Since online casinos are computers and computers can be programmed...

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Real casinos- Real cards you can see in a shoe and can watch the shuffle
Online casinos- You have no way of knowing if cards/outcomes are manipulated

Real casinos- Regulated
Online casinos- Not regulated

Real casinos- I win money with betting strategies
Online casinos- I lose money with SAME betting strategies (since November 2009)

I believe that real casino would try to get away with anything they can but it is hard to manipulate cards or the dice or the roll of the ball in front of people and the regulators. That is MUCH easier to do in an online casino.

For all the talk and voluminous threads on randomness, fairness, blah blah blah of online casinos, I just keep it simple.....Where do I win money? In real casinos, because I can use my strategies without manipulation by the real casinos. If I LOSE money for a period of time (a shoe or two), I know that it is just negative variance because I SEE the cards and the cards are not moving around in the shoe in response to my betting strategy. I can't say that for online casinos because there is no way to know one way or another. So I don't play online casinos anymore. For ME, and I only speak for myself, the fact that I win consistently in real casinos with the same strategies that I lose with in online casinos proves to ME that online casinos (at least US-facing ones) are doing manipulative moves against me. Perhaps because I WAS winning quite a bit that they DID do something about it, just make me lose the bigger bets and claim negative variance. Bullfarts!

[Nifty29]

Real casinos- Real cards you can see in a shoe and can watch the shuffle
Online casinos- You have no way of knowing if cards/outcomes are manipulated

Real casinos- Regulated
Online casinos- Not regulated

Real casinos- I win money with betting strategies
Online casinos- I lose money with SAME betting strategies (since November 2009)

I believe that real casino would try to get away with anything they can but it is hard to manipulate cards or the dice or the roll of the ball in front of people and the regulators. That is MUCH easier to do in an online casino.

For all the talk and voluminous threads on randomness, fairness, blah blah blah of online casinos, I just keep it simple.....Where do I win money? In real casinos, because I can use my strategies without manipulation by the real casinos. If I LOSE money for a period of time (a shoe or two), I know that it is just negative variance because I SEE the cards and the cards are not moving around in the shoe in response to my betting strategy. I can't say that for online casinos because there is no way to know one way or another. So I don't play online casinos anymore. For ME, and I only speak for myself, the fact that I win consistently in real casinos with the same strategies that I lose with in online casinos proves to ME that online casinos (at least US-facing ones) are doing manipulative moves against me. Perhaps because I WAS winning quite a bit that they DID do something about it, just make me lose the bigger bets and claim negative variance. Bullfarts!

So, you're saying that the online casinos let you win big (which you did from memory), and then conspired as a group to defraud you by tweaking the software so that you couldn't win? Sorry but whenever I hear that old "they flipped the lose switch" chestnut I just sigh. Never has any evidence been produced that the major softwares cheat, apart from the Vegas tech VP double up thing years ago but that was ruled to be a coding error and all players were reimbursed.

It's just as easy to lose your shirt at a BM casino than at an online one. The fact that you SAY you win consistently (I'm not sure if that means overall) means you are the exception rather than the rule. Someone posted the casino stats for AC a while back and the payback was WORSE than online, so your particular experience means nothing in the overall scheme of things. If everyone had the same online experience as you I would agree there's an issue, but they don't. Unless you think the casino employs staff to watch individual players and change their RTPs on he fly, in which case its tin foil hat time.

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So, you're saying that the online casinos let you win big (which you did from memory),

No, they were not doing anything....that's the point.

and then conspired as a group to defraud you by tweaking the software so that you couldn't win?

Yes.

Sorry but whenever I hear that old "they flipped the lose switch" chestnut I just sigh. Never has any evidence been produced that the major softwares cheat, apart from the Vegas tech VP double up thing years ago but that was ruled to be a coding error and all players were reimbursed.

Fine. Go ahead and sigh. I'm just saying, real casinos: Win; online casinos: Lose. Why? For reasons stated in previous post.

It's just as easy to lose your shirt at a BM casino than at an online one.

"..as at..." Yes, with employment of other kinds of strategies or lack thereof, it can be just as easy. I'm not debating that point.

The fact that you SAY you win consistently (I'm not sure if that means overall) means you are the exception rather than the rule. Someone posted the casino stats for AC a while back and the payback was WORSE than online, so your particular experience means nothing in the overall scheme of things. If everyone had the same online experience as you I would agree there's an issue, but they don't. Unless you think the casino employs staff to watch individual players and change their RTPs on he fly, in which case its tin foil hat time.

What a minute! We KNOW and can SEE that real casino employees DON'T change RTPs on the fly for blackjack, card games, craps, roulette because it would be damn hard to do that because it would be right in our faces! However, with online casinos we CAN'T see that they don't do this. Because everything is behind a computer screen it is likely that online casinos DO change RTPs and WATCH individual players, which I believe they do and did in my case.

[Nifty29]

No, they were not doing anything....that's the point.



Yes.



Fine. Go ahead and sigh. I'm just saying, real casinos: Win; online casinos: Lose. Why? For reasons stated in previous post.



"..as at..." Yes, with employment of other kinds of strategies or lack thereof, it can be just as easy. I'm not debating that point.



What a minute! We KNOW and can SEE that real casino employees DON'T change RTPs on the fly for blackjack, card games, craps, roulette because it would be damn hard to do that because it would be right in our faces! However, with online casinos we CAN'T see that they don't do this. Because everything is behind a computer screen it is likely that online casinos DO change RTPs and WATCH individual players, which I believe they do and did in my case.

No problem.

Hat is on the way

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