Noticed over the past few weeks Bet365 has new UK style slot machines with fixed £1 play and £70 jackpots, made by a company called UIJ, anyone know whether these are random? or if there is any way of forcing these?
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Noticed over the past few weeks Bet365 has new UK style slot machines with fixed £1 play and £70 jackpots, made by a company called UIJ, anyone know whether these are random? or if there is any way of forcing these?
Unfortunatly, doesn't look like they can be played in freeplay, support wouldn't tell me whether they were random or not, and infact, got rather defensive when I pushed for information! I did get a £70 jackpot after only £5, so the mystery deepens!
Not seen these at any other site, which is strange, as they are VERY well made
Which games are they?
I couldn't recognise any by name other than 5liner, but I DID recognise Cops and Robbers along with other Microgaming offerings, so thought this was the MGS version, rather than the £70 version.
Maybe Bet365 are the first site to have them, and they are probably from Barcrest, part of their "Player's heaven" project of a few years back.
I saw the Pink Panther, but it was a standard Vegas style video slot, not the Fruit Machine. Same goes for Cluedo.
It looks like you can ONLY play for real.
Maybe CS don't know much about them, and think you are a "troublemaker" in asking the obvious question as to whether the games are random. To say they are not is the same as admitting they are rigged, so CS might not want to say much in case they make a mistake and it gets all over the internet.
If they are really the £70 versions, they are probably NOT random, but running the same software as the pub versions, which are "compensated" games. Hopefully they would NOT be set to the 72% one tends to get in pubs, but to a more reasonable 88%+ - although even this is pretty poor for an online slot, where most players expect around 95%.
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Its a whole bunch of them on bet365, Cops and Robbers is actually the one found in arcades in the UK, with the feature board to boot, also Mad Money Monsters, Big Dipper, Pinball Lizzard, The Grape Escape, Spellbound, and Toweing Inferno to name a few.
These games are different to the JPM ones, (which I must add have been very kind to me!)
To vinyl,
"If they are really the £70 versions, they are probably NOT random, but running the same software as the pub versions, which are "compensated" games. Hopefully they would NOT be set to the 72% one tends to get in pubs, but to a more reasonable 88%+ - although even this is pretty poor for an online slot, where most players expect around 95%."
Mmmm i would have thought those pub slot machines had a house edge closer to 50% and online slots closer to 90% - are you sure of 95% - I don't recall that % ever being displayed on any Casino's published RMTs?
Regards,
Daz
I'm sure Vinyl will reply too, but my 2c:
UK pub slots have by law to put the RTP on the front of the machine. The lowest I've ever seen is 70% (and used to play them a LOT!)
Most of the £70 ones seem to average around the 82% mark, whereas the £500 Jackpot ones are either 90% or 92%.
Most software companies publish the RTPs of their online slots, for example WagerWorks, Rival, Viaden, NetEnt, Jackpot Party, etc.
Some members here have calculated the RTPs of a few of MGs slots, and we have gleaned data about the RTPs for RTG too.
(I have listed out many of these figures on my SB site)
All those above figures point to an average RTP for online slots at, or very close to 95%.
KK
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Although 70% to 80% is common in pubs, the actual machine has a range of settings that can go all with way up to 88%, possibly more. The online versions are not using the EXACT same "chip" because they have to be integrated into gaming platforms. During the alterations, they will have realised that a 70% online version would be found out pretty quickly, so will have ensured that higher settings were available. I would expect 90% to 95% to be used online, as any lower will be quickly noticed by long term players.
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dazlazz (8th November 2011)
I believe these are the same games I have played in freeplay at unionjackpots.com.
I had an email last year and signed up when thier website was still under construction. For a long time now they have been promising a real play option would be coming soon, however I guess they have had problems with this as I had an email from them about a month ago saying they were joiniing forces with another casino.
Not much info for you all i'm afraid but thier website is still up and running for freeplay only if you want to check it out.
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