited) sometimes I can't log in (casino is down) . I mean it really is a very simple thing to let players know you care enough to give them this peace of mind, I believe. Think of all those unanswered emails that go on and on for hours on end, backed up .....why? When it can be dealt with quickly and efficiently.

Not everyone wants a bonus. Just someone to be there when there is a need for an answer at the moment.

There would be no backlog of players waiting hours to find out that the casino is down or the missing deposit is found or in other cases, the missing bonus can be given within seconds by support in live chat. Doesn't it bother you even a little that you would rather be a casino many want to avoid over this one thing?

Lets do this...we go to a cashiers window in the casino and there is one person behind the window.....she has 50 in line waiting to get help from her....

Now, we say the heck with that and we go down the street and here is another casino...with all 5 windows open, no one waiting in line and we stroll right up and ask our question, then satisfied with the quick service...we hurry to the nearest machine and plop down and start to happily play all within a few seconds....all the while at the other casino, there are now over 75 in line waiting...hmmm..which one would you choose to play at???

It benefits both parties to be communicative I believe. The reasons given is not viable at all for not having live chat...JMO..

.

 

[footdr]

I think we all believe they need live chat.........

I just wonder what there reason is for not wanting to provide it. I would guess that Number 1: they would need to hire more employees
but in response to that I would say you need no more employees to answer a live chat then you do to answer emails but responding to a live chat may take quite sometime if you only have one employee answering both emails and live chat. I think they only have one employee working to answer emails.I could be wrong and if I am perhaps their rep will provide the correct information.

I seriously can't think of another reason as providing live chat surely wouldn't be much of an additional cost, software wise. It is not as if they are providing a Toll free number as the majority of other RTG's provide.

Therefore, as a business person, I would suspect the total reason is that they don't want to spend any additional money to provide players with better customer support.

On the flip side, CS aside, they are one of the fastest payouts that U.S. players have.

Take the good with the bad or don't play there. IMO

 

[Nate]

I signed up with Inetbet a few years ago, like many Casinos, it might take a year or two for me to try them out. I sent documents, never got replies (Yet very other Casino confirmed they received the SAME batch of documents). When the docs eventually reached them, they had some other excuse or requirement so I gave up and closed my account.

Constructive Criticism was the answer in the last thread - Nothing Happened. We will have another 20 threads about this and it will remain the same.

An auto reply system COULD be implemented - It has not. Inet continues to ignore pleas for live help. They will not change their stance.

The reality is, you are beating a Dead Horse and with all due respect to Inet, they are stubborn and won't budge.

Nate

 

[takethemoney]

I can't believe the operators are so inept as to not realize that a player wants immediate response. I can't count the number of times I have gone off and made a deposit elsewhere, where I felt I would not get my questions answered in a timely manner at iNet. When I have time from work to play, my time is like gold, as far as limited gambling time is concerned. I want to play now and I want answers and service now. If I feel I cannot immediately get them, I won't waste my time there, but I will go play elsewhere. IMO, they are only shooting themselves in the foot. Also, it's clear from their most recent and past responses that they simply DO NOT CARE. Rookie move, if you ask me. I'm gonna spend the money, but apparently they have too much of it and don't need mine. We spend money, some of us a lot of it. We may demand service and casinos would be well advised to provide it. Without us players they have nothing. Unfortunately, too many of them have adopted an arrogant attitude and it is almost like they forgot where their fortunes have come from to begin with.

We should be showing them our tail lights, not our deposits.

 

[Nifty29]

An auto reply system with ticket numbers would be a good step forward IMO.

 

[maxd]

An auto reply system with ticket numbers would be a good step forward IMO.

Really?!? I detest those auto-reply systems. Way too often they're just another screen for lazy-ass operators to hide behind.

Just out of curiousity what would you say they contribute to the complaints process?

 

[Nate]

Really?!? I detest those auto-reply systems. Way too often they're just another screen for lazy-ass operators to hide behind.

Many of the complaints against Inetbet are related to people being unsure IF the Casino received the email in the first place. I think its a starting point and will at least let the players know their mail was delivered.

Nate