All TopGames Casinos are Down! DDos Attacks!!

[kavaman]

I dont understand how rome could accuse affactive, i mean affactive also has a casino with topgame software. Makes no sense to me.

[Mousey]

Fascinating. I hope we hear how this comes out in the end.

[Jasminebed]

Very very serious accusation to make without proof. Even newspapers when reporting arrests don't make claims of guilt before trials are completed.

My first thought was that if I were to launch a DDOS attack (not that I know how, nor would I), wouldn't I cloak my identity? I see a GWPA member has brought up the subject of IP Spoofing. I guess this way the terrorist could kill two birds with one stone.

If I was Rome, I would leave it the proper authorities to seek and arrest the criminals involved.

[shahran84]

The attacker is definitely very smart BUT if he/she isn't from Affactive, then the attacker is super smart. I'm amazed by the capability of the attacker to
bring the whole topgame server down. It's either topgame server defences not good or the attacker is TOO GOOD. Hope it will be solved as soon as possible,
I missed playing at topgame casinos

[zanzibar]

The attacker is definitely very smart BUT if he/she isn't from Affactive, then the attacker is super smart. I'm amazed by the capability of the attacker to
bring the whole topgame server down. It's either topgame server defences not good or the attacker is TOO GOOD. Hope it will be solved as soon as possible,
I missed playing at topgame casinos

LOL. TopGame is one of the cheapest and least reputable softwares out there. CM could probably bring their server down just by telling all the members here to surf to their website.

[jetset]

There do not appear to be any further developments since last night over at GPWA, which still leaves this issue unresolved and these damaging accusations still standing.

I imagine the next step is either an embarrassed withdrawal of the accusations or lawyers becoming involved.

Intepol and various European police forces have combined to act against this sort of criminality in the past and one has to wonder whether TopGame has reported the matter to their local cops to start the ball rolling.

Kavman makes a good point when he says: "I dont understand how rome could accuse affactive, i mean affactive also has a casino with topgame software. Makes no sense to me." And danielg's latest post indicates that their RTG brand is being impacted by DDoS as well, making the whole issue more intriguing imo.

Finally, just a note that DDoS does not necessarily have to involve the triggering party directly; if you know where to go there are low-lifes who control bot armies and can be hired to launch attacks like this using a variety of concealment technologies.

[Jasminebed]

Well, if they haven't yet, I do hope that Rome Casino gets the authorities involved. And Affactive too, since they are being targeted and besmirched as well.

Jail sentences have been handed out for such attacks, it's the online equivalent of bombing offices.

[jetset]

The ongoing row poses a number of questions that remain unanswered:

* There has been no mention of police reportage or legal injunction by either side, surely something that would have emerged by now?

* Affactive has an operation that uses TopGame software, yet no mention of whether this has been impacted has been made.

* There has been no confirmation from RTG that its Affactive casinos have also been hit as claimed by DanielG

* Most importantly, no hard evidence supporting the TopGame accusations against Affactive has yet been produced

* IP spoofing and other concealment technology can be deployed by "bot armies for hire" criminals, an important consideration before allocating blame

[chayton]

For a DDoS attack to work it has to come from a LOT of different places all at one time, if it's just coming from one place it will slow down but not enough to stop service. If all or most of the incoming were flagged as coming from one place then it seems suspiciously like spoofed or forged IPs. Unless somehow the Affactive server was hacked and their server really is sending all the requests? But you'd expect that would make their server crash and burn also.

[maxd]

AFAIK some of the guys who do DDoS-for-hire are fairly sophisticated, they can have servers spread out all over the place, all over the world. IOW, some of them really know their stuff and are well-prepared to skirt the usual point-of-attack limitations.