Weeeeeee!!!!!

[patrina]

[quote=Upset;269785][QUOTE=kimss;269573]... Considering I have a thread here loosing 5K in a night, and losing 7K in a night, I find it very comfurting that I for once had this luck and turned $80 into 5K.

So you're so happy. That you gave out $12,000 and they gave you back $5,000 of it. So you go out and buy a BIG Plasma TV? You had $12,000 and now only $5,000. And you consider that a win? You must like paying out large small amounts over a period of time. And get a percentage lump sum back in the end.

I can make you a better offer. I'll Make a deal with you. Beginning January 2009. You send me a $1000 a month, And at the end of December 2009. I'll send you a lump sum of $8000. Now thats $3000 more than the casinos offered you back.

I dont think this thread should be about the judgement of kimss, why can't we just say hey congrats and wtg, and keep it at that. I just think all this hype is wrong. He doesn't have to answer to any of us, just because he is sharing his experiences the poor man is being analyzed to the hilt. What he does with his winnings is his business after all, no? Thanks
Patrina

[kimss]

Originally Posted by patrina

He doesn't have to answer to any of us, just because he is sharing his experiences the poor man is being analyzed to the hilt. What he does with his winnings is his business after all, no?

Giving gambling advices to a man [me] that has attended GA and knows pretty much all there is to know about gamblers really doesn't work, I have already proven myself an impossible case, The CS personel I talk to - and I have frequent contact with them - know I am a happy camper however get hopelessly distracted in periods of wagering [losing] more than I should [can afford].

Way back many years ago in the 5K in a night, I pretty much stated alot of my thoughts and we had a great discussion going. I kindoff expect people in here remembering what have been written in earlier threads so I do not care to repeat myself to much, trying not to be the hamster running around the wheel so to speak,

On the other hand, the "do not really apply in Meisterland" concept from 1891 is basically do not gamble since you will lose. When such a mindset is in place I would never have wagered, and never visited this forum at all. Why tend a gambling forum if you don't gamble?

How can you win huge wins if you dont bet high? Surely I was foolish to lose 7K in one evening, I do not really need anyone to remind me of that, LOL. I know that very well, however for some reason my mindset that evening ws locked in the hopless-gamler mode, chasing loses! By time you learn that the MG system will suck you dry when it's impossible to win, you must simply disconnect and wait for tomorrow - atleast. But gambling in its basic is a gamble, thats the whole point. Had I known I would lose I wouldn't play, and the argument of giving away $1000 a month didn't really apply. Only given time and history, looking back, does such an argument make any sense. On the other hand - what is really the point of it? Should I feel remorse for winning, I dont think so, But no hard feelings 1819, I hear your argument quite alot amongst my friends so I am quite familiar with the concept.

Another thing that easily becomes a problem in a forum like this, is the event that a fellow member accually wins and writes about it - like I did. In Norway we have something called "Jante loven". What it basically means is that you are not supposed to believe you could achieve anything, and if you do - screw you! This is an old and very common mindset amongst norwegians, and might I add, I find it very destructive. At a time when someone accually wins, most people will envy you and try to poke you in hope of atleast feeling a little better themselves. After all, why should you win when I don't! I should add however - that I believe this thread has steared clear of such derailing!

I have stated alot in the past on views on gambling, which I all still believe! Am I glad that this time I went out great, that this win really cleared alot of earlier deposits, sure! Will I keep gambling? Sure! The lesson from this win is really that you do not need to deposit 1K in hope of winning, atleast not with my agressive style of betting! I started with $80, next day with $50. So in my case, if I don't get any fun from $100 deposit, I might aswell stop! If I am able to get 1 such win a year, that means I could do 50 deposits of $100, that is 1 a week! If I am better to withdraw than I was earlier, I could maby do more.

My problem mostly was that I had a few slips here and there, and those slips were expencive! I have always had great wins, in November and Desember 2007 I wasted a win on €7990 - you guessed it, I tried winning €10 more and that ended up in costing the whole lot! I wasted 5K, 6K and 1-3K several times. Had I withdrawed at those times history would have looked wuite differently!

But why am I rambling, and who am I defending myself against I wonder? I guess, when you have been so open about gambling that I have you need to do this. Noone should believe that winning 5K is an easy task, and noone should really believe that making a living from slots is even possible in the long run. However it's fun and enjoyable, finding the balance you can afford is what it's all about!

Anyways, I did take that stroll I mentioned! Walking around this morning, window shopping my LCD TV. It's in the shop across the street, it's lovely! 46 inch 1080P! I know I could have bought it 10 times the last year, however I gambled instead. In the end - WHO CARES! Something I learned the last years running a company, making money, throwing them away, is people really don't care! They do care for one thing only - and that is that they do not posess the funds to waste as I do - and what do I do with them? I throw them away!

But hey - they could work as I do, make the same money instead of nagging me on how I should spend my money to make _them_ happy!

Im getting myself a brand new TV, and if Red Flush wasn't there I sure as hell didn't get a new TV, cause right now I couldn't afford one if I wanted one! Taxes and christmas kinda eats up most extra profit, and a trip to spain already payd for makes that clear!

Oh, oh, I gotta say it! I'm getting a new TV suckers!
(And sure, I could have bought it many times before, we already know this, but this is so much fun).

Kim drinking red wine, signing off!

[1819]

Originally Posted by kimss

Giving gambling advices to a man [me] that has attended GA and knows pretty much all there is to know about gamblers really doesn't work, I have already proven myself an impossible case, The CS personel I talk to - and I have frequent contact with them - know I am a happy camper however get hopelessly distracted in periods of wagering [losing] more than I should [can afford].

Way back many years ago in the 5K in a night, I pretty much stated alot of my thoughts and we had a great discussion going. I kindoff expect people in here remembering what have been written in earlier threads so I do not care to repeat myself to much, trying not to be the hamster running around the wheel so to speak,

On the other hand, the "do not really apply in Meisterland" concept from 1891 is basically do not gamble since you will lose. When such a mindset is in place I would never have wagered, and never visited this forum at all. Why tend a gambling forum if you don't gamble?

How can you win huge wins if you dont bet high? Surely I was foolish to lose 7K in one evening, I do not really need anyone to remind me of that, LOL. I know that very well, however for some reason my mindset that evening ws locked in the hopless-gamler mode, chasing loses! By time you learn that the MG system will suck you dry when it's impossible to win, you must simply disconnect and wait for tomorrow - atleast. But gambling in its basic is a gamble, thats the whole point. Had I known I would lose I wouldn't play, and the argument of giving away $1000 a month didn't really apply. Only given time and history, looking back, does such an argument make any sense. On the other hand - what is really the point of it? Should I feel remorse for winning, I dont think so, But no hard feelings 1819, I hear your argument quite alot amongst my friends so I am quite familiar with the concept.

Another thing that easily becomes a problem in a forum like this, is the event that a fellow member accually wins and writes about it - like I did. In Norway we have something called "Jante loven". What it basically means is that you are not supposed to believe you could achieve anything, and if you do - screw you! This is an old and very common mindset amongst norwegians, and might I add, I find it very destructive. At a time when someone accually wins, most people will envy you and try to poke you in hope of atleast feeling a little better themselves. After all, why should you win when I don't! I should add however - that I believe this thread has steared clear of such derailing!

I have stated alot in the past on views on gambling, which I all still believe! Am I glad that this time I went out great, that this win really cleared alot of earlier deposits, sure! Will I keep gambling? Sure! The lesson from this win is really that you do not need to deposit 1K in hope of winning, atleast not with my agressive style of betting! I started with $80, next day with $50. So in my case, if I don't get any fun from $100 deposit, I might aswell stop! If I am able to get 1 such win a year, that means I could do 50 deposits of $100, that is 1 a week! If I am better to withdraw than I was earlier, I could maby do more.

My problem mostly was that I had a few slips here and there, and those slips were expencive! I have always had great wins, in November and Desember 2007 I wasted a win on €7990 - you guessed it, I tried winning €10 more and that ended up in costing the whole lot! I wasted 5K, 6K and 1-3K several times. Had I withdrawed at those times history would have looked wuite differently!

But why am I rambling, and who am I defending myself against I wonder? I guess, when you have been so open about gambling that I have you need to do this. Noone should believe that winning 5K is an easy task, and noone should really believe that making a living from slots is even possible in the long run. However it's fun and enjoyable, finding the balance you can afford is what it's all about!

Anyways, I did take that stroll I mentioned! Walking around this morning, window shopping my LCD TV. It's in the shop across the street, it's lovely! 46 inch 1080P! I know I could have bought it 10 times the last year, however I gambled instead. In the end - WHO CARES! Something I learned the last years running a company, making money, throwing them away, is people really don't care! They do care for one thing only - and that is that they do not posess the funds to waste as I do - and what do I do with them? I throw them away!

But hey - they could work as I do, make the same money instead of nagging me on how I should spend my money to make _them_ happy!

Im getting myself a brand new TV, and if Red Flush wasn't there I sure as hell didn't get a new TV, cause right now I couldn't afford one if I wanted one! Taxes and christmas kinda eats up most extra profit, and a trip to spain already payd for makes that clear!

Oh, oh, I gotta say it! I'm getting a new TV suckers!
(And sure, I could have bought it many times before, we already know this, but this is so much fun).

Kim drinking red wine, signing off!

"finding a balance that you can afford"...you said it perfect. that pretty much sums it up. "playing" what you can afford to lose is the whole key to gaming entertainment. it is very difficult for some. it is not about amounts of money. i have been accused of being a big gambler because of the amounts of money i set aside for playing. i am not a gambler. the real gambler is the guy making a ten dollar bet with five in his pocket. get a solid hold on what you can afford to be without. if some months its a couple hundred then do your best with that amount. if some months it's a few thousand then all the more fun you can have. if there are some months you dont have any extra and it is a choice between the electric bill or the casino? stay home and rent a movie. you are not alone in your situation k. i know alot of folks in the same boat. iv'e seen more than one go down with the ship. gaming is fun as hell and for some it is an outright obsession. talking with others can be a great help even if you have to take a few punches. i hope you can control it and i hope you stick around the forums if you need to vent. that is why we are here. enjoy the win and the new idiot box.

[Jasminebed]

Kimss, I think you have always been upfront about having a gambling problem, or being a problem gambler. I respect that you do not sugarcoat it.

You started a thread you were done with gambling and leaving us here at Meister. I did not know quite how to respond to that (so never got around to it, procrastination is one of my many vices) because I hate to see a valued member go, but I thought you were probably making a good choice for yourself.

And now you have won. I am so pleased you got some of the thousands you have lost back.

I attended a meeting for needle users with a friend, and it really dealt with "harm reduction" as alternative to quitting an addiction outright. My harm reduction for gambling is using a prepaid card...gotta have the cash, not having any deposit methods tied to my bank account, and leaving my bankcard at home when I go on a bus trip to a B&M.

Count the money as gone the minute you deposit. If it is $100 a week and you can afford it, that is your choice. Someone else might choose something else. I think I've mentioned elsewhere that some of my friends have newer drapes and more cosmetics.

It was quite nice to see that your Sweetheart is part of your harm reduction strategy.

Good luck to you kimss, whether you gamble or not.

[kimss]

As for the payout schedule, we are now 2,5 days into the wait. I recieved email that the payment is finalized, meaning it's up to the banks how fast it goes from here. (Well that is what i read from it anyway, 3-5 days).

I will keep you posted when the funds are available, so we have a "benchmark" on a typical withdrawal,

[kimss]

It's now monday morning, no money as of yet! For some reason one cannot help wondering why, really, it's taking such a long time to move money from a to b.. Anyways, back to work!

[EasyRhino]

Red Flush's payment processing is not overly quick, and I don't think they do anything over weekends. Give it a couple days.

[Luigi810]

Kimss, don't let this win suck you in even deeper, quit while you at least have some of your money back..

A BIG congrats, on your win

[Luigi810]

We are all very happy for him, but we are also worried for him because we care, and I'm sure kimss knows he was going to get the truth of how we feel,
we support him through his wins and his losses no matter what, we're just being honest..

[silcnlayc]

I kindoff expect people in here remembering what have been written in earlier threads so I do not care to repeat myself to much

Repeat as much as you like kimss, if the need is there for we have very short memories due to short attention spans due to the reels running in our heads and refreshing our memories would be a kind thing for you to do for many of us

As to the win...I understand too much what you are saying ..

We gamble knowing we can lose but that win is sweeter than the loss especially when it is a great win such as the one that you were blessed with..I do the same thing, use my fun money to play in the casino and if I have lost quite a bit and If I get back even a half of it down the road , it is like we acomplished something..

Go buy that tv that you want ...go to dinner..do some fun things because you know you will spend it back faster if you don't. Because that what we as gamblers do..

Been there, done it and can feel your happiness at the moment! So splurge before you blow it...

The casino will always be there but watching the big screen tv...will help keep you from it for a while


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