If I owned this place, it would probably be for sale!

[max1mike]

..you know...world police, biggest and greates and all that

anytime you wanna go one on one, US vs. norway, I'll take that bet, we'll kick your ass...except maybe in luge or something.

[rainmaker]

anytime you wanna go one on one, US vs. norway, I'll take that bet, we'll kick your ass...except maybe in luge or something.

Funny guy

Yeah, I luge all day long

A normal day for me :

1. Wake up
2. Eat
3. Luge
4. Eat
5. Luge
6. Eat
7. Sleep

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[anniemac]

As a US player, I don't see why the US problem would affect this forum a whole lot. CM hasn't been a US facing only site ever that I know of. There are some forums that I belong to that will be affected by this but I don't see it happening here.

This mess that is going on now really should not have been a suprise to any US player. The gov. warned us and we ignored them. Or at least I did and plan to keep on doing it. If they want me, it's way too late for me to hid now.

If it comes down to really not being able to play online, I will still enjoy coming here and reading threads and talking to friends I have made here. I will pine for the days when I could lose my money when and where I wanted to. I will be yearn for the days when I could play MG and Playtech games. I will live vicariously thru the winner screenshot thread. And hope that someday the US Gov. will let me be a grownup.

[max1mike]

you should practice more Rainman...you didn't even have an olympic luge team, as far as I could find, so we'll kick your ass at that too. but, you do have Helene Olafsen.

[rainmaker]

you should practice more Rainman...you didn't even have an olympic luge team, as far as I could find, so we'll kick your ass at that too. but, you do have Helene Olafsen.

hehe...I have neither seen or heard of her before so I had to Google her name

Helene Olafsen

[maxd]

Neg repping is a user "feature" that should be removed, in my opinion. ... It is a "feature" that is frequently abused, and used inappropriately by many members.

Go figure, I feel the same way about coloured text.

If the rest of the world makes such a huge market for online gambling then why can't they just let go like 32 red ....

Good question. As rainmaker rightly points out, the US is generally the "easy pickings" market, a fast way to build up a customer base and get the cash flowing. Because of this it is almost irresistible to new and/or cash-hungry casino operations.

Unfortunately the US also seems to be the "crack cocaine" of casino markets in that it's easy to get started but usually difficult to walk away from. And we all know what that leads to these days: a visit from the DOJ that can really ruin your day. Sites that started back-in-the-day as US-facing are mostly dead or dying; newbie sites focusing on the fast US buck are getting the stuffing kicked out of them and are dropping like flies at a Raid party.

... "Everybody" wants to be big in the US. ... it is very lucrative for a small casino to position itself in a "thirsty" market.

Quite so, a clear picture of where the industry is at insofar as the US is concerned.

I had no real agenda here.

No problems, the thread asks a good and fair question. I don't think anyone has said or implied anything about an "agenda".

[Casinomeister]

I've never considered the members of Casinomeister as being a "market", so people are safe in this respect.

The casinos that support this site are primarily non-US facing - always have been.

At the moment, there are 103 casinos on the site - 17 are US friendly, that's about 16%. Six months ago, there were a handful more US friendly casinos (English Harbour group for instance), but the percentage was about the same. A year ago - the percentage was about the same as well - maybe up two percent. So the US facing/non-US facing casino issue doesn't really affect us.

For those interested, about 60-65% of the traffic at Casinomeister is non-US. If the DoJ decides to ban US residents from Casinomeister, we'll just lick our wounds and continue to deal with the rest of the free world like we've always have been

[jetset]

Bryan has been prudent in his business planning, making sensible decisions backed by legal advice, and as a consequence he has long diversified his offering; to answer the original question in this thread I therefore do not think the US situation is likely to ruin the solid enterprise that is Casinomeister.

In fact it could well benefit from it - marketing funds no longer deployed as widely in the US market could start flowing to opportunities in other markets, like Europe...and to respected and reputable sites like this.

When discussing the United States I think we have to remember that the 2010-2011 stats reflect a market long bedevilled by political inequities and enforcement persecution, and that the potential for future business in a legalised United States gambling market remain significant - even if it develops along protectionist lines as seems likely.

I doubt that any marketer currently eschewing US business will take his/her eye off that particular ball, because it has the potential to make such a difference to the industry once things come right - and imo that will, ultimately, happen.

In the meantime I have to feel some sympathy for operators and affiliates that for one reason or another are too heavily dependent on the US market to survive this blitz.

Seeing everything you have built up being so unfairly whittled away by an apparently vengeful government must be a hard pill to swallow.

[takethemoney]

I've never considered the members of Casinomeister as being a "market", so people are safe in this respect.

The casinos that support this site are primarily non-US facing - always have been.

At the moment, there are 103 casinos on the site - 17 are US friendly, that's about 16%. Six months ago, there were a handful more US friendly casinos (English Harbour group for instance), but the percentage was about the same. A year ago - the percentage was about the same as well - maybe up two percent. So the US facing/non-US facing casino issue doesn't really affect us.

For those interested, about 60-65% of the traffic at Casinomeister is non-US. If the DoJ decides to ban US residents from Casinomeister, we'll just lick our wounds and continue to deal with the rest of the free world like we've always have been

Bryan, glad you understood my thread as a question. I'd been out in the sun yesterday drinking beer on the river and in hindsight might have been a bit tipped and should have put it as a question in my thread title. Thanks!

[suzecat]

Bryan, glad you understood my thread as a question. I'd been out in the sun yesterday drinking beer on the river and in hindsight might have been a bit tipped and should have put it as a question in my thread title. Thanks!

TTM........I like that word. It just describes how I feel most of the time (and I do not drink or recreate with drugs). I feel tipped ....... yeah, that's it