KasinoKing's SlotBeater Strategy

[big_mac]

Apart from that it is by no means the most profitable strategy (play absolute maxbet on the highest variance game you find) - nor the least profitable one (play absolute min bet on the lowest variance game you find).

While that is true, on average, many people won't play enough to see their results converge to the average.

And so the strategy that would be valid on the slotbeaters site is to keep Z as low as you can by maximizing bets and risk.

Only if you want a theoretically maximum return, but with the risk of losing money every month until you die on the day you finally hit a really big win!

Playing smaller bets at lower variance is more likely to see you consistently in profit - which is probably a far more reasonable aim for most people.

I don't really have a problem with the strategy, it's quite a reasonable and prudent approach, but I think that the reasoning behind it is a little suspect.

[Jasminebed]

Say I have a closed bag with in it two colored chips. One is red on two sides, and the other is green on one side and red on the other. I take one chip out of the bag and show you one side. You see red. What are the odds that I picked the chip with the green ?

Cheers,

Enzo

1/2...Now do I get a deposit bonus Enzo

Thanks a lot for that explanation.

I have to agree with a lot of posters that it is not more probable that you will hit something on the next spin, or hundred spins.

And the reason that high rollers are not breaking the bank with KK's strategy is that there are limits to the deposit bonuses.

KK only takes the most attractive ones, and doesn't win on every deposit.

Personally, I think that by not playing KK's strategy, or his own, JHV should have to pay KK big bucks for taking up this much time posting on this subject, and therefore avoiding another large loss playing on TILT.

[KasinoKing]

Say I have a closed bag with in it two colored chips. One is red on two sides, and the other is green on one side and red on the other. I take one chip out of the bag and show you one side. You see red. What are the odds that I picked the chip with the green ?

50/50.
Did I pass?

As a by-the-way, I actually got 84% in A-Level maths.
I don't know how that equates to other countries standards, but I do know that 2 + 2 = 5.


KK

[3Dice]

Sorry guys.

The answer is not 1/2. Any other guesses ?

Cheers,

Enzo

[Jasminebed]

Well, if we are bragging, I achieved 100 percent in all three math courses in my senior year.

And our provincial math competitions (only entered by math geeks) I was in the top ten percentile, and in the top one percentile for girls.

Just call me "Barbie"..."Math is hard"

[DiamondGeezer]

A most interesting thread!

I think JHV raises a very interesting concept - would an affiliate deliberately post up a flawed strategy so as to attract and keep a bigger player base? And certainly I have seen strategies on other affiliate sites that look highly dubious at best.

It is a shame JHV has ended up getting banned over this. Certainly in other forums I post in I have seen a lot worse. We're all big boys and all that. Yes the posts were strong but they were levelled at KK the Slotbusters affiliate, not KK the very helpful forum poster. My personal view is if you put yourself out there as an affiliate then you are going to get shot at more than a regular playing member. I hope the mods can take onboard all the excellent and insightful posts JHV had done and when the dust settles it would be good if he can come back. The guy is a very talented poster and as a player I know he is factually correct on a lot of issues.

Back to the question - Is KK peddling a lousy strategy that will gain him a portfolio of low rolling losers that will feed him a revenue stream month after month?

IMO it's not a question that is easy to answer yes or no to, so I think it is a very legitimate question to ask. I have had a quick look over the site and I would say overall it does present the strategy in a balanced way.

To summarise the KK strategy is a sub optimal way of playing with a bonus so that you have entertainment but also give yourself a chance of being a small net winner over the long run. I think the main issue JHV had was that he felt KK was presenting it as a winning strategy whereas in reality it is more of an entertainment strategy. I have to say I do agree with him on this and can see where a conflict of interest lies. I think if he header was changed from 'winning' to 'playing' it would be a fairer reflection of the strategy.

I personally believe KK is a very sincere guy but I am convinced he doesn't truly understand WHY his strategy does work. I think he knows from his returns that it does give small profits but I don't think he conceptually understands how it works. This is what JHV was explaining above.

As far as KK's strategy goes it is little more than breakeven - which is fine for entertainment purposes. If you stripped out the Ladbrokes results profits would be a lot lower. KK will point to all his records which I am sure are genuine. But really the records are not important as such as it would be possible to work out the thoeretical profit easily enough anyway. And I'm guessing now but it probably is not massively different from his actual results.

All in all there is a lot to be said for the KK strategy. It has many good things about it. KK is making profits and having a lot of fun in the process. He's actually done a lot of good for players by advocating this controlled method. I do however think that unless you have the maths to back it up then advertising a 'winning strategy' on the web is very dangerous. An individual players results are not maths.

So I think JHV did have a fair and legitimate argument. And also that KK is a sincere and genuine guy who is not trying to deliberately scam people.

[KasinoKing]

I have to agree with a lot of posters that it is not more probable that you will hit something on the next spin, or hundred spins.

The thing is Jaz, if a feature has a 1 in 100 chance of hitting, and you have just done 300 spins without it, you gotta admit you've been pretty unlucky, no?
Do another 100 and still nothing, you've been very unlucky.
Another 100, you've been very very unlucky.
And so on...

I suppose it depends on just how unlucky you think you can be!

KK

[slotheadlizard]

Hmmmm, I'm gonna channel my fav. affy's intelligence and conclude that that's probably incorrect

[RobWin]

The odds that we will be seeing 10 heads in a row in our next 10 tosses is 1 in 1024.

*Sorry for the derail folks but I want to catch Enzo while he is here..

Those odds sound very familiar to me Enzo. I think those are also my odds of making a large cashout at 3Dice sometime this year...

Enzo, I have one for you here....

Assuming I make another deposit at 3Dice before the day is over, and also assuming my average deposit, my average bet, my play style and patterns and yes, one more mix into the equation, my cashout to deposit ratio.....what are the odds of me making a large cashout today at 3Dice?
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[Pulver]

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