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Yo Pina - no doubt - I'm with you - I saw what the poster wrote - word for word... and you KNOW I love you... But this particular situation got under my skin.
I did see the OTHER casinos mentioned - but it was as an almost "afterthought.."
But this whole post was about making 3dice look bad because 3dice made the original poster wait.
The words were VERY clearly directed at 3dice...
And you betcha - I'm right there on customer service... I believe customer service should be NUMBER ONE in any business - and I'll be the first to say - hey - not stepping up to par.. But this wasn't what the OP was doing.......
The OP was using a SMEAR campaign...
If you know ANYTHING about manipulation - these words are a classic example of someone throwing a temper tantrum saying things about a casino in the hopes that the casino will BOW DOWN to them... Sorry - but that is exactly what I am seeing.
I'm cool if it was about customer service - but really - it wasnt...
Because as Enzo states - and as the OP apologizes - THIS WAS NOT ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE...
And if it EVER was about customer service the OP should have stated - I'm having problems with customer service.. NOT all these implications that 3 dice is not deserving of accredited status - etc. that the OP implied.
Yeah - I wasn't trying to be nice...
I was saying: HEY --- LOOK AT WHAT YOU SAID... If that isn't what you meant - then you should change what you said - OR FIX IT...
If that isn't what the OP meant - the OP spoke when OP meant it - and now the OP wants to say they didn't mean it? - because - it might get brought out into the public...
But the OP didn't have fear of putting 3dice down.
It is ALL right there in plain view...
The OPs words...
I don't think I put ANY extra words in there - I just showed how those words looked to me.
AFTERTHOUGHT EDIT:
Also - I wasn't trying to be downright rude either - I was trying to point out ---- HOW the IMPLIED words looked to me - and how the post came across - and how --- it could possibly hurt 3dice in the future --- When a NEW GAMBLER --- comes to the forum and does a search for 3dice --- to see if it is worth playing at --- and only bothers to read that first post... You know - I know - and we ALL know - that most folks only read the first page of a discussion.. unless they're here to stay... and like reading and/or discussing things... Without the knowledge of how it turned out - that section about 3dice looks like utter reprehensible smack talk.
And someone who doesn't know the drama - the gossip - the evil ways of people who aren't getting their snotty way - are going to take that post at face value - and when google picks it up as an AUTHORITY for 3 dice - its going to look bad... So seriously - the poster needs to realize the IMPLICATIONS of their words. And if they didn't mean how it looks - then they need to change it...
Because I'm not the ONLY person who read it that way.
Last edited by WagerWitch; 2nd April 2010 at 12:17 PM. Reason: Edited to ad EDIT SECTION
WW i am having trouble understanding your strong reaction to funeral979's post. We don't know what his original issue was, but he apologized; maybe he was having a difficult day when he typed his comment. As someone else said, these type of comments don't really influence my decision about whether i think this casino is a good one or not. It was clear that it was a one-off situation, specific to only this poster.
Also, i think Enzo is very capable and adept at defending 3dice when issues come up regarding his casino.
For the most part, i don't believe affliates/players need to defend casinos so staunchly on these posts, where it is clear that the issue the posters are writing about is an emotional one for that player. Readers can usually see this clearly, and it is usually resolved in the end.
Pam
OK - I'm an affiliate - but if you look at my site - I'm not promoting 3dice.
(not yet, anyhow)
It wasn't 3dice I was actually defending - I hope you guys realize this.
It was the SMACK TALK DOWN of ANY CASINO - because a player wasn't getting their way.
It is the IMPLIED Cutdowns - of the casino - because the customer wasn't getting what they wanted.
It was the UNDERLYING Message in the words... That a casino isn't up to perfection...
All those things would be fine and dandy --- IF --- the casino in question was GUILTY of those things.
But you know - I know --- and 90% of CasinoMeister regulars know that 3dice is generally one of the tops at customer service.
I'm not going to defend myself --- cause I believe STRONGLY in what I am saying.
THIS PARTICULAR OP was being an obnoxious brat throwing a temper tantrum because they weren't getting their way fast enough.
They were IMPLYING 3dice does not deserve their accredited status because they weren't getting perfect immediate service...
If you will notice - there is NO mention of OTHER casinos until way past the 3 dice stuff.
Sorry guys - YOU ALL KNOW how I am... I'm generally the nicest person...
Until someone really pulls my buttons out.
And this was a load of crap.
TOTAL crap.
Does this mean Funeral SUCKS As a person?
No - I did NOT say that.
I said FUNERAL used this forum to cut down 3 dice because things weren't happening to their satisfaction...
Now - keep in mind - Funeral also said they weren't depositing - it was a unique situation - and both Enzo and Funeral don't want to publicly disclose the issue...
Now --- Funeral apologizes - admits Enzo is a standup guy - NO MATTER hat they said about Enzo in the recent past oh what..... 20 minutes or so... (ok - a few posts ago...)
It got my goat...
Why?
Because look people - we - as a forum here on CM have power...
But when someone wields that power unecessarily - and cuts down some place that has been held in high regards by very many people... with EXCELLENT customer service - time and time again.... Even if people don't like the games - almost EVERYONE has said what excellent customer service they have... --- well - when someone uses that power to MANIPULATE... SCREAM and throw a temper tantrum...
Well - I kinda feel obligated to point it out to them - because in truth - when they do something stupid like that - it lowers the power this place actually has.
Funeral isn't stupid.
I'm not saying anything like that...
I'm sternly saying - TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOUR WORDS ARE IMPLYING...
It's like me talking behind your back in school... and passing on a rumor - because I'm jealous of you.. and I want everyone else to hate you....
It's petty...
And hey - I'm open to people making mistakes... I make TONS of mistakes in my life.
I'm usually also the first to apologize for my mistakes - and I try not to make them again.
I ALSO try to fix my mistakes - and I also try really HARD to make it up to whomever I have hurt or damaged by my mistakes.
I see NO remorse - I see NO OOOPS -- let me fix this...
I see a very BRIEF apology - AFTER the damage has been done.
We aren't the mass majority of people --- us forum regulars... We live here... LMAO
But there are a steady stream of people - who come in from Google - or other links...
And they are looking for info on WHERE to play.
IF they come across that post - well - lets be honest --- What do YOU think they are going to think?
Hmmm?
Seriously - what is some newbie - trying to find info on 3dice - not knowing the gambling community - not knowing all of us --- what do YOU think --- they will think of 3 dice -- after reading ONLY that post?
Its damaging - its evil and its wrong.
Sorry if I offend by my honesty - but I can't just let someone hurt US - ALL of us -- by not thinking... I don't want to lose my effectiveness when it comes to dealing with 3dice.
Do ANY of you feel like 3dice deserved that rant?
Not even the OP did after Enzo put them in their place.
jackieb7 (2nd April 2010)
I think it only fair to point out that I am only permitted to read 9000 words from a single poster in a given day. After that my eyes glaze over, I curl up into a ball and form a thick shell which prohibits the influx of further words. I'm sorry to say that you reached your quota somewhere around "If you will notice - ...".
Seriously though, your points are not amiss but the nails you are driving into my skull in order to make them are rather uncomfortable. Please use fewer words, and nails, for the rest of the day.
Thank you, he said in a melodic voice quite out of keeping with his usual character.
Last edited by maxd; 2nd April 2010 at 01:05 PM. Reason: schpelink
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maxd (2nd April 2010)
Useful links: Accredited Casinos & Poker Rooms ~ Casino Reps ~ Warnings ~ Rogue Pit ~ "No Can Do" ~ Forum Rules
NEW! CM's Annual Awards: Best and Worst in Online Gambling for 2011
Pitch-A-Bitch Stuff: read the PAB FAQ, Submit a PAB (don't forget to read the FAQ!), or dig around in the PAB Archives.
Other stuff: Max's Blog (ICE reports, editorials, et al). Feeling generous? ... Max's Wish List at Amazon!
WagerWitch (2nd April 2010)
Ahem.... smart... uhmmmmm.... yeah... uhm....
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WOW...maybe you two should think of getting married or something
WagerWitch (2nd April 2010)
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