Grand Prive Done on Dec. 1st

[Pinababy69]

Any chance you're referring to this "revolution" that Floyd keeps mentioning? LOL...pretty sure that's the word that Big Dollar used in their ad campaigns as well, isn't it?

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by Pinababy69

Any chance you're referring to this "revolution" that Floyd keeps mentioning? LOL...pretty sure that's the word that Big Dollar used in their ad campaigns as well, isn't it?

That one, and another is the fact he also has mentioned the six hour time frame on cashout reversals...Grand Prive was the one that initiated this time frame back a couple of years ago and then there is a couple of archive photos of those folks that I previously mentioned that also look at hell of a lot like the ones in the GoWild about us page...Also Grand Prive also announced this so called "Revolution" back a couple of years ago when they started doing the live webcast streams announcing the winners of their contests...a lot of different things here look all too familiar to this ole fart that played at Grand Prive for years !!

[MissScarlett]

At last .... I get to test my latest gadget the "He Said But Meant Translator".
Got it for a buck at last weeks MIT's garage sale ....Mrs Bush has one!


He said-
Rest assured that all payments due for November will be made as per usual, but that will be the very last payment made by GrandPrivé Affiliates.

He means-
Don't panic little buddies, any of you expecting to get paid by GrandePrive Affiliates for November will still be paid for November. Last thing I want is your ass hounding me for a few bucks. Naturally the deal you had with us is over, null and void as of Dec 1. You'll be directing people to places that don't exist anymore.... don't even bother.

He says-
Recent developments in the operations of our software provider, Microgaming, as well as general trading conditions in the US has led us to conclude that GrandPrivé Affiliates is no longer a viable business division for the GrandPrive.com group of casinos.

He means-
I invested a shit load of money to get my hands on this all set up and ready to go online casino biz. Even with the lease payments and giving a hunk of my profit to the OWNER of it every month.....I was guaranteed to make me a super shit load ton of money. Till the US Fun police decided they wanted a cut of it too. When the Gov found out they were SOL on getting a penny from my end or yours or the players, they got mad and decided to get even by dragging it into the never ending money pit of a legal system. I work smarter not harder so why bother making half the money I want to here when I can pack it up here and go unpack it over there.
Bottom line I signed on to make fast big bucks and have reached the end of the gravy train here folks..... gotta move quick or risk loosing a piece of the pie.

He says-
That is the bad news. The good news is that the European-based, Villa Fortuna Affiliates, is up, running and ready to forge a new business relationship with you. Villa Fortuna Affiliates is open to all non-US business (Canadian and European especially) and offers the latest Affiliate Program platform from Microgaming.

He means-
On the bright side the moment I realized I'd made as much money as I was going to make out of you all... around June last year. I put the wheels in motion to get all set up for my next hit on the rest of the world. Got one cash cow all set and just about to add the others for variety. Hey..I didn't get where I am by being stupid. I've been a busy Dr Evil and finally have it all ready to go. But your welcome to throw some biz my way just as you do now but remember no US players ok, they're of no use to me but hooking me up with your grandma in Germany is cool.
Now if you'll please excuse me there's a gazzillion bucks across the sea with my name on it. Nothing personal guys, it's just business.

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by Pinababy69

Thanks Silc...that's what I figured.

I just took a quick glance at the Villa Fortuna Affiliates website, and it sure looks to me like it was set up for Villa Fortuna Casino only. From the About Us page:



So if this program is dedicated to the new casino, and the Grand Prive affy program is closing...it follows that they are not going to keep seven casinos around and not promote them somehow (to new non U.S. players). What I "can" foresee happening is all non U.S. accounts being migrated over to the new Villa Fortuna. Or at least that player database being used to try and sign up those existing GP players that haven't already signed up at Villa. I signed up for them back in June when alot of others did...at the time I didn't even realize they were the new Grand Prive casino. I should have known though as they also used your email addy as your account login, just as Grand Prive did.

I got this invite, and when this was discussed on the forums, Grand Prive were asking those they know had posted to get their posts DELETED, as they dindn't want it known this had happened. Too late, affiliates had found out that GP were directly recruiting players, cutting affiliates out all together.

Now, we have the interesting case of the 7 casinos;. AFFILIATES are to receive payments only to the end of November, BUT while no US players can play after that, what about the NON US players, who are STILL able to play at the 7 casinos beyond December 1st. They will STILL be generating losses, and this would normally be shared back to the affiliates, however, I have an account, andso far have HEARD NOTHING about MY accounts ceasing to exist after December 1st, so it looks like this will NOT happen. Placing ALL of us into Villa Fortuna will be hard enough, but with a week to go, they have not even STARTED the process of moving existing non-US players over to Villa Fortuna.
Do we presume that we will ALL find we can't play, and GP will have a sudden revenue gap while they get through the process of getting us to all uninstall the old casinos, and download and register at Villa Fortuna. I think not, I think NON-US players will freely be able to play at the original casinos for some while, and that movement to Villa Fortuna will be gradual, so as not to disrupt the non-US revenue stream. IF I LOSE from December onward, any affiliate who referred me on a percentage "for life" deal is going to get screwed out of their 30% or so of my monthly loss.

PLAYERS will hardly notice. I MAY get another invite to try the "new improved Villa Fortuna", as they will need to go back to impressing non-US players again.
Given that they treated me "like a dog" when it was all about the US, and they had only dipped an experimental toe into the UK and European market with "that CD", they have their work cut out

I Find it hard to believe GoWild is Grand Privvy, since Grand Privvy know all about "bonus abuse", and would have guarded against it from launch.

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

I Find it hard to believe GoWild is Grand Privvy, since Grand Privvy know all about "bonus abuse", and would have guarded against it from launch.

Yea, I'm not actually saying that it is yet Vinyl but all of my indicators are so far pointing in that direction of connection the same way that Bigdollar is connected...

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by RobWin

Yea, I'm not actually saying that it is yet Vinyl but all of my indicators are so far pointing in that direction of connection the same way that Bigdollar is connected...

Fair enough, they DID run that SPECTACULARLY incompetent comp points promo, after all

[RobWin]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

Fair enough, they DID run that SPECTACULARLY incompetent comp points promo, after all

Maybe Floyd will see this and offer a comment or two, although I would seriously doubt that they "GoWild" would ever admit to any real connection here to the Grand Prive group !

[jetset]

Originally Posted by KasinoKing

I sent an e-mail back to Irwin for clarification last night, but so far no answer.

All very odd.

Any clarification from your affy contact Irwin yet?

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by jetset

Any clarification from your affy contact Irwin yet?

No, but I sent my mail very late Friday & it's only very early Monday now so I was not expecting a reply yet.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a huge amount of e-mails to wade through this morning!

KK

[Mousey]

I no longer have any GP casinos installed... Just wondering... Any USA people w/existing GP accounts having any problems logging in to their casino/accounts?

If not... are they simply cutting their affiliates loose? (rather a crappy thing to do, but not beyond them IMHO)