Doubts about Vegas online casino

**Rusty** · 6th January 2011, 10:44 PM

Well not played RTG for many moons, knowings as I do how the software plays, especially the last couple of years.

Anyway I always liked the games but hated the low returns so closed all my RTG accounts but something reminded me of Vegas casino online.
I have requested my account closed with this casino on at least 6 separate occasions due to their slots being the tightest on the net but everytime I tried to log back in my account remained open.

Anyway I had an itch to revisit my old love hate relationship with Cleopatra's gold and Ronin as well as looking at the new slots so fired the casino up and sure enough my account remained open.

I decided to make a micro deposit and low roll and 18c a spin.
OK little play time, try again.
5 micro deposits later I am reminded why RTG software and all their casinos are off my Christmas list but what really gets me is this is an accredited casino.
A casino where the payouts are so low that the games are tantamount to being rigged - manager feel free to post my lifetime wager return - but perhaps more importantly a casino where repeated requests to have my account closed have been ignored.

Now I don't want any goodwill gestures and I don't want my account closing because I will keep playing there and posting my exact results - if I win for the first time since joining this dump then I will close my account after a withdrawing. If I continue to get ripped off at least I get the satisfaction of warning others to never play at this casino or the mainstreet group despite the accredited status they have here.

It's all good.

**maxd** · 7th January 2011, 05:28 AM

Sounds like a perfect candidate for a Pitch-A-Bitch, no?

**chayton** · 7th January 2011, 12:56 PM

Personally if I was going to go with only one RTG casino, it wouldn't be one of the Main Street group. Their payouts just take way too long IMO.

Of course you're not going to win anything anyhow so I suppose it doesn't matter.

**vinylweatherman** · 7th January 2011, 01:45 PM

You could always refrain from reinstalling the casino, after all, you didn't EXPECT things to have changed for the better, so if they HAD closed the account, would you not have tried a different RTG to confirm that things are just as bad.

Besides, it looks like DogBoy let one slip in another thread - could be worth a peek

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ike-titan.html

He has now admitted that the "2 pear" variant on Fruit Frenzy is 91%, not 97.5% as it seemed from the pages at the RTG site, where a 91% setting for this game doesn't even exist.

He then goes on to justify the widespread and secret applications of RTP changes as "fair", perhaps an admission that this is a more widespread practice than even the "conspiracy theorists" thought.

I have delivered counter arguments to his 5 key points in favour of this being a fair practice, plus a general summary, and further arguments as to why this is NOT as "fair" online as it might be in B & M casinos.

**AGW** · 7th January 2011, 05:29 PM

Vegas Casino Online, Las Vegas USA Casino, etc. are all well-known casinos.

**slotjunkie** · 7th January 2011, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by AGW

Vegas Casino Online, Las Vegas USA Casino, etc. are all well-known casinos.

for their unbelievable SUPER tightness and ridiculous payout wait time! Which virtually amounts to NO wait time because you will NEVER win

**petro** · 7th January 2011, 08:56 PM

I had a random 10$ bonus posted to me in the mail for Vegas Casino.
Went to reedem it and their CR told me to *&#$ off. Not literally, but you get what I'm saying...

**vinylweatherman** · 7th January 2011, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by petro

I had a random 10$ bonus posted to me in the mail for Vegas Casino.
Went to reedem it and their CR told me to *&#$ off. Not literally, but you get what I'm saying...

So, WHY spend money sending a mailer to a player, only to p1$$ on their own reputation by giving the player "the bird" when they actually try to claim it.

They have gone from "neutral" to "rogue" in the eyes of that player, who may then write of this in the forums.

Surely it is better to NOT send the mailer, and at least stay "neutral" in the eyes of said player.

**Rusty** · 7th January 2011, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by maxd

Sounds like a perfect candidate for a Pitch-A-Bitch, no?

No thanks Max.
I will reserve any PAB for non payment.

What would I gain from a PAB that I can't achieve in this thread?

Edit.

I can see on reflection that the title of this thread is a little inflammatory so perhaps you could change it to something like, "Doubts about Vegas online casino"

**Rusty** · 8th January 2011, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

You could always refrain from reinstalling the casino, after all, you didn't EXPECT things to have changed for the better, so if they HAD closed the account, would you not have tried a different RTG to confirm that things are just as bad.

Besides, it looks like DogBoy let one slip in another thread - could be worth a peek

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ike-titan.html

He has now admitted that the "2 pear" variant on Fruit Frenzy is 91%, not 97.5% as it seemed from the pages at the RTG site, where a 91% setting for this game doesn't even exist.

He then goes on to justify the widespread and secret applications of RTP changes as "fair", perhaps an admission that this is a more widespread practice than even the "conspiracy theorists" thought.

I have delivered counter arguments to his 5 key points in favour of this being a fair practice, plus a general summary, and further arguments as to why this is NOT as "fair" online as it might be in B & M casinos.

You're dead right about not reinstalling them and that is completely my fault though of course they should have closed my account before that and they are completely at fault in this respect.
It is definitely policy to ignore account closure requests.
As for the returns at this particular brand - they can't be rogued for being super tight because there is no real way of proving payouts are much lower here than other places - though they are.

so admittedly I am just stirring the pot on that one.

Then again why should I just sit and take it? I had no way of knowing they were super tight and unresponsive when I joined.
At least people reading this are now aware of what to likely expect from this brand.

I'm pretty sure I have closed every other RTG that I was ever going to play at.