How would you feel, if you found out...
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Really pissed! 
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I have no idea how you are equating one with the other - or why.
I guess I would feel annoyed - just like when people are banned from this forum and keep signing back up. That sort of annoyance. You know what I mean?
I have no idea how you are equating one with the other - or why.
I guess I would feel annoyed - just like when people are banned from this forum and keep signing back up. That sort of annoyance. You know what I mean?
Intriguing!
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At this point I would rather it go to a terrorist organization then the US Govt..
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In this day and age.... neither would surprise me.
I have no idea how you are equating one with the other - or why.
I guess I would feel annoyed - just like when people are banned from this forum and keep signing back up. That sort of annoyance. You know what I mean?
Who is it, Meisterman?
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LOL.
I just love these losers that obviously have mental issues that compel them to keep coming back in disguise.
Not only that, they are totally gutless in not saying who they really are.
I just love these losers that obviously have mental issues that compel them to keep coming back in disguise.
Not only that, they are totally gutless in not saying who they really are.
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I was just sayin' what annoys me
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Good luck spending money at a gas station, tattoo shop, corner store, strip clubs and a plethora (wtf is that doing in my vocabulary 
) of other businesses without them being run/owned in the background by terrorist groups, gangs, etc...
I'm guessing this is your way of saying people shouldn't be playing online. If any government wanted to find out if a particular casino is funding terrorist it wouldn't be overly complicated. So instead of hearing "they might be" I prefer to hear "they are and here's the prove."
But I don't know I haven't ate yet, and my head hurts.
To answer your question though. I would just stopped playing there. Wouldn't too much care one way or another. It's too many business owned by some turds I would hate to be knowingly doing business with....I would stay upset....Hmm I know of a gas station most probably buy gas from but
) of other businesses without them being run/owned in the background by terrorist groups, gangs, etc...I'm guessing this is your way of saying people shouldn't be playing online. If any government wanted to find out if a particular casino is funding terrorist it wouldn't be overly complicated. So instead of hearing "they might be" I prefer to hear "they are and here's the prove."
But I don't know I haven't ate yet, and my head hurts.
To answer your question though. I would just stopped playing there. Wouldn't too much care one way or another. It's too many business owned by some turds I would hate to be knowingly doing business with....I would stay upset....Hmm I know of a gas station most probably buy gas from but
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Again,unecessary insult,seeing as I have just been infracted twice (for less than this) i feel rules must apply whether the person you are reffering to is a member or not.
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I would feel very angry if the money I spent online was funding any crime or activity where people would get hurt.
This post did make me chuckle as it reminded me of the report from a local paper that is based in the Isle of Man. It reported that when the servers of poker stars were raided they found the details of bin laden address.
This post did make me chuckle as it reminded me of the report from a local paper that is based in the Isle of Man. It reported that when the servers of poker stars were raided they found the details of bin laden address.
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I think the real question would be, "How would you find out...?"
Personally unless I received that information from a trustworthy, unbiased source that was also confirmed by at LEAST one other trustworthy unbiased source, it wouldn't even be worth speculating about.
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I believe that the legality of the government running a casino (illegally) to catch lawbreakers is questionable; "entrapment" and I personally take a dim view of that, as do many courts.
At any rate, if I had reason to believe that's what was happening, then I would stop immediately.
At the same time, these allegations are familiar, and have been bandied about since at least 2006 as I recall.
I reject all terrorism in all its forms, so that's an automatic no for me (as it likely is for most everybody).
At any rate, if I had reason to believe that's what was happening, then I would stop immediately.
At the same time, these allegations are familiar, and have been bandied about since at least 2006 as I recall.
I reject all terrorism in all its forms, so that's an automatic no for me (as it likely is for most everybody).
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Yes interesting comparison but I'm not going to ask.
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So...you're stalking Nifty now
And youre stalking niftys stalkers...what a society ...
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Well, the DOJ and the FBI think that sort of thing is just hunky dory since they ran a fake payment processing business (Linwood) for ... how long was it? ... 2 years if I recall correctly ... so they could catch these wicked casinos/poker rooms/sportsbooks. (With an eye to catching them falsifying CC codes and laundering money) resulting in Black Friday and Blue Monday. But these confiscations and seizures probably won't ever go to court. It's all a case of 'you did it, we got your money, neener neener'.
As to online casinos being a front for gangs or terrorists... please write to Senator Bachus of Alabama. He should have all the 'proof' and 'information' we need.
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No difference to paying taxes and funding the real terrorists...
Just one aspect the government controlled MSM conveniently forget to broadcast when telling us how much danger we are in.
Go figure.
Just one aspect the government controlled MSM conveniently forget to broadcast when telling us how much danger we are in.
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Go figure.
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For what it's worth; the government eventually get every penny ever spent in any country. Eventually.
Think about it...
(In the UK, for example)
You buy a chair for £100. £20 of that is VAT. The chair sales people get £80. They pay their tax from that. A large chunk of the remaining goes to the supplier/manufacturer (Who pay tax on that, by the way).
The chair sales people will use their profits to pay employees, who pay tax on it.
The manufacturers use their income to pay their employees, who pay tax on that.
Wages are spent on various things (food, fuel, clothes, entertainment and so on), all of which is taxed, and all the change is spent (eventually) on everything else that is taxed.
In short: Each time an amount of money is spent, it is taxed until it is reduced. The reduced amount is spent, and taxed (thus reduced further and further) until the last 10p/c is spent. That, too, is taxed even for 2p/c. And on it goes.
You can't avoid handing over money to government, even after you think you've paid your tax.
Just my 2c.
1.6c after tax, obviously
Think about it...
(In the UK, for example)
You buy a chair for £100. £20 of that is VAT. The chair sales people get £80. They pay their tax from that. A large chunk of the remaining goes to the supplier/manufacturer (Who pay tax on that, by the way).
The chair sales people will use their profits to pay employees, who pay tax on it.
The manufacturers use their income to pay their employees, who pay tax on that.
Wages are spent on various things (food, fuel, clothes, entertainment and so on), all of which is taxed, and all the change is spent (eventually) on everything else that is taxed.
In short: Each time an amount of money is spent, it is taxed until it is reduced. The reduced amount is spent, and taxed (thus reduced further and further) until the last 10p/c is spent. That, too, is taxed even for 2p/c. And on it goes.
You can't avoid handing over money to government, even after you think you've paid your tax.
Just my 2c.
1.6c after tax, obviously
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Hi WB CARTER
Any live example to avoid playing with them ? can you tell us a site?
I am new in casinomeister, is there any page against scam casinos?
Thanks for your support and well done the the Meister team. Amazing tool.
Russianroulette
Any live example to avoid playing with them ? can you tell us a site?
I am new in casinomeister, is there any page against scam casinos?
Thanks for your support and well done the the Meister team. Amazing tool.
Russianroulette
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sometimes i think every time i buy gas and there is a somewhat look like terriorist i figured im giving them money to try to blow us up . these days we dont know if they are good guys or bad guys. seems i lump them altogather . might not be fair to profile but i do it anyway.
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That's all just the media brainwashing you to be fearful of everyone you
see in public... Even your own shadow.
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That's all just the media brainwashing you to be fearful of everyone you
see in public... Even your own shadow.
I'm a little afraid of your avatar.
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go see the movie then, excellent horror movieI'm a little afraid of your avatar.
house of a 1000 corpses
and the 2nd one: the devils rejects
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That's all just the media brainwashing you to be fearful of everyone you
see in public... Even your own shadow.
QFT.
Let`s all try googling a few aspects and see what we can find from *these dark sinister places* that house these nasty Muslim extremist terrorists.....
Well I never, a ferris wheel, who`d have thought these insurgents have areas of fun and amusement for their families and them...
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Omg, Iraq has catwalk models, I thought they hated anything to do with Western ways, our democracy and freedoms.....
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Wtf, they have 5 star hotels and own cars etc, I thought they all lived in caves and rode camels
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But don`t take my word for it, google what the media aptly forgets to show us.
But, credit where credit is due, sometimes the Media does broadcast everything it can, here is the good old B.B.C. broadcasting the 3rd tower to collapse on 9/11/2001, this report was so goddam on the ball they actually broadcast the collapse of WTC7 26 minutes before it actually collapsed....
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The B.B.C. is the largest gatherer of news in the world, it therefore has the biggest archive of recorded news in the world, dating back to the early 1950`s, in all this time it has never lost a recorded footage of one of it`s broadcasts bar one, the footage of their report regarding the premature collapse of WTC7, has been lost, lmfao.
Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear.
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QFT.
Let`s all try googling a few aspects and see what we can find from *these dark sinister places* that house these nasty Muslim extremist terrorists.....
Well I never, a ferris wheel, who`d have thought these insurgents have areas of fun and amusement for their families and them...
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Omg, Iraq has catwalk models, I thought they hated anything to do with Western ways, our democracy and freedoms.....
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Wtf, they have 5 star hotels and own cars etc, I thought they all lived in caves and rode camels
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But don`t take my word for it, google what the media aptly forgets to show us.
But, credit where credit is due, sometimes the Media does broadcast everything it can, here is the good old B.B.C. broadcasting the 3rd tower to collapse on 9/11/2001, this report was so goddam on the ball they actually broadcast the collapse of WTC7 26 minutes before it actually collapsed....
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The B.B.C. is the largest gatherer of news in the world, it therefore has the biggest archive of recorded news in the world, dating back to the early 1950`s, in all this time it has never lost a recorded footage of one of it`s broadcasts bar one, the footage of their report regarding the premature collapse of WTC7, has been lost, lmfao.
Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear.
Oh no.....you're not saying that the major news services had prior warning that the 9/11 attacks were going to happen are you?
If not, I don't exactly see what you're getting at..?? I mean, how could the building collapse 26 minutes on the BBC before it actually did in real life? Do we maybe think the reporter got it wrong and what he was describing was not the WTC7 collapse?
Honestly, I haven't seen any evidence that even partially proves that 9/11 was anything else but a surprise attack by muslim nutcases on innocent civilians. It just is not possible for a conspiracy on that scale to succeed, let alone be kept secret afterwards by the thousands of people that would have been involved. IMO it is twilight zone stuff.
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Where did I state that?, I just proved conclusively why not to believe the MSM, when their report went live, it was false, plain and simple.
Let`s break this down, the B.B.C. reported the collapse of WTC7 in explicit detail 26 minutes prior to it`s collapse. Here is how a news bulletin works, the source has to be authenticated and proved by the news editor before it is relayed to the news anchor via the autoque, so who verified this prior to it`s release.
The real cause of concern here is not producing evidence that this attack was not caused by muslims, but, producing evidence that it was, good luck with that, the F.B.I`s most wanted website for 9/11 has not even indicted Bin Laden for 9/11 due to the fact there is no real evidence to support his involvement.
Twilight zone hey
, as you are a staunch believer in what you were told happened that day and people who don`t believe it dwell in the twilight zone, you will have no trouble debunking the following videos armed with the *irrefutable evidence* available that makes you 100% certain that muslim fanatics done this......An easy one to start with, firstly, a little research, find out what temperature aviation fuel burns at and what heat is needed to melt steel. Here is John Gross the lead structural engineer of NIST (the agency that was in charge of creating reports for the 9/11 commission report).....
David Chandler a member of AE for 9/11 truth I cordially invite you to explain what he is describing is false....
And the last one, here there are many aspects of 9/11 that disprove the official story, I once again ask you (and this should be fairly easy for you none twilight zoners to do) to debunk/disprove it......
I will eagerly await your reply and of course the sources of why you believe what you believe.
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I watched your last video (specifically the last few minutes). I'm not sure if I'm pissed off at you or saddened. I'm forced to see the evil in man on what feels like a weekly basis, as that is the nature of my job. To be told that what I'm seeing is actually a conspiracy placed in motion by our nations leaders and not those I'm fighting.....Not to be all dramatic but I must admit it's disheartening.
I normally watch things that involve those who protect our nation (oversees or on our soil) with great interest. Everything I see tells me we are fighting a losing battle to protect a people who neither wants it, and in so many cases don't deserve it. I fight to keep my sanity on a daily basis. I'm drugged, seeing a psychiatrist, and psychotherapist. Inside of all this numbness I still feel maybe there is a point to it all. When I seemly get closer to the fact that my life might have value if in the end I was able to protect a life that gave something back to the world. Something that is actually needed. Not the hate that I've been dished out and put back in 10 fold but something that makes everything better. Then I read commits and stories by people like you. Who would blame our nations problems on people like me. And it pisses me off. I would apologize for my ramblings in this post but truthfully I don't think you're worth it.
I lost myself in this site because it gave me something to new to focus on. It kept my mind feeling "normal". Even gave me something to look forward to. The recent political threads have stirred up so many emotions inside of me.....I don't know no, I guess I'm just typing now. Whatever!
I watched your last video (specifically the last few minutes). I'm not sure if I'm pissed off at you or saddened. I'm forced to see the evil in man on what feels like a weekly basis, as that is the nature of my job. To be told that what I'm seeing is actually a conspiracy placed in motion by our nations leaders and not those I'm fighting.....Not to be all dramatic but I must admit it's disheartening.
I normally watch things that involve those who protect our nation (oversees or on our soil) with great interest. Everything I see tells me we are fighting a losing battle to protect a people who neither wants it, and in so many cases don't deserve it. I fight to keep my sanity on a daily basis. I'm drugged, seeing a psychiatrist, and psychotherapist. Inside of all this numbness I still feel maybe there is a point to it all. When I seemly get closer to the fact that my life might have value if in the end I was able to protect a life that gave something back to the world. Something that is actually needed. Not the hate that I've been dished out and put back in 10 fold but something that makes everything better. Then I read commits and stories by people like you. Who would blame our nations problems on people like me. And it pisses me off. I would apologize for my ramblings in this post but truthfully I don't think you're worth it.
I lost myself in this site because it gave me something to new to focus on. It kept my mind feeling "normal". Even gave me something to look forward to. The recent political threads have stirred up so many emotions inside of me.....I don't know no, I guess I'm just typing now. Whatever!
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The problem is that, regardless of what evidence is or isn't presented, the conspiracy theorist will refute it with the rantings of some whack-job who swears that his version is the truth (notwithstanding that every other expert says otherwise)
We could make this a fifty page thread with "he said she said" and opposing sets of data and instructional videos showing everything from how steel melts to the effect on the fire of several thousand reams of copy paper lying around the offices......and at the end of the day nobody will think any differently, so it is totally pointless.
Nothing in any of those videos proves that the towers were not brought down by Muslim terrorists.
I can tell you one thing - if I thought that my government had slaughtered their own citizens, which can be the only other way it happened, I would be on the first plane out.....and I assume you aren't.
So, if you believe it was a giant conspiracy, what are YOU doing about it, besides posting on an internet forum?
We could make this a fifty page thread with "he said she said" and opposing sets of data and instructional videos showing everything from how steel melts to the effect on the fire of several thousand reams of copy paper lying around the offices......and at the end of the day nobody will think any differently, so it is totally pointless.
Nothing in any of those videos proves that the towers were not brought down by Muslim terrorists.
I can tell you one thing - if I thought that my government had slaughtered their own citizens, which can be the only other way it happened, I would be on the first plane out.....and I assume you aren't.
So, if you believe it was a giant conspiracy, what are YOU doing about it, besides posting on an internet forum?
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This is some funny #### if stay awake till the end
All hail HAARP
oops wrong vid... no funny end,,, one moment will find right one, aw they removed it.. at the end they went mental saying the planet niburu would enter our solar system and we would be ruled by the evil alien overlords.
anywho here's another one
too serious, so here's something to make up for it
All hail HAARP
oops wrong vid... no funny end,,, one moment will find right one, aw they removed it.. at the end they went mental saying the planet niburu would enter our solar system and we would be ruled by the evil alien overlords.
anywho here's another one
too serious, so here's something to make up for it
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Before I make what will be my last post regarding this matter, a little story, around about 6-7 years ago I had a heated debate with a good friend of mine in the local pub regarding both 9/11 and 7/7/2005 (London), I was a staunch believer in what I was fed by the PTB and MSM and tbh had never felt the need to research into both of these events until he told me one gigantic coincidence regarding them.......
9/11/2001 The American government working along side with the military and counter-terrorist units were staging a mock battle, depicting four terrorist cells hijacking commercial airliners and flying them into four buildings of importance including the twin towers and the Pentagon, as they were doing this it happened in real life.
7/7/2005 The English government working along side counter-terrorist units and security squads were staging a mock battle centred around London train stations, depicting four terrorist cells as suicide bombers, as they were doing this it happened in real life.
With the above in mind I started researching, the deeper I got the more sickened I felt inside, I researched what I thought were uncovered areas including the lack of rooftop rescues and why, I stumbled upon a rescue helicopter pilot, here`s his story.....
On Sept. 11, a rescue from the north tower would have been difficult but possible, Mr. Semendinger and other veteran helicopter-rescue pilots say. The first building hit by a hijacked plane, at 8:48 a.m., the north tower was the second to collapse, one hour and 45 minutes later. Records of calls to 911 operators, first reported by the New York Daily News, show that people on the top floors were seeking help at least until 10:12 a.m., one hour and 24 minutes after the strike. With fire raging on the floors below them, they had no hope of walking down to safety.
Whether even a few of those lives could have been saved by a roof rescue isn't clear. Climbing staircases rapidly filling with smoke could have been tough. The plane's impact might have knocked stairway doors out of alignment, making them impassible, regardless of whether they were locked. The intense smoke and forest of rooftop antennas made landing a helicopter impossible. Rescuers also could have had trouble if a crowd of workers turned into a desperate mob, competing to get off the roof.
But Mr. Semendinger says the wind that morning did leave a corner of the tower relatively clear of smoke, almost until the building collapsed. Using a hoist with folding seats, rescuers could have saved as many as a few dozen people, he estimates.
Feel free to look into this aspect and discover that the only fire escape exits to the roof were locked by a central locking system that was controlled by the main security system located around the 26th storey in WTC2 the south tower, this was apparently damaged by the impact of the 1st jet into WTC1 the north tower rendering it inoperable, thus preventing anyone escaping to the roof, dead men tell no tales, let`s see how one such case was treated by the MSM after he mentioned an internal explosion which of course completely differs from the official story....
As soon as he mentions the core of the building was blown out and the windows were blown out you hear a deafly silence, draw your own conclusions...
Many people told of explosions that day including 103 1st responders whose testimonies totalled over 20,000 pages and are archived at the New York daily times, read them.
With explosions in mind I set about researching this aspect, here I stumbled upon irrefutable evidence, seismographic recordings preceding the times of both impacts, one was 17 seconds premature, the other was 14 seconds, as we all know that any business, corporation, government agencies that use time stamps in their recorded data all synchronize their time keeper via the UTC, by far the most accurate time keeper in the world, so what caused these two spikes of seismographic activity just prior to the two impacts?
So here we have two instances of Richter scale activity channelled to the earth via two towers built to withstand hurricanes, plane impacts and absorb huge amounts of energy, from impacts around 1000 feet above ground level 14 and 17 seconds prematurely, it is a well known fact amongst the earthquake recording hierarchy that a plane crash no matter what circumstances would not create enough energy to trigger seismographic activity, the other two plane crashes that day in Shanksville and over at the Pentagon enforce this aspect 100%, with this in mind, read this man`s account, after all he was right there in the thick of it, he tells tales of explosions an the basements prior to impacts and seismographic data proves it.
[video=google;8536008651248732897]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8536008651248732897[/video]
Greed and power, if this was a pre-planned false flag event then surely along the way somewhere there had to be some easy cash to make yes?, put options are the reverse of a normal stock, ie you buy these with the sole purpose that they will lose value, the CIA constantly monitor the stock market looking for adverse stock movements, just a few days prior to 9/11 there were significant anomalies clearly depicting erratic rises in put options on three separate companies, these companies were United American Airlines, American Airlines and the insurance company that insured them (anyone see a huge clue here?)...
Millions of dollars was made that day and a huge part of it has never been claimed, I spent ages looking for a lead on at least one of the people whom did cash in their stocks and finally found this..........
John McCain is a United States senator.
And finally, what better proof that 9/11 was one huge lie than the president himself caught lying whilst recorded speaking to a live audience, facts....
1). There is to this day only one piece of video captured footage showing the 1st impact of WTC1, and that is the film recorded by the Naudet brothers, and this was not released to the world until 9/12/2001, the day after.
2). It is well documented that Bush was told of the 2nd impact WTC2 whilst reading a book to children by his chief of staff Andrew Card.
3). The area in which Bush was waiting in the school corridors just prior to his reading session had no T.V. and never has had a T.V. in that area.
If any of you research this aspect further and come to the conclusion that he may have watched the 1st impact via satellite in his presidential limousine, you will indeed discover that the satellite was used that day, I have letters addressed to the people whom did investigate this matter and tried to find out what he was watching curtsey of the Freedom of Information Act.
Well that`s it, I have now giving inconclusive evidence of unaccountable and completely ignored, overlooked explosions, 9/11 insider trading with someone very closely linked to Bush, and Bush lying, i`m still awaiting for any evidence proving muslims done 9/11.
9/11/2001 The American government working along side with the military and counter-terrorist units were staging a mock battle, depicting four terrorist cells hijacking commercial airliners and flying them into four buildings of importance including the twin towers and the Pentagon, as they were doing this it happened in real life.
7/7/2005 The English government working along side counter-terrorist units and security squads were staging a mock battle centred around London train stations, depicting four terrorist cells as suicide bombers, as they were doing this it happened in real life.
With the above in mind I started researching, the deeper I got the more sickened I felt inside, I researched what I thought were uncovered areas including the lack of rooftop rescues and why, I stumbled upon a rescue helicopter pilot, here`s his story.....
On Sept. 11, a rescue from the north tower would have been difficult but possible, Mr. Semendinger and other veteran helicopter-rescue pilots say. The first building hit by a hijacked plane, at 8:48 a.m., the north tower was the second to collapse, one hour and 45 minutes later. Records of calls to 911 operators, first reported by the New York Daily News, show that people on the top floors were seeking help at least until 10:12 a.m., one hour and 24 minutes after the strike. With fire raging on the floors below them, they had no hope of walking down to safety.
Whether even a few of those lives could have been saved by a roof rescue isn't clear. Climbing staircases rapidly filling with smoke could have been tough. The plane's impact might have knocked stairway doors out of alignment, making them impassible, regardless of whether they were locked. The intense smoke and forest of rooftop antennas made landing a helicopter impossible. Rescuers also could have had trouble if a crowd of workers turned into a desperate mob, competing to get off the roof.
But Mr. Semendinger says the wind that morning did leave a corner of the tower relatively clear of smoke, almost until the building collapsed. Using a hoist with folding seats, rescuers could have saved as many as a few dozen people, he estimates.
Feel free to look into this aspect and discover that the only fire escape exits to the roof were locked by a central locking system that was controlled by the main security system located around the 26th storey in WTC2 the south tower, this was apparently damaged by the impact of the 1st jet into WTC1 the north tower rendering it inoperable, thus preventing anyone escaping to the roof, dead men tell no tales, let`s see how one such case was treated by the MSM after he mentioned an internal explosion which of course completely differs from the official story....
As soon as he mentions the core of the building was blown out and the windows were blown out you hear a deafly silence, draw your own conclusions...
Many people told of explosions that day including 103 1st responders whose testimonies totalled over 20,000 pages and are archived at the New York daily times, read them.
With explosions in mind I set about researching this aspect, here I stumbled upon irrefutable evidence, seismographic recordings preceding the times of both impacts, one was 17 seconds premature, the other was 14 seconds, as we all know that any business, corporation, government agencies that use time stamps in their recorded data all synchronize their time keeper via the UTC, by far the most accurate time keeper in the world, so what caused these two spikes of seismographic activity just prior to the two impacts?
So here we have two instances of Richter scale activity channelled to the earth via two towers built to withstand hurricanes, plane impacts and absorb huge amounts of energy, from impacts around 1000 feet above ground level 14 and 17 seconds prematurely, it is a well known fact amongst the earthquake recording hierarchy that a plane crash no matter what circumstances would not create enough energy to trigger seismographic activity, the other two plane crashes that day in Shanksville and over at the Pentagon enforce this aspect 100%, with this in mind, read this man`s account, after all he was right there in the thick of it, he tells tales of explosions an the basements prior to impacts and seismographic data proves it.
[video=google;8536008651248732897]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8536008651248732897[/video]
Greed and power, if this was a pre-planned false flag event then surely along the way somewhere there had to be some easy cash to make yes?, put options are the reverse of a normal stock, ie you buy these with the sole purpose that they will lose value, the CIA constantly monitor the stock market looking for adverse stock movements, just a few days prior to 9/11 there were significant anomalies clearly depicting erratic rises in put options on three separate companies, these companies were United American Airlines, American Airlines and the insurance company that insured them (anyone see a huge clue here?)...
Millions of dollars was made that day and a huge part of it has never been claimed, I spent ages looking for a lead on at least one of the people whom did cash in their stocks and finally found this..........
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John McCain is a United States senator.
And finally, what better proof that 9/11 was one huge lie than the president himself caught lying whilst recorded speaking to a live audience, facts....
1). There is to this day only one piece of video captured footage showing the 1st impact of WTC1, and that is the film recorded by the Naudet brothers, and this was not released to the world until 9/12/2001, the day after.
2). It is well documented that Bush was told of the 2nd impact WTC2 whilst reading a book to children by his chief of staff Andrew Card.
3). The area in which Bush was waiting in the school corridors just prior to his reading session had no T.V. and never has had a T.V. in that area.
If any of you research this aspect further and come to the conclusion that he may have watched the 1st impact via satellite in his presidential limousine, you will indeed discover that the satellite was used that day, I have letters addressed to the people whom did investigate this matter and tried to find out what he was watching curtsey of the Freedom of Information Act.
Well that`s it, I have now giving inconclusive evidence of unaccountable and completely ignored, overlooked explosions, 9/11 insider trading with someone very closely linked to Bush, and Bush lying, i`m still awaiting for any evidence proving muslims done 9/11.
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In this case the experts are NIST whom after spending several years researching can still not account for how the buildings collapsed, and can be seen clearly overlooking a major fact of the collapse...Melted steel, how can they? aviation fuel burns around a thousand degrees lower than the heat needed to melt it, now, we whack jobs look at this aspect and think `Why are they ignoring this?`, and rather try and explain the freefall timed collapse of WTC7 think it better just to completely ignore it in the 9/11 commission report, yep I can clearly see why people whom question these experts are whack jobs
It is down to the individual on what they think and why, but I think it is only fair that they are shown both sides of the story.
As NATO declared war on Afghanistan after 9/11, I for one would like to see the evidence this war is based on, when I see that several of the so could hijackers are alive and well and living in their respective countries it starts alarm bells ringing.
America has been doing it for years
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Why should I fly out of my country?, I would rather open peoples eyes and bring those who are guilty to justice.The whole 9/11 thing is rapidly growing in America and several 9/11 related movements have started petitions for a new investigation, these include pilots/architects and engineers/veterans for truth, here you will find most of the related groups....
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Uncanny coincidence that all aspects of 9/11 regarding all the different walks of life by those involved, pilots, architects, alphabet agencies, firemen, press, and many more now have a truth movement associated directly with them.
Whilst we are debating 9/11 feel free to do what I have done and post evidence that supports your views on why muslims done it.
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Would anyone care to guesstimate how many people would have to have been involved in this hideous, and now conclusively proven thanks to a man in the pub and some seismic data, conspiracy for it to work?
If you told a secret to 20 people in a room, what are the odds that at least one will tell someone else who will tell someone else etc? We are talking about hundreds if not thousands of people being privy to the plan. The odds of nobody coming forward to spill the beans is almost zero.
Instead of trying to convince someone on a gambling forum, why not run for parliament so you can get to the bottom of it? Or present your findings to the police? Or are the police part of the conspiracy?
Saying that 911 and London were both deliberately staged by the respective governments is just ludicrous and fanciful....and an insult to those who lost their lives and those who risked theirs to save others.
Subscribers to the conspiracy theories are playing right into the Muslim extremists' hands.
If you told a secret to 20 people in a room, what are the odds that at least one will tell someone else who will tell someone else etc? We are talking about hundreds if not thousands of people being privy to the plan. The odds of nobody coming forward to spill the beans is almost zero.
Instead of trying to convince someone on a gambling forum, why not run for parliament so you can get to the bottom of it? Or present your findings to the police? Or are the police part of the conspiracy?
Saying that 911 and London were both deliberately staged by the respective governments is just ludicrous and fanciful....and an insult to those who lost their lives and those who risked theirs to save others.
Subscribers to the conspiracy theories are playing right into the Muslim extremists' hands.
This is not for the weak hearted. But the video below is everything you want to know about 9/11. Including names and so on. Its 2 1/2 hrs worth of very carefully researched documents. There is not 1 dull moment in the film. It's well worth the watch. A+
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For what it's worth; the government eventually get every penny ever spent in any country. Eventually.
Think about it...
(In the UK, for example)
You buy a chair for £100. £20 of that is VAT. The chair sales people get £80. They pay their tax from that. A large chunk of the remaining goes to the supplier/manufacturer (Who pay tax on that, by the way).
The chair sales people will use their profits to pay employees, who pay tax on it.
The manufacturers use their income to pay their employees, who pay tax on that.
Wages are spent on various things (food, fuel, clothes, entertainment and so on), all of which is taxed, and all the change is spent (eventually) on everything else that is taxed.
In short: Each time an amount of money is spent, it is taxed until it is reduced. The reduced amount is spent, and taxed (thus reduced further and further) until the last 10p/c is spent. That, too, is taxed even for 2p/c. And on it goes.
You can't avoid handing over money to government, even after you think you've paid your tax.
Just my 2c.
1.6c after tax, obviously
Ha ha ha! Very very funny. Disputable but too funny to dispute.
