Microgaming Slot Temp Meter

[AussieDave]

Hi all,

Whilst some of you may think this is gimmick, I found the slot temp meters to be somewhat true, though not entirely factual in regards to measuring when a jackpot is going to go off.

My two games of choice are Break da Bank Again and Isis.

I've never got the jackpot (5 wilds) on Isis however I have bagged some nice wins (best $10K). When this happen the slot meter reset back to 80 even though I did not get the actual jackpot. The same has been for BDBA.

Lately BDBA has been hitting 700+. Yet a few months back I'd never seen it go over 295.

Anyway what are people's views on the MGS slot temp meters?


Cheers



Dave

 

[RedAndi]

May be a dumb question but...
What's a slot temp meter?

 

[Mavin1]

Totally agree AussieDave! I was watching the temp guage very closely on Jungle 7's and that is why I was winning. I would look at the guage before going into the game, then when I got a big hit, would go back out and check the guage, it had gone up a degree. This was happening in tandem with every decent win I have gotten from this very brutally "High Variance" slot.

However if you pay close attention to them you will see some that never change, like they are stuck, these I look at as not having a guage, until it moves again. I have seen them this way on some of the multiline slots lately, stuck in limbo.

Then there's games that will be getting hot on the guage but by the time it has loaded and refreshed, it will already be cold. This is what I have noticed with the Alaskan Fishing, Burning Desire and several others. The ebbs and tides are very quick on these games and once it's peaking, you might as well move on to another game.

The single line slots are harder to read as they can be on the rise for a very very long time. For the last few weeks Jungle 7's however has been rising several times a day at AJ and I still think it is peaking. (I have added this edit so as not to mislead anyone, the last good winning screenshot I had on Jungle 7's and then it went tight the following days, may indicate the meter isn't updating as quickly as I think and that my last hit could have been during it's peak. Athough it is showing as still rising, maybe it is actually already down to the low temp. But the temp did work for me just the same.)

So, I agree, there is something to these temp guages as proven by my hits on Jungle 7's. But you have to be checking them constantly to see how often they are rising and how quickly they fall.

 

[Simmo!]

Not having been able to play the d/l casino for a while - a question: now you can open several tabs, can you keep the slot meter in constant view on a tab and does it update in real time? Or do you have to keep leaving the game or refreshing the meter?

 

[Jasminebed]

Thank you for the info about the slot meter resetting for a non-jackpot win of over $10K.

For slots to be random, they are never "due". A single slot spin should not be any less likely just after the jackpot was hit than if it was last hit 5 weeks ago.

The "Temp Meters" just like 3Dice's Zeitgeist are indicators of PAST performance, and should not taken as any indicator of FUTURE (i.e. your next spin) performance.

Neither are they a worse guide to choosing a slot than any other method.

If we believe the slots to be random, then the meter is no more than a bit of fun.

For the progressive slots, I'm sure at a certain level they become +EV, just like carribbean stud jackpots. You are not more likely to hit, but you get a bigger payout if you do.

 

[AussieDave]

Not having been able to play the d/l casino for a while - a question: now you can open several tabs, can you keep the slot meter in constant view on a tab and does it update in real time? Or do you have to keep leaving the game or refreshing the meter?

Sorry can't tell you Simmo! (or is that Saint Simmo!).

As I only play 32Red I have all tabs occupied with slots for the tourney. 1 less tab equates a loss of 1500 or so less spins per hour

I will however give this try. I'll let you know.


Cheers



Dave

 

[De Beuker]

I always use the thermometer when deciding to play Centre Court.
Its my most played game, and I've never hit 5 wilds on it either, but when I get a really good freespinround, with high wins and lots of the stacked wilds involved, the meter almost always drops back to 80 immediately afterwards.
If not, pray for the scatters, because you'll get another great FSround.
The moment it drops back to 80, there's always a massive drop in the number of linewins, no more 4oaks, or 3oak of the higher paying symbols..
Time to change games.

But it depends also on the casino, and how often they update the meters.
Spin Palace for example updates the meters only once per hour, what makes the values useless in case of CentreCourt, because its very busy there (lots of skins on the same server) and the values can go from say 88 to 500+ in less than an hour.
32RED is perfect what that matters, as they update the meters almost real time.

Thats why I dont believe its all truly random, try hitting something on CentreCourt when the meter is below 100, I wish you the best of luck, you'll need it!

But for other games, like all the Thunderstruck clones for example, I do not notice any difference in gameplay, no matter how low or high the meters are.
I've had great runs on Thunderstruck beeing on 81.5, and awful ones when it was 500+.
I think thats because these jackpots are extremely hard to hit and have not so much influence on the slots total payout.

Its all theory ofcourse, but I just try yo take advantage of what I believe is happening, and I can truly say that I've won more than I've lost on the CentreCourt game ever since it was released, so I'll stick to my theory.

 

[De Beuker]

Not having been able to play the d/l casino for a while - a question: now you can open several tabs, can you keep the slot meter in constant view on a tab and does it update in real time? Or do you have to keep leaving the game or refreshing the meter?

At 32RED it updates almost real time, once a minute I think.
You don't have to leave the game anymore, you can just hoover the mouse over the lobby and see.

 

[jod5413]

Huh. I always thought that thermometer was just a gimmick, so people would play more at certain games, or games they usually don't play. Or to con the players into thinking they were ready to hit big.

I keep telling myself, it's random, it's random.

 

[KasinoKing]

For slots to be random, they are never "due". A single slot spin should not be any less likely just after the jackpot was hit than if it was last hit 5 weeks ago.

The "Temp Meters" just like 3Dice's Zeitgeist are indicators of PAST performance, and should not taken as any indicator of FUTURE (i.e. your next spin) performance.

Neither are they a worse guide to choosing a slot than any other method.

If we believe the slots to be random, then the meter is no more than a bit of fun.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

IMHO they are just a meaningless gimmick and I never take any notice of what they say.

KK

 

[De Beuker]

Couldn't have said it better myself!

IMHO they are just a meaningless gimmick and I never take any notice of what they say.

KK

Then we agree to disagree.

IMHO, coincidences do happen.
Sometimes, coincidences happen 2 or even 3 times in a row!
But coincidences never happen 50 times in a row, or even more.

I've been watching this phenomena for the past 8 months, and I can just tell if the jackpot has been hit or not after a freespinround on CC, and I'm right 95% of the time.
But ofcourse, thats all pure a coincidence, LOL.

 

[Mavin1]

I tried to post a pic of the game lobby to show the temp meters, but again can't get the download to work.

Can someone try posting a picture?

 

[silcnlayc]

Is this what you are looking for?

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[KasinoKing]

Then we agree to disagree.

IMHO, coincidences do happen.
Sometimes, coincidences happen 2 or even 3 times in a row!
But coincidences never happen 50 times in a row, or even more.

I've been watching this phenomena for the past 8 months, and I can just tell if the jackpot has been hit or not after a freespinround on CC, and I'm right 95% of the time.
But of course, thats all pure a coincidence, LOL.

Well I'm glad you're winning - by whatever means!

But by what you are saying there are only 2 possibilities:-
1) It's pure coincidence.
2) The slots are not random - and the casinos are actually telling people that!

Which would you think is more likely?

KK

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Well I think the Temp thermometer is a load of rubbish. It changes drasticaly from one moment to the next. For example I can play on my works pc on any given slot and a the thermometer will be at over 700, leave work drive home, get on my home pc and its at 80. Turn off, go to bed, get up, go to work, log on and its about 400. For me it never has been reliable.

 

[skiny]

I tried following the slot meter. Flying Circus was at the very top of that slot meter for weeks at Lucky Nugget. Over those weeks before I gave up I probably spun that slot 2000 times and didn't even get a free spin bonus. The higher up the meter a game is the less I seem to win on it. In fact I don't think that number is tied to jackpots. I've become convinced that if you multiply that number by 1000, that's how many spins before your next free spin bonus.

There's no such thing as a slot machine being due for a jackpot. There is such a thing as a slot game being due for an audit.

 

[KasinoKing]

There's no such thing as a slot machine being due for a jackpot. There is such a thing as a slot game being due for an audit.

Good one!

 

[De Beuker]

Well I'm glad you're winning - by whatever means!

But by what you are saying there are only 2 possibilities:-
1) It's pure coincidence.
2) The slots are not random - and the casinos are actually telling people that!

Which would you think is more likely?

KK

Thats too easy: Number 2 ofcourse!

Its just that casinos don't know they are telling it to us.
And if they do they dont care because most ppl refuse to see it anyway.

I'm not making this up KK, really, I would not write about it if I had not been 100% convinced myself.
But I can imagine you dont believe me, as you dont play CC alot (or not at all), and thats so far the only game I found where its so obvious.
But I can never prove anything, and thats what you need to really convince people.

But to be honest, I dont feel the need to convince people, I've shared my observations, do with it whatever you like.
I just want to say one last thing about this subject, Rusty was right all the time, weighting is done on all the slots, not just on the classic 3 reels.
Which does NOT mean the slots are not fair..

 

[maphesto]

The temp meter are useful in several ways..

OK!
I see that even serious slot players and affiliates have a lot to learn.
Here we go!

For slots to be random, they are never "due". A single slot spin should not be any less likely just after the jackpot was hit than if it was last hit 5 weeks ago.

I can tell you that just after a big win the slot is definately NOT random. At most slots a 50 dollar win is enough for the slot to go from random to "tight mode".
I am pretty sure you have noticed this but you have chose to believe that it´s pure random.

On slots where you trigger free spins with 3 PAYING scatters as Loaded you almost always win less on the free spins when you trigger it with 4 scatters. This is because the 4 scatters have already gave you a win which trigger "tight mode".

If you have 15 free spins on an ordinary video slot and you win much on the second spin you will definately not win much on the last 13 spins.
Of course this is because you have triggered "tight mode"

If we believe the slots to be random, then the meter is no more than a bit of fun.

Wrong again! The slot machine can be called random even if not every single spin is random.

The payout from one machine is calculated from reels, symbols and payout table.

However, the casino have to be "guaranteed" not to lose in the end, that´s why machines reaches "tight mode" and "loose mode" when to many have lost.

This also makes the machines more funny.

At my post here you can even read about these guaranteed payouts.

The payout percent is 96.9 but they guarantee another number within 1000 spins. This is pure evidence for my point.

IMHO they are just a meaningless gimmick and I never take any notice of what they say.

Not that smart, but I have had your thoughts as well. If you choose to avoid all slots with a temp below 85 you will probably gain a higher RTP in the end.
I don´t think you win less than me today, definately not. But if you play as usual and just think about that tiny thing you will avoid some of those losing streaks at a machine.

At your slotbeaters page you have a lot of good stuff when it comes to this. If you see your reel layout on Tomb Raider you can see that it is mathematically quite often that you will get at least two scatter Laras.

But just after a huge win you will definately not see that many scatter Laras that you mathematically would.
This was ONE example.


Here you have some things about temp meters:

* They usually start over and begin at 80 after some one won over jackpot sum. If it´s 80.0 degrees you should avoid it!

* At casinos where it updates often you can use it to se if there currently are many players at the casino

* If you win 30$ at your favourite machine and the temp is 153.7 you can avoid it until you see that other players have played on it. This means that you then go back to win those players money..
Of course it´s no guarantee that you will win, but you will definately not win on the spins just after your win.

*Tournaments, if you can see that man players are using the casino(by checking temp meters for example) there is more money around the tournament slot.

If you are alone in the casino you will hit NOTHING just after your free spins on Loaded, Avalon or Tomb Raider.

If many players use it you can hit free spins several times during your minutes because other players also put money into the machine.

@KK again:

If the slots are pure random, how can it be possible at Rival to see "different" symbols when you change bet size?

Yes, you not only can win less/more when you raise/lower your bet.

There are more low paying symbols when it´s tight and more high paying symbols when it´s loose.
I know that you have seen this, am I right?

Do you want me to give you examples?

EDIT: I am slow, there have been posts after I began. De Beuker plays Microgaming a lot(I see your name in tournamnets list) and you should definately listen to him.

 

[slotplayer]

If you win 30$ at your favourite machine and the temp is 153.7 you can avoid it until you see that other players have played on it. This means that you then go back to win those players money..
Of course it´s no guarantee that you will win, but you will definately not win on the spins just after your win.

I noticed the game would do well when the meter changed frequently. I also noticed if it was at the same value (for me in the 200's) it would do poorly. A few times I waited until it moved up to resume play and the game would improve.

When the game was in a hot cycle I noticed that after it cooled the temp meter was back at 80 or there abouts. I did conclude that either a high roller or a lot of players were playing the same game and that is why it did well.

 

[Nifty29]

I also happen to think the temp meters are a load of twaddle.....but I also believe its a personal thing and nobody is wrong or right - mainly because nobody can prove it either way!

For example, if you hit a nice win when the temp meter is way up, who is to say it wasnt going to hit regardless? Well you cant, unless you have some insight into parallel realities........ The same applies if you lose your shirt when the temp is low - how do you know you werent going to lose regardless?

Anyway, I dont agree with the statement that casinos need to make their slots 'non-random' (whatever that means) to gaurantee they win in the end....that is all about RTP which can be controlled by the number of symbols on each reel and the paytable etc i.e. they dont need to do any more than that. I would love Enzo to chime in here as Im too tired to go into the technical stuff

Maphesto - whats this about symbols changing at Rival according to bet?? I would love to see some examples if you have them - very interesting!

 

[KasinoKing]

@KK again:

If the slots are pure random, how can it be possible at Rival to see "different" symbols when you change bet size?

Yes, you not only can win less/more when you raise/lower your bet.

There are more low paying symbols when it´s tight and more high paying symbols when it´s loose.
I know that you have seen this, am I right?

Do you want me to give you examples?

Yes - examples please!
I certainly have not seen this myself, or even heard it mentioned before!

Would be best to start a new thread so as not to de-rail this Microgaming one...

KK

 

[skiny]

After further investigation I have been proven wrong and the jackpot meter is deadly accurate but you have to zoom in close enough to actually read it.

 

[maphesto]

Good one Skiny!

To Nifty and KK, I will start a new thread and TRY to explain some.

 

[Mavin1]

The temp meter in my opinion doesn't necessarily indicate a "Jackpot" coming up, just indicates that, yes, random good hits are more likely to be happening at that point or less happening at this point. Some games the indicator tells you nothing, so you really have to study the pattern of the play in conjunction with the temp meter. Such as Thunderstruck, Tomb Raider and some others. They are like out of sinc with the meter.

Then there are the games that rise and fall faster than you can click your mouse, like Alaskan Fishing, Pure Platinum, Fat Lady Screams and so on. If the meter is already at the high end, don't even bother going into the game, it will be cold after all the loading refreshing and opening has happened.

Then there are the ones that ride like a rollercoaster with the car and track in perfect sync. I say this is not an indication of a jackpot headed your way, although I wanted to think it was on Jungle 7's, but just an indication of better return if the meter updates in a timely manner.

I have found that a meter at the highest end is already on the 80 degree low end, like the Alaskan Fishing. I never go to the ones that have the meter at the highest point. If a meter only rises to say 600 degrees then the best place I have found to be playing the game is when it's around 380ish to say 450ish.
It's a matter of studying the meter per game.

My feelings on the thought that it is purely for entertainment or rubbish. Then why would a reputable casino put something out there as nothing more than a deception, that would be fraudulent to indicate to players to run to hot games knowing the meter is a fraud and they will rake you over the coals and rob you blind. Why would they do that. I personally don't think they would use a meter device to decieve their players.
What they do count on is the theory that most people will think it is only for entertainment and not pay any attention to it.
But if one studies it enough, it can be a very helpful tool.

I think where people go wrong is they go for the games that are at the peak on the meter, not thinking maybe it hasn't updated to the low temp and they get a cold game, thus causing one to think the meter is nonsense.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

The temp meter in my opinion doesn't necessarily indicate a "Jackpot" coming up, just indicates that, yes, random good hits are more likely to be happening at that point or less happening at this point. Some games the indicator tells you nothing, so you really have to study the pattern of the play in conjunction with the temp meter. Such as Thunderstruck, Tomb Raider and some others. They are like out of sinc with the meter.

Then there are the games that rise and fall faster than you can click your mouse, like Alaskan Fishing, Pure Platinum, Fat Lady Screams and so on. If the meter is already at the high end, don't even bother going into the game, it will be cold after all the loading refreshing and opening has happened.

Then there are the ones that ride like a rollercoaster with the car and track in perfect sync. I say this is not an indication of a jackpot headed your way, although I wanted to think it was on Jungle 7's, but just an indication of better return if the meter updates in a timely manner.

I have found that a meter at the highest end is already on the 80 degree low end, like the Alaskan Fishing. I never go to the ones that have the meter at the highest point. If a meter only rises to say 600 degrees then the best place I have found to be playing the game is when it's around 380ish to say 450ish.
It's a matter of studying the meter per game.

My feelings on the thought that it is purely for entertainment or rubbish. Then why would a reputable casino put something out there as nothing more than a deception, that would be fraudulent to indicate to players to run to hot games knowing the meter is a fraud and they will rake you over the coals and rob you blind. Why would they do that. I personally don't think they would use a meter device to decieve their players.
What they do count on is the theory that most people will think it is only for entertainment and not pay any attention to it.
But if one studies it enough, it can be a very helpful tool.

I think where people go wrong is they go for the games that are at the peak on the meter, not thinking maybe it hasn't updated to the low temp and they get a cold game, thus causing one to think the meter is nonsense.

Essentially what you (and some others) are saying is this meter is the same as one being able to count cards in Blackjack as the mathemathical (both negative and positive) expectations are dependent (can be determined) based on the cards remaining in the deck or shoe. Keeping this simple, this is known as a dependent trial process(es).

Slots and every other game in the casino (with the exception of Blackjack and some sister games of Blackjack) are based on independent trial process(es).. Thus, when the casinos at the Roulette tables began displaying the most recent past numbers that had hit, the handle and drops at the Roulette tables increased dramatically as well as the number of players. The players via this display could now easier study these numbers diligently, lol , as if Roulette was suddenly based on a dependent trial process(es) or so the average player believed incorrectly. The display of the most recent past numbers hit did not change the game of Roulette from an independent trial process(es) to a dependent trial process(es) , the display just aided the player in having a better and quicker chance of going bust by the Player playing the law of averages, a fallacy of gambling.

So if one thinks this MG meter changed the online game of slots from an independent trial process(es) to a dependent trial process(es), suit yourselves. The printing presses will be busy, as history has been changed.

 

[Mavin1]

I know my perception regarding the temp meters may be silly to some, but it works for me. Not 100% of the time, but I have done better playing casinos where there are the temp meters than casinos where there aren't.

No big thing, just part of the fun.

 

[NASHVEGAS]

I know my perception regarding the temp meters may be silly to some, but it works for me. Not 100% of the time, but I have done better playing casinos where there are the temp meters than casinos where there aren't.

No big thing, just part of the fun.

Fair enough.........I have numerous superstitions I must do in a BandM that range from which lights I leave on in my room before heading to the casino to ordering bottled water with every liquored up beverage I order.. All true and if nothing else, it creates a winning or positive attitude for me. Oh yeah, I sing a Neal Diamond song to myself, lol , on the way to the casino from my room. I better stop now. Nothing wrong with superstitutions and having fun

 

[Mavin1]

Fair enough.........I have numerous superstitions I must do in a BandM that range from which lights I leave on in my room before heading to the casino to ordering bottled water with every liquored up beverage I order.. All true and if nothing else, it creates a winning or positive attitude for me. Oh yeah, I sing a Neal Diamond song to myself, lol , on the way to the casino from my room. I better stop now. Nothing wrong with superstitutions and having fun

Well there you go! That's what it is really all about, however I have to say, you have many more superstitions than I do, maybe I need to hone mine a bit more

 

[Scooter7]

Essentially what you (and some others) are saying is this meter is the same as one being able to count cards in Blackjack as the mathemathical (both negative and positive) expectations are dependent (can be determined) based on the cards remaining in the deck or shoe. Keeping this simple, this is known as a dependent trial process(es).

Slots and every other game in the casino (with the exception of Blackjack and some sister games of Blackjack) are based on independent trial process(es).. Thus, when the casinos at the Roulette tables began displaying the most recent past numbers that had hit, the handle and drops at the Roulette tables increased dramatically as well as the number of players. The players via this display could now easier study these numbers diligently, lol , as if Roulette was suddenly based on a dependent trial process(es) or so the average player believed incorrectly. The display of the most recent past numbers hit did not change the game of Roulette from an independent trial process(es) to a dependent trial process(es) , the display just aided the player in having a better and quicker chance of going bust by the Player playing the law of averages, a fallacy of gambling.

So if one thinks this MG meter changed the online game of slots from an independent trial process(es) to a dependent trial process(es), suit yourselves. The printing presses will be busy, as history has been changed.

Much more eloquently stated than the "I call bullshit" comment that I had been planning to post:notworthy

IF the meter is a function of how recently the jackpot has been hit, I see it having some curiosity value for players who lean towards the superstitious. Otherwise, I stand by my 'bullshit' conclusion.

It's all just a marketing ploy-same as a casino listing the sum total of all of their jackpots. You can never win all of them on one spin, so why the hell are they throwing that big number on their websites? Very simple-a bigger number is a more attractive marketing tool to draw in players.

I'm very pleased to see that there are so many people who either ignore or don't understand the mathematical realities-their losses over time will provide steady paycheques for so many grateful people in the casino industry.:notworthy

 

[marcsudbury]

here's the problem i have with the meter, i hit 5 hams on buffet bonanza or whatever that new slot is called. and the meter stayed the same, i check right away and then again every 30 minutes or so. never changed so makes me wonder.

 

[Scooter7]

here's the problem i have with the meter, i hit 5 hams on buffet bonanza or whatever that new slot is called. and the meter stayed the same, i check right away and then again every 30 minutes or so. never changed so makes me wonder.

Sounds like doubling the price of umbrellas and taking 1/3 off every time it rains

 

[De Beuker]

Much more eloquently stated than the "I call bullshit" comment that I had been planning to post:notworthy

IF the meter is a function of how recently the jackpot has been hit, I see it having some curiosity value for players who lean towards the superstitious. Otherwise, I stand by my 'bullshit' conclusion.

It's all just a marketing ploy-same as a casino listing the sum total of all of their jackpots. You can never win all of them on one spin, so why the hell are they throwing that big number on their websites? Very simple-a bigger number is a more attractive marketing tool to draw in players.

I'm very pleased to see that there are so many people who either ignore or don't understand the mathematical realities-their losses over time will provide steady paycheques for so many grateful people in the casino industry.:notworthy

Its also partly your money thats on these paychecks, so I dont really see the point in ridiculing us.

But I always used to say the same, the meters are BS, just as 'certain times of the day/week pay better' theories.
But they came in handy for making a choice out of the enourmous gamelibrary MG offers.

But that was until I saw this odd thing happen over and over and over again with the Centrecourt game.
And until somebody comes up with a logical explanation for that I'll just stick to my own theory, BS or not, it works for me.
So if you all just fill it up when its in the low 80's, then I'll come later and empty it, ok?
Thanks in advance!!

 

[mixx]

I myself believe in the meters to a certain extent. The fact that I'm not sure how often they are updated or how important it is to the casino to update them is what throws me off. Thanks for the post about the meters saying 999 and really being on cold. Couldn't agree with you more. I think they should not call it a jackpot meter, because that is not what it is. Just call it a meter to see how hot a game is. The word "jackpot" throws people off. Finally, it would be nice for all the casinos to make sure they update the meters on a time frame since so many players depend on them. Maybe they do & I just don't know about it. Let me know if you know something I don't know...

 

[skiny]

I'm very pleased to see that there are so many people who either ignore or don't understand the mathematical realities-their losses over time will provide steady paycheques for so many grateful people in the casino industry.:notworthy

Are you suggesting that knowing the mathematical realities of a slot game will help you win and put less money in the pockets of the casinos?

The only way to stop putting money in the pockets of the casinos is to win (random event) or don't play. (no event.)

 

[Scooter7]

Are you suggesting that knowing the mathematical realities of a slot game will help you win and put less money in the pockets of the casinos?

The only way to stop putting money in the pockets of the casinos is to win (random event) or don't play. (no event.)

The 'don't play' option is the only legitimate money maker/saver of course.
My point was that any player who is tempted to play longer or for a higher coin value based solely on whether or not the casino tells them the machine is 'hot' is being tricked into playing more based on a fallacy.

I play a little bit for entertainment, knowing that (bonuses aside) it's negative EV all the way on slots. Even the tables and video poker games that I prefer are just 'less negative'.

 

[AussieDave]

here's the problem i have with the meter, i hit 5 hams on buffet bonanza or whatever that new slot is called. and the meter stayed the same, i check right away and then again every 30 minutes or so. never changed so makes me wonder.

Depends on the size of your bet, least that's what I found. I've got the 5 gold bars with a wild on BDA in the free spin @ .27cents ($750). The meter went up by a couple of + points.

However I've hit the Sapphires with a wild on $9, that paid $7,500 and the meter dropped back to 80.

Did the same of Isis @ $10 spin for a $10K win.

When I got that massive $18.5K win on BDBA in June 2009 that too reverted the meter back to 80.


Cheers



Dave

 

[denamoutz]

is the thermometer used for both real and fun mode combined? or is it considered seperate for real play only?

 

[De Beuker]

Depends on the size of your bet, least that's what I found. I've got the 5 gold bars with a wild on BDA in the free spin @ .27cents ($750). The meter went up by a couple of + points.

However I've hit the Sapphires with a wild on $9, that paid $7,500 and the meter dropped back to 80.

Did the same of Isis @ $10 spin for a $10K win.

When I got that massive $18.5K win on BDBA in June 2009 that too reverted the meter back to 80.


Cheers



Dave

Its only the emeralds+wild combo that counts as a jackpot with BDBA, I dont think betsize has anything to do with it.
I've hit the emeralds+wild 3 times at 32red, on 27ct. spins, all 3 times the meter reset immediately.

 

[bernynhel]

I like to blindly scroll down to some random page of slots listing, stop, then pick the slot with the highest temp to find new slots to play. If the pick sucked, repeat - same thing - but then pick the lowest temp.

 

[DiamondGeezer]

Guys the temp thing is just a gimmick. The games have to be random or they would never pass muster for regulatory bodies like Gibralter and Egogra.

I understand how attractive these theories are if you are losing etc but the reality is MG games are random.

 

[De Beuker]

Ok, one last time:

A high value in NO WAY indicates a slot is ready to pay.

A low value MIGHT indicate the slot is NOT going to pay.

In caser of Centrecourt, I'm convinced this is true.
This is based on hunderdthousands of spins and close observation of how the slot behaves in relation to the metervalues.

Imo, this is done by weighting of the reels, the same technique used on the classic 3 reel slots.
This technique is in no way unfair, it does NOT influence the total RTP percentage and will pass EVERY test.
Ecogra or RNG testing services will have no problems with it.
Otherwise the classic 3 reel slots would have been forbidden long ago.

Microgaming have this weighting technique for many years now, and I really cant see why they would not implement it in their 5 reel slots to make the gameplay more attractive.

For what its worth, the only casino that updates the meters in realtime is
32RED.
Its also the casino where I play the most, AND the only casino where I'm lifetime ahead.
Knowing when not to play a slot can save you tons of dead spins.

 

[denamoutz]

please tell me then when not to play a slot thanks

 

[4 of a kind]

43 posts at this point and not one casino rep confirming or denying the facts about this meter.

Reason, it would be bad for business to ruin the hopes and superstitions of players thinking there actually is a meter telling you when it's best to play. Many players will think they cracked the code and know when to send it in. What their actually sending in is their cash to the casino, much faster and playing dumber then they normally would. This pretty much is just another tactic used to promote gambling.

If this meter actually meant anything, eventually everyone will know how to read it, and when it's at a reading when it's cold, why should it ever go up from there? No one would play knowing it's not going to pay.

Conversations like in this thread are showing signs of players getting desperate here for a win, or trying to justify why their beating a dead horse...

A meter predicting a random outcome could only be luck, otherwise it would have to confirm rigged...

 

[AussieDave]

43 posts at this point and not one casino rep confirming or denying the facts about this meter.

Reason, it would be bad for business to ruin the hopes and superstitions of players thinking there actually is a meter telling you when it's best to play.

Maybe you need to go back and read the 43 posts again

You seem to have missed mine and others that say the meter has reset itself after a BIG win...ect...ect

And like De Beuker I play at 32Red where the meter is in real time.

I do have one question....Of all those posting about the meter being baloney, how many actually play at a MGS casino?


Cheers



Dave

 

[4 of a kind]

I don't think I ever played at an MGS casino and in addition never even saw whatever meters are being talked about.

I also meant in my post not a response from a casino rep, not a casino affiliate. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not sure if there is a difference.

I also stand by these words....A meter predicting a random outcome could only be luck, otherwise it would have to confirm rigged...

 

[Mavin1]

There is always going to be the half that believes and the half that don't.
The one thing is that the ones that don't especially those that haven't even played at MG, have already implanted the idea that it is a gimmick.
That's why I just backed off and figured to each their own.

Again, I say, why would MG use this feature knowing it to be a deceiving gimmick. I seriously doubt they would.

However, they know there are many players that think of it as a gimmick and count on that, there are many that use it improperly, they also count on that.

This is much like the RTP discussions, not enough people who have actually experienced what is being discussed contribute to the thread. Or to many don't want to be made to look like idiots in public.

Well hey, call me an idiot, but I happen to use the meter and have done much better with my play than I have without it. Plain and simple.
I get better hits that keep me playing longer and enjoying the games more.

What is wrong with that?

Isn't that what the most talked about subject is anymore, not getting your monies worth of play?
If you are given a feature that can enhance your play time, then why not learn how to use it......

Part of what caused me to start the thread, Finding Your Happy Place, was because I have finally been able to get more than 10 minutes of play from my deposits by using the temp meter to enhance my sessions. Not for the reason of Jackpot hunting but to get my monies worth of play and this is what the meter can do for you.

 

[bernynhel]

43 posts at this point and not one casino rep confirming or denying the facts about this meter.

No MG rep is ever going to comment on anything having to do with the validity of anything going on with any of the games at any MG site. MG puts it out there, we draw conclusions, the end.

 

[Simmo!]

I mean this might be a silly question, but if a slot is random, and every spin is independent of the last, the best a Meter can do is tell you that there hasn't been a big win lately - or that there has. At the end of the day, your next spin is just as likely or unlikely to win as the last one.

 

[skiny]

I mean this might be a silly question, but if a slot is random, and every spin is independent of the last, the best a Meter can do is tell you that there hasn't been a big win lately - or that there has. At the end of the day, your next spin is just as likely or unlikely to win as the last one.

That was the point of my silly picture.

The way I see it, if a slot game sits for months at 999 on the slot meter that doesn't tell me it's due. That tells me it's broken.