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    4 common gaming myths

    1: RTG/Microgaming/Playtech etc. is rigged.

    Ok… let’s get this one out of the way to start with. If you’re a long time member here you will no doubt have seen MANY ‘XXX is totally rigged!!’’ posts, and the more seasoned veterans amongst you thankfully take the rants that follow with the pinch of salt they deserve. That’s not to say there are not rogue casinos out there… of course there are… but I think people are too quick to attack the software providers.

    A farm can send meat to a dozen different restaurants, but how each one cooks, serves and charges you for it can vary massively. Do you blame the farmer if your steak is undercooked or badly seasoned? In a perfect world the ‘farmer’ would make sure his product is being treated with care so his own reputation does not get affected, but when making accusations of fixing and rogue behavior let’s assign the blame where it’s due. I have personally worked for a few different organizations, with various software providers behind them, and in my opinion the provider had little if any bearing on the integrity and actions of the operator.

    2: Casinos are always looking for ‘sneaky’ ways to keep your money

    Again, one of the more common myths you’ll see ‘exposed’ here at Casinomeister. In another case of ‘no smoke without fire’ there are a few operators there who just love to hide a sting in the T’s and C’s (or in some cases just hide the T’s and C’s all together!) but the reputable, accredited brands want nothing more than to simplify their bonus offers and increase on them.

    Sadly, we cannot. Fraudsters just love to exploit the bonuses offered, and as they get more and more cunning in the way they manipulate the system the ‘house’ must ,in turn, tighten the reins. If everyone was playing for the pleasure and fun of playing in a casino then game restrictions could be lifted… rollover requirements lowered… But while the bonus hunters and fraudsters remain out there, the rules will sadly stay as they are.

    Take a look at the spam folder in your e-mail, and count up the number of fraudsters and various ‘Nigerian princes’ looking to make you rich. Now imagine that a hundred or a thousand times over and you’ll understand how careful casinos have to be when exposing themselves to potential bonus abuse. Online casinos are as attractive to fraudsters as little old ladies are to muggers on pension day.

    3: The industry is on the verge of collapse

    I like to call this one ‘chicken little’ syndrome. Ever since the industry began, people have feared big brother stepping in and ruining the fun for everyone. There will always be political movement in the background, and overzealous politicians trying to decide what their constituents should and should not have access to, from alcohol, to tobacco, to online gaming. Rest assured though folks, this industry is going nowhere. Operators may come and go. Politicians will rise and fall from grace, and every now and again there will be a great deal of sabre rattling.

    All I would say is keep your eyes on the forums, and stay informed. Make sure you know the rules where you are and follow them carefully. Choose your method of financing carefully and stay away from the rogues and you’ll be fine. There will be the occasional storm, but don’t worry, it’s not actually the sky falling.

    4: Casino’s delay your withdrawal deliberately.

    There are two points I’d like to raise in response to this common accusation. Firstly, I mentioned above the political sabre rattling that affects this industry from time to time, and commonly the first place hit is the financial processor. This can cause headaches for the operators as they try to get you your funds. We don’t want your sympathy… this is our job after all.. but we would appreciate your patience and understanding.

    The second point I would make would actually be in the form of a suggestion for posters. If your withdrawal is taking longer than you thought, ask yourself this important question: ‘’Is this my first withdrawal here?’’. If the answer is yes, be patient! Those initial security checks take time but once you’re cleared by the system then you should be fine. If this is not your first withdrawal, or if you still feel it’s taking too long (and no, I don’t consider a few days too long for a first withdrawal) then PM the rep and make a polite enquiry.

    Casino operators are not fools. If we get you your withdrawal quickly then you are more likely to be a repeat customer. We’d rather you stayed with us as a customer than keep the few cents of interest we make from holding your cash for another week. To suggest otherwise really doesn't give us much credit.


    Well that’s my two cents worth. Some of the points have been raised in the forum before, but it does not hurt to provide the alternate viewpoint from time to time. You may or may not agree with all the above, but I hope you at least found it interesting if not useful.

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    How about some of the myths that are true...like casinos lowering the percentages that games payout.....or how free spins payout much less today than in the past.

    Anyone who has been around for a few years understand things have changed. I am not saying they cheat but perhaps they just take more of the pie then they used to.

    Here is an old link from 2002 when people complained about having to wager 7X the bonus on slots

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...egas-nuts.html

    How times have changed

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    Slots games are not as fun as it used to be.
    Payout is lower.
    Free spins are fewer.
    Have to spend a lot to get a good win.

    Other than that, I agree with OP.

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    Plexrep:

    This was really a good article! Without saying whether I agree or not, it was just a great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegasbum View Post
    How about some of the myths that are true...like casinos lowering the percentages that games payout.....or how free spins payout much less today than in the past.
    Reducing the payouts of a game already certified by a jurisdiction would be a little counter-productive. Each game costs a great deal of money to produce, test and certify so I don't believe any of the reputable software providers would even consider doing this. The best way to disprove this 'myth' is to publish expected RTP's which Wagerworks do. I've worked in the industry for a long time and have never had to reduce the payout of a specific game.

    Free spins and bonuses are tied in to the RTP so their hit frequency and payback is all dependant on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyleCasino.com View Post
    Reducing the payouts of a game already certified by a jurisdiction would be a little counter-productive. Each game costs a great deal of money to produce, test and certify so I don't believe any of the reputable software providers would even consider doing this. The best way to disprove this 'myth' is to publish expected RTP's which Wagerworks do. I've worked in the industry for a long time and have never had to reduce the payout of a specific game.

    Free spins and bonuses are tied in to the RTP so their hit frequency and payback is all dependant on this.

    How about RTG casinos who have 3 settings for paybacks. Do you believe any use the highest return setting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlexRep View Post
    [B]2: Casinos are always looking for ‘sneaky’ ways to keep your money

    Fraudsters just love to exploit the bonuses offered, and as they get more and more cunning in the way they manipulate the system the ‘house’ must ,in turn, tighten the reins. If everyone was playing for the pleasure and fun of playing in a casino then game restrictions could be lifted… rollover requirements lowered… But while the bonus hunters and fraudsters remain out there, the rules will sadly stay as they are.

    The problem this presents as I see it is the ordinary player new to online gaming becomes the exploited one.

    With bonuses designed to deter and stop fraudsters. How genuinely would the ordinary player new to online gaming have the remotest chance of winning something. It's almost as if the once exploited have become the exploiters.

    There must be a better way of introducing new customers to online gaming. A think tank or a technological solution to eradicate the fraudsters. Anything would be better than the current way of doing things which IMO leaves new and old players dissapointed and skeptical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Deckard View Post
    The problem this presents as I see it is the ordinary player new to online gaming becomes the exploited one.

    With bonuses designed to deter and stop fraudsters. How genuinely would the ordinary player new to online gaming have the remotest chance of winning something. It's almost as if the once exploited have become the exploiters.

    There must be a better way of introducing new customers to online gaming. A think tank or a technological solution to eradicate the fraudsters. Anything would be better than the current way of doing things which IMO leaves new and old players dissapointed and skeptical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlexRep View Post
    1: RTG/Microgaming/Playtech etc. is rigged.

    Ok… let’s get this one out of the way to start with. If you’re a long time member here you will no doubt have seen MANY ‘XXX is totally rigged!!’’ posts, and the more seasoned veterans amongst you thankfully take the rants that follow with the pinch of salt they deserve. That’s not to say there are not rogue casinos out there… of course there are… but I think people are too quick to attack the software providers.

    A farm can send meat to a dozen different restaurants, but how each one cooks, serves and charges you for it can vary massively. Do you blame the farmer if your steak is undercooked or badly seasoned? In a perfect world the ‘farmer’ would make sure his product is being treated with care so his own reputation does not get affected, but when making accusations of fixing and rogue behavior let’s assign the blame where it’s due. I have personally worked for a few different organizations, with various software providers behind them, and in my opinion the provider had little if any bearing on the integrity and actions of the operator.
    Great post Plexrep!

    The only part I highly disagree with is the quoted part above.
    You more or less suggest that the softwareprovider has no responsibility to who they licence their software to.

    Lets just say I'm a farmer who sells high quality meat to restaurants.
    And lets say my meat is well known, a top brand, restaurants are actually advertising they sell the infamous DeBeuker Meat.

    But one of those restaurants is making a mess.
    Their cooks are urinating in the frying pans, they burn the meat till its all black and are thus dragging MY name through the dirt!!

    I would be furious, and no matter how much they paid me, they would be out off my customerbase immediately, go get your meat somewhere else, BASTARDS!

    I tink RTG and Rival should do more to protect their customers from rogue operators. These operators are dragging THEIR name through the dirt.
    Why can Microgaming do this, and why can other softwareproviders not do this?

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    LMFAO....is this a parody post or what?? LOL!!

    OMG....LOOOL!!

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