Fraud in 888play caution on the red neogames..!

[musclemx]

This is the critical part. Several accounts at this particular site would be a clear violation of the terms, whereas one account at a number of sister sites is actively encouraged by their marketing department. In fact, a while ago the parent 888 casino came under fire for opening accounts themesleves for players at sister sites, and then telling them the account was opened, and had "free money" in it just waiting for them. Management saw nothing wrong with this, and they were removed from the accredited section.

This is why they get little sympathy from players when they cry foul because a player is playing at "too many sister sites", which is often encouraged by their own marketing team.

This seems partly the case here, as the OP was still getting "advertisement emails" whilst at the same time the security department was looking into his account because it looked like there was fraud involved.

They returned his deposit, but this is a clear signal of their intent not to pay the winnings.

The question is whether this is multi-accounting at one specific site, or simply a player who has played at a number of sister sites (which is NOT against the terms in most cases, unless a player has received a specific order not to open further accounts at sister sites).

AHMM IS ILOGIC ME ASK IS WHY MORE OF 23 SITES OF SCRACTH AND WIN? WHAT IS THE REASON? AND NO HAVE MULTIPLES ACCOUNTS ONLY 1

[vinylweatherman]

AHMM IS ILOGIC ME ASK IS WHY MORE OF 23 SITES OF SCRACTH AND WIN? WHAT IS THE REASON? AND NO HAVE MULTIPLES ACCOUNTS ONLY 1

Is that one across all 23 sites, or have you joined other sites in this group of 23.

They have 23 sites because they are keen to cross market the others to their players at one. They INTEND that you have one account at as many of these sites as you want. The relationship between them is not made clear. In fact, 888 got caught in a blatant lie some years ago when they claimed Reef Club and 888 were not related in any way. It was strange therefore that every time you left one site, a popup said "try our sister casino Reef Club/888". If you are going to lie, don't be quite so obvious

They have also been caught running a spam campaign, although they claim they now only send emails to players who have registered at one of their sites, which according to their interpretation does not constitute spam.

They are a very large group, but are not particularly trusted because of these incidents of "sharp practice" that keep cropping up.

[musclemx]

it's best to stay away and not play at these sites!

[TheLastCylon]

Is that one across all 23 sites, or have you joined other sites in this group of 23.

They have 23 sites because they are keen to cross market the others to their players at one. They INTEND that you have one account at as many of these sites as you want. The relationship between them is not made clear. In fact, 888 got caught in a blatant lie some years ago when they claimed Reef Club and 888 were not related in any way. It was strange therefore that every time you left one site, a popup said "try our sister casino Reef Club/888". If you are going to lie, don't be quite so obvious

They have also been caught running a spam campaign, although they claim they now only send emails to players who have registered at one of their sites, which according to their interpretation does not constitute spam.

They are a very large group, but are not particularly trusted because of these incidents of "sharp practice" that keep cropping up.

I had read a few stray things about 888 being shady. It's one of the reasons why I didn't bother with them. Do you remember any details?

[musclemx]

I had read a few stray things about 888 being shady. It's one of the reasons why I didn't bother with them. Do you remember any details?

yes but is a joke is site 888play.com

[vinylweatherman]

I had read a few stray things about 888 being shady. It's one of the reasons why I didn't bother with them. Do you remember any details?

Most of the problems are caused by their aggressive cross marketing which contains deceptive advertising. They then invoke "spirit of the bonus" rather than specific terms when players actually take up too many of the invites directly emailed to them by the marketing arm of 888. They also have a large and rapidly expanding number of white labels, and 888 have virtually no control over how they treat players, yet 888 will share their central player registration database with all their white labels so that they can send personal invites to players to try their site out. This means that players end up getting personal invites from almost all the 888 and white label sites, and there is no specific term that says you cannot use these invites. In fact, since 888 claim this is not spam, it is saying that players who receive the offers have been chosen by due process, and are therefore eligible for the offers they receive.

The emails are designed to ensure the player believes they have been properly selected for the offer, and would not have received it if they had any history of claiming too many such offers.

Despite players frequently getting screwed for nothing more than taking up what they have been offered, 888 have not only refused to stop the practice, but have stooped even LOWER by creating accounts on behalf of players, rather than just sending them invites. This may be because their reputation has caused players to ignore the invites because there are so many cases of players taking them up having their winnings, and even deposits, confiscated. They must hope that by creating the accounts themselves, they overcome the barrier that prevents players from registering on the strength of a widely discredited personal invite.

A recent case suggests that they are now even messing around players who actually use an account that 888 have created for them and filled with a little free money. This will be another marketing strategy that ends up getting classed as a "scam", and players staying well clear to avoid having winnings confiscated.

[musclemx]

Most of the problems are caused by their aggressive cross marketing which contains deceptive advertising. They then invoke "spirit of the bonus" rather than specific terms when players actually take up too many of the invites directly emailed to them by the marketing arm of 888. They also have a large and rapidly expanding number of white labels, and 888 have virtually no control over how they treat players, yet 888 will share their central player registration database with all their white labels so that they can send personal invites to players to try their site out. This means that players end up getting personal invites from almost all the 888 and white label sites, and there is no specific term that says you cannot use these invites. In fact, since 888 claim this is not spam, it is saying that players who receive the offers have been chosen by due process, and are therefore eligible for the offers they receive.

The emails are designed to ensure the player believes they have been properly selected for the offer, and would not have received it if they had any history of claiming too many such offers.

Despite players frequently getting screwed for nothing more than taking up what they have been offered, 888 have not only refused to stop the practice, but have stooped even LOWER by creating accounts on behalf of players, rather than just sending them invites. This may be because their reputation has caused players to ignore the invites because there are so many cases of players taking them up having their winnings, and even deposits, confiscated. They must hope that by creating the accounts themselves, they overcome the barrier that prevents players from registering on the strength of a widely discredited personal invite.

A recent case suggests that they are now even messing around players who actually use an account that 888 have created for them and filled with a little free money. This will be another marketing strategy that ends up getting classed as a "scam", and players staying well clear to avoid having winnings confiscated.

yes is casino would put in black list

[Nifty29]

yes is casino would put in black list

We get it OK?

You hate 888. Good for you. It doesn't mean you have to repeat it every chance you get.

Time to change the record.

BTW...why do you have so many problems with casinos? It seems every time you cash out there is an issue with multiple accounts or identity. I guess you must be just unlucky.

[musclemx]

We get it OK?

You hate 888. Good for you. It doesn't mean you have to repeat it every chance you get.

Time to change the record.

BTW...why do you have so many problems with casinos? It seems every time you cash out there is an issue with multiple accounts or identity. I guess you must be just unlucky.

and what is your problem?

[maxd]

@musclemx: please check out our Forum Rules (here). The point being that if all you are going to do here on the forums is criticise 888, or whomever, with nothing but "they suck, don't play" then you are in violation of the Rules:

1.11 - Please do not exploit this board to promote your own personal agenda. If the moderators (and members) feel that you are spamming the board with links or ad copy to your website, harassing members with agenda laden posts, or consistently ragging on a casino that did you wrong, etc., your account may be suspended.

Your opinion is one thing and not a problem. Dozens of posts repeating the same "don't play" message is something else (see above).