KasinoKing's SlotBeater Strategy

[bonustreak]

Just a note that you may want to watch what your saying about KasinoKing, he has been in this business for quite a few years and is very well respected in the gambling industry. I think you should have read the disclaimer dude.

[jod5413]

I hope you mean "Entertaining" in a sick sort of way, 4 of a kind? Why JHV would bother a long time, reputable poster like KK is beyond me.

It probably means that his Mama made him quit breast feeding at the age of 20 years.

And yes, JHV, I realize that you will give me another neg rep telling me I am stupid. Go for it, Asswipe (oops, there I go again, vicious flamer that I am).

Gawd help me, it takes all kinds.

[JHV]

I was wondering where in the hell you were...good to see you posting again. LMAO at getting a refund from KK...ah peeps, don't take it so serious.

The losing money stuff was satire. I'm a professional gambler (although this year my gambling has been anything *but* professional) and have been for many, many years. I placed in top 2% of state maths competitions because I was a world-class geek at high school.

My issue here is that CasinoMeister forum is supposed to be a haven from scams, deceit and unethical business practice.

Do you think it's currently a haven for new gamblers who weren't maths geeks like I was or who don't understand the ins and outs of HA, variance and such?

I PM'ed Bryan over this a month (?) ago. I like Bryan, I really do. I just *suspect* he's over-worked or otherwise too strung-out to worry about stuff like this - or perhaps it's incredibly complex due to his friendships with people like KK and various long-term relationships with casinos like InterCasino. But I think he should put someone on it - I'll work for free, flagging stuff like this that is completely unethical and out of line. Submitting lists to him of Casino Reps who consistently avoid responding to allegations of misconduct or who just use this forum to spam their products.

This industry needs a forum that doesn't have these grey* conflict-of-interest spots. I was hoping CasinoMeister forum would be it, and I've given suggestions here and there and tried to pitch in to improve it in ways that deliver absolutely no personal reward or otherwise to myself - I'm just a hippie-idealist.

*Anyone who thinks this SlotBeater issue is a 'grey' area is....lol. This is black-and-white ethics. As defined as it gets.

[JHV]

Is there anyone here who actually cares about Player Advocacy and Ethical Behaviour?

All I'm seeing is shills come out with rambling nonsense - no counter-arguments, no logical reasoning in refute of my points, nothing.

(4 of a Kind excluded obv...)

Will all the shills please actually try to create a counter-argument to the points I have made? So we can discuss the issue at hand?

Specifically, that KK's SlotBeater strategy is pure garbage - based on nonsensical maths and arguments, designed to deceive those who don't have the ability to effectively analyse the validity of what he's claiming.

Not only is this kind of advertising in breach of UK gambling legislation, it's immoral and hurts the victims who fall prey to it.

How does it belong on a forum with this banner:

[JHV]

Just a note that you may want to watch what your saying about KasinoKing, he has been in this business for quite a few years and is very well respected in the gambling industry. I think you should have read the disclaimer dude.

The fact that someone who operates in this fashion can be "well respected in the gambling industry" is what is wrong with this industry.

Bryan and CasinoMeister have been (and are believed to be) in direct opposition to operators who conduct themselves without ethics or any moral code.

You think I should have read the disclaimer? I think you should read the UK gambling legislation and ask your lawyer whether tacking on a caveat or a disclaimer in fine print will protect you from prosecution.

I'll save your time.

It won't.

[GGW Laurie]

Is there anyone here who actually cares about Player Advocacy and Ethical Behaviour?

All I'm seeing is shills come out with rambling nonsense - no counter-arguments, no logical reasoning in refute of my points, nothing.

(4 of a Kind excluded obv...)

Will all the shills please actually try to create a counter-argument to the points I have made? So we can discuss the issue at hand?

Specifically, that KK's SlotBeater strategy is pure garbage - based on nonsensical maths and arguments, designed to deceive those who don't have the ability to effectively analyse the validity of what he's claiming.

Not only is this kind of advertising in breach of UK gambling legislation, it's immoral and hurts the victims who fall prey to it.

How does it belong on a forum with this banner:

I care about those issues JHV, i just dont see why all the insults and slandering are being posted by you, this is more like a smear attack against KK and his reputation imo, you call it a debate , i call it slander, im sure KK will post and deal with this and you soon..........l/j

[JHV]

I care about those issues JHV, i just dont see why all the insults and slandering are being posted by you, this is more like a smear attack against KK and his reputation imo, you call it a debate , i call it slander, im sure KK will post and deal with this and you soon..........l/j

Have you read the SlotBeater Guide?

Are you really going to make me do a Level 1 breakdown of how it's completely fraudulent and makes absolutely no mathematical sense yet is written in a style that would confuse some into believing that the author knows what they're talking about?

I'll do this if you want. But if you make me do it, I will lose all respect I have for you as a person. This is like seriously NON-debatable stuff. The only debate is whether fraudulent 'strategies' which will only result in substantial losses long-term should be allowed to be pimped out by shills on a forum claiming to be a Casino Watchdog and Player Advocate service.

Do you think such deceitful scamming articles should be allowed on such a forum?

If you disagree that the article itself is deceitful and unethical, you need to return to Grade school mathematics for a refresher.

Have a read of this WizardofOdds very, very basic explanation if you are truly confused:

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/bettingsystems.html

...the Martingale is neither better nor worse than flat betting when measured by the ratio of expected loss to expected bet. All betting systems are equal to flat betting when compared this way, as they should be. In other words, all betting systems are equally worthless.

I don't mean to be insulting of other peoples' intelligence here - but seriously guys? You guys have all been in the industry for some time - are you seriously living in that prehistoric world believing betting systems with no mathematical basis have legitimacy? Can we debate the Tooth Fairy's existence next?

[gloria460]

I'm afraid I've only skimmed over it because I believe that you can't beat the system...I didn't know that you were dead serious about it. For the record this is a public forum and I believe that you and KK maybe should have done this in private if you were going to call him a scammer and such. If you wanted a serious discussion it could've been done in a better way on a public forum. The way you've worded your post now has posters taking sides instead of discussing the issues that you bring up. I also don't believe people should take pot shots at what you believe in either.

I truly believe that he isn't trying to scam anyone and the system works for him.

[JHV]

I truly believe that he isn't trying to scam anyone and the system works for him.

If you truly believe this, would you also believe me if I told you that I have $1,000,000 waiting for you - you just gotta send me $10,000 first for administration fees?

There are Nigerian Princes, lawyers for Princes and Lottery operators all over the world who would love to get their hands on your email address.

[gambblex]

Just to remind:

Progressive betting isn't just pointless or worthless.

It's a kiss of death