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Rival Slots and Casinos.. Need Some Input!!

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tim5ny

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Anyone playing Rival software still?.. and liking it? Are the video slots good? Free spin bonus rounds? How are they for paying winners? And which casino do you recommend? Thinking about trying one tonight but want to hear from peeps first!
 
Recommended? - they are all good to go in my opinion.

Last month I made a 'killing' at Sloto'Cash due mainly to big wins on Reel of Fortune, 5-Reel Circus, Cleopatra's Coins & Hobo's Hoard.
In my experience Oceans Treasure is complete pooh and Hole in Won is VERY high variance (if you're not hitting feature rounds, you're screwed!)

Bear in mind that Reel party is a clone of Cleo's Coins (both have a possibility to win 100 free-spins!), and Love & Money, So 80's and Winter Wonders are also all clones of each other (pretty low variance = good for clearing WR ;))

This month I blew my monthly at Da Vinci's mainly due to stupid 'high rolling' on the aforementioned Hole in Won (hoping for a biggie which never came), Reel of Fortune (in Duck's anus mode), and Bank Heist which stole my cash with an unprecedented 130 spins with no escape in the final round!! :mad:

The other one I would recommend is Watch the Birdy - highly amusing and can be fairly profitable if you hit 1 or 2 good bonus rounds.

Good luck! :thumbsup:
 
KK made a 'killing'....??

Did they lower the cashout amount to $10??? :D

WTG KK. I gotta say that I dont think they pay as well as they used to.

I was able to get a lot of play from my deposits, and had some really good cashouts for quite a while, but since the paytables changed (and also some reel symbols IMO) its been hard to get a winner. Cleo and Reel Party provided some good wins for me in the past, but lately have been dead as a doornail. Its also interesting that nobody has posted about getting the 100 free spins for a long time, given it seemed to happen fairly regularly earlier this year.

I dont like the changes they have made to the slots, and I try to stick to the ones where they paytables havent been altered. The new fortunes slot is good - great graphics and seems to pay OK.

My deposit amounts here will be reducing in future as I find it harder to win nowadays......but that could just be me I guess.
 
Nifty29 said:
KK made a 'killing'....??

Did they lower the cashout amount to $10??? :D
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Deposited $100 - cashed out $600 = Happy Chappy! ;)

Have to partially agree with the others though, I was VERY lucky with the above casino, and their slots are generally quite hard to win big on as most seem to be very low variance. One thing I would say is if you get a big hit on a slot, don't stay on it for too long afterward because the odds say you will have a long wait before you get another one!
 
Has anyone from you playing with Rival also Connection discontinuances ?

At me continuously, a few spins turning and then always the same- stop and error etc.

Specially if you get Free Spins 2-3x turning and then stop.

I close the game and then open the game again, but it don't starts at the last Free Spin, in the meantime, if i close the game, i think the Spins running further, but i'm not sure.

I use XP Sp2 and DSL (2000) over WLAN and i have it at no other Casinos i'm playing.

It has nothing to do with delete cookies and internet files, i tried it all.

This Situation makes no fun to play at Davincis.

Support told me that they make an update next month and hope that will help, but who knows.

Maybe some of you have another and rational solution for me ?

Thanks

Zodiac
 
Hi Zodiac

I have been having issues for months with logging in etc - sometimes I have to open the casino up to 10 times just to get the login screen to pop up which is very frustrating, and why I dont spend nearly as much as I used to at rival casinos.

The slot themes and graphics are really different and entertaining and the payouts are fast, but since the paytables were changed about 6 weeks ago it seems very much harder to win. I was doing OK for a long time on the slots but I think its possible the reels themselves have been altered as you just dont see the same combinations coming up any more (e.g. 100 free spins, bonus rounds during free spins, car bonus on atomic age etc) - its another reason I dont play as much any more. Its also uncommon to get any more than 50x bet in a bonus round/free spins, which doesnt compare well with MG/RTG etc.

If the bugs can be ironed out then I might increase my play, but I just wish they would reverse the changes they made.

Also, I find Da Vincis Gold the slowest by far of that group - paradise8 is the fastest and I dont have issues with slow play on that one. Have you tried that one?
 
I play at the Rivals alot (almost exclusively) not because I particularly like them but they are easy for me to deposit to. As for payouts, here's the trick. First have a quicktender account because you don't want to try and cash out ACH, can take months literally. Then when you make your withdrawal ask live chat to have accounting flush your account. Then you don't have to wait 48 hours for processing. My last withdrawal (made deposit through Quicktender which does make a difference because you don't have to send in security documents) only took 12 hours to hit my Quicktender account. If you deposit with credit card it will take about 24 hours because you will have to send in security documents.

As for the games and the changes, you are so correct. Very hard to hit anymore. I have got some good withdrawals on little deposits but from playing "Fortunes" and a 100 spins on Cleo. Played today on B'day money at all casinos and got the free spins on Cleo twice and won only $6+ each time.

But support is good and bonuses are too. So make up your own mind.
 
Nifty29 said:
Also, I find Da Vincis Gold the slowest by far of that group - paradise8 is the fastest and I dont have issues with slow play on that one. Have you tried that one?
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Hey Nifty, thank you for your answer.

In the meantime Rob contacted me in regarding this issue but i believe that he has no other Solution as i got from support.

I have not played paradies8 yet but i will try it ;)


in regarding Withdrawals:

i made a withdrawal request to Neteller and it was reversed, they say that my main deposit is C2Pay, because i deposited 5times via C2Pay and 1time via Neteller

where do they know from ? they can only suppose it :rolleyes:

if i deposit the next 5 times via Neteller they say Neteller is my main deposit ?

they have all my security documents and it is approved, so why should it not possible to cash out to Neteller ?

i will see what Rob say

@ anniemac

good tip that it's possible at their group, thanks :)
 
yesterday i tried to play at paradise8 what Nifty29 had proposed and must say: :eek:

Oh God, what a horrible thing to open and play there.

sorry Rob Rival, that sucks really, out, in, out, in and so on.

you can set a hook at the Login Window for saving your password, but if the Casino closed and try login again it opens the window for the registration.

sureley you can say that you have an existing account, but again and again :mad:

after several attempts i was able to claim the 100% match Bonus and to deposit

there are the same and greater connecting problems as well how with Davincis and i'm consider to delete this Casino again, while i have namely no desire on such this software disorder

i'm also not amused about this, because i like some of their games, sorry Rob if you read this but i can say only how it is at me

i experienced such a thing until now only once in my game time it was Partygaming with Starluck Casino etc.

Hey Rob, your technical staff must work urgently at your Software and your Network that such things don't occur for your members

and it's not at me, because at my PC it's all okay and i have no problems to play at Casinos with other Software

maybe it's only at me and maybe at other of your customers the Casino is running without problems, i don't know and you can say equal it's only one member it's not important

hope that you don't will thinking

last try that i will make now is to uninstall and reinstall and see what's happen

you see Rob that i like to give your Software one Chance more and say not enough now, i will delete all with Rival Software

in this sence a good working ;)


Zodiac
 
Hi Everyone,

First, I do apologize for the inconvenience this issue has caused and I do appreciate the patience and cooperation I've had so far.

I have been in touch with Zodiac via pm to investigate the connectivity issue he describes. In *this particular case* we're leaning towards it being related to a user-end connection issue perhaps a firewall, a router, a web accelerator, a proxy, a conflicting IE plugin, or something else in the way.

I'll be in touch with him shortly to suggest some diagnostic tests for him to run in order to determine where the connection drop is occurring or what program/hardware device is conflicting the communication between the user and the server.

Since other users, such as Nifty mentions, are having similar issues, I do realize it is not simply *only* an end-user issue however, I believe the majority of instances are related to a conflict with one or more software/hardware installs/settings on the users' computer. I also realize that a solution(s) must inevitably come from the Rival development team. Make no mistake, rectifying this connectivity issue is a top priority.


Regards,

Rob Rival
 
Rival say

Hi i do also like rival, free spin features can sometimes hit easy and often.
Also if you do take a bonus its kinda easy to clear, I think divincis gold has the lowest wagering on sign up bonus. Also my old fave was cleo new fave was metal detector and the new slot kinda pays low on free spins and i find the bonus round to hard to hit.

Also i like to play the slots with free spins and bonus rounds because it can realy pay well to hit that bonus round during tose free spins.

But i do have problems with the software, Like the amount off time during spins. and the slots crashes alot and if it crashes during free spins you gotta click out.

If the games wernt ok or payd bad i would nether deposit at rival to many errors. I get the odd dissconect at other casinos but nether constant errors.
 
RobRival said:
Since other users, such as Nifty mentions, are having similar issues, I do realize it is not simply *only* an end-user issue however, I believe the majority of instances are related to a conflict with one or more software/hardware installs/settings on the users' computer. I also realize that a solution(s) must inevitably come from the Rival development team. Make no mistake, rectifying this connectivity issue is a top priority.


Regards,

Rob Rival
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already once well that you have recognized that it gives problems with Software and Hardware

in the meantime i have uninstall and reinstall paradise8, and the login window work normal now, but if you are in a game and the reels are turning a few once, you have continually discontinuances, what i have also described

i have not tried the normal slots, i can say only that it's on the Video-Slots

and in the moment i let paradise8 deinstalled and play not at Rival before this Situation will be cleared
 
Nothing is solved

it changed unfortunately nothing Rob, absolutely nothing

the most horrible connecting is at paradise8, it make no fun so i let it uninstalled

Playing at Simon Says and ThisisVegas is easier and don't make so much trouble although it gives also connecting problems

and at Davincis Gold always the same: in, out, in, out, in, out ...............

so, makes playing no fun :(

it didn't solved anything
 
in my case, i haven't even been able to login at all because of some "critical" error. no support, no solutions, no technical team response even after i sent them their "debug" file. the 24 hour wait has become the new year :eek:

i got one e-mail from pantasia saying they saw i logged on and is everything ok now? what?!?!?!?!

the thisisvegas rep seems to be the only one from rival with a clue...and i never even signed up there.
 
Hi Rob,

These payout issues were brought to a head last year & although things got a little heated, eventually the slots were adjusted and I think everyone was happy with outcome.

The free spins on Cleo & others are simply not hitting again as they used to. Then when you do get them, you repeatedly get nothing.

Nifty29 said:
I have had 40 free spins before on Cleo and won $1 - and it does suck!!
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Obviously I'm not the only one who gets jack on the free spins.

Nifty29 said:
but since the paytables were changed about 6 weeks ago
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Now I read that you guys have been screwing around with the pay tables again!

Then in this thread it shows you've been doing it again...Or is this just a carry over from that :rolleyes:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/rival-slots-changed-paytables.20283/?highlight=Rival

As I know you guys (Rival) have a habit of tinkering with slots and their payout tables I thought it best to let everyone know how long this has been going on for.

Again my question is why can't you leave the damn payouts and the slot mechanics alone? Other casino do and still make money. You think after being busted so many times you'd learn to leave the slots & their pay tables alone :rolleyes:

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4th November 2006, 10:16 AM
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/rival-it-only-gets-better.14943/
(This thread goes for some 9 pages, well worth a read.)

me_and_ed said:
they have reduced the paytables on slots, when I asked Live Help for an explanation here is what I got. It appears the tables have been cut by at least 50%. I like the software, great customer service, but what the hell are they thinking!!
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me_and_ed said:
I was a little quick with my first analysis of the paytable change, I said they were reduced by about 50%, I was WRONG, more like 75-80%, what use to pay $1.50 now pays .25c
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RobRival said:
The 5 reel slots have been revised with not just changes in the paytables, but in the reels as well. This means even though one particular win may pay less, if you hit the freespins (which now occur more frequently) you are looking at 15 freespins with 5x multiplier for some of the games. Freespins can also be re-triggered. The games are much looser now.
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The thing that bothers me is this statement "The 5 reel slots have been revised with not just changes in the paytables, but in the reels as well."

If you can change the slots reels then wouldn't this affect the pay-out %...From memory you were asked Rob who does your pay-out auditing...and I'm yet to receive a response on that one.

I was always under the impression that legit casinos would have their games audited before release. But if your constantly changing the reels and the pay-tables then no audit is going to prove anything, is it!



Cheers

Trezz
 
hippo925 said:
in my case, i haven't even been able to login at all because of some "critical" error. no support, no solutions, no technical team response even after i sent them their "debug" file. the 24 hour wait has become the new year :eek:
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Unlike MG which is a no-go area for me 6pm - 11:30pm (ridiculously intermittent connection :mad:) I have not had any troubles recently logging in & playing at Rival casinos. (I did have problems a few month back).

However several times when I just wanted to check something on their websites I have suffered ludicrously slow or even no connection. :(
I don't know anything about servers, or where theirs is located (the Moon?) but they urgently need to do something to improve internet connectivity.
KK
 
The are still many problems with the software, unfortunately. I had no problems playing a few weeks ago, but last night was rather a pain. Took several attempts before I could even log on. Then after playing I went to the Cashier section and receive IE Script Error pop ups. Doesn't matter whether I click 'yes' or 'no' to continue runnings scripts on page, I can't tell whether I've met WR. Also, clicking the current promo I'm playing, doesn't go anywhere and I can't get a look at the T&C again for the bonus I'm playing. Can't remember if there's a max cashout on it or not.

I'll try again this evening, and if all else fails, I'll have to contact CS.

At least I'm not the only one...

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/does-it-take-alot-of-patience-to-play-at-rival.21974/
 
Funny, I don't have connection or interface problems. I install it where it wants to go, and I use winpatrol and when installing 'scotty' asks me if I want to allow the program to make a registry change in host sump sumpn and I've always replied, 'no'. Might be part of the reason?

(I do get all kinds of funky error messages when I accidentally open two incidences of the same casino in rapid succession)
 
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I just installed THISISVEGAS and so far no problems but I was just experimenting with their BJ in fun mode as I am prolly done online playing BJ for real and going to just stick to B and M's til my online questions and issues are clear if ever. Or I simply prefer a real deck versus a hearsay random shuffle deck!:what:////sorry for derail!
 
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Had no problems at all logging in, playing, and no script errors in the cashier a short while ago. (I've cleared the WR and made a small WD. :thumbsup:) Rob is aware of the player connections and error issues. The Rival team continues to plug away at getting these issues resolved. :thumbsup:
 
well thankfully(i think) i never have any problems with running the rival software on my pc, but as much as i like the software and the cs i get from the rival casinos i must say they have some crappy slot payouts and in the free spins unless its one of the i slots i can barely make $3 on the 10 free spins, this they need to change
 
peteyweestro said:
well thankfully(i think) i never have any problems with running the rival software on my pc, but as much as i like the software and the cs i get from the rival casinos i must say they have some crappy slot payouts and in the free spins unless its one of the i slots i can barely make $3 on the 10 free spins, this they need to change
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So I guess you could not offer any advice for a newbie at Rivals on which slots to try....fyi I like the 9 liners like Thunderstruck at MG.....any rec's appreciated......too tired to search and read threads...TIA!
 
One thing I've found consistent in winning sessions is to play the hole in won i-slot to a goodly profit, then future and fantasy fortunes to a finale.
Most of the older games (maybe these as well) are very much bonus centered and the bonus payouts are mostly low to mid.. pretty rare in my play to get a knocker on the older ones. fwiw when you're in a slot game, clicking help will give the payouts. And if you play hobo's hoard you can make your own silly beat-box 'song' by hovering over each character you're about to mooch off of. SIlly fun once or twice :)
 
somewhat remarkable is also, that they make experiments during a game session, also if it takes only a few minutes

if they like to make experiments, so happened before two days, they should indicate it before one can login and not if you are playing and must ask CS what's the reason why nothing goes more

and i don't grasp that a tech- team needs a so long time to sort this problems out, remember how long it's ago, since the issues are known.
 
NASHVEGAS said:
So I guess you could not offer any advice for a newbie at Rivals on which slots to try....fyi I like the 9 liners like Thunderstruck at MG.....any rec's appreciated......too tired to search and read threads...TIA!
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I have quite a bit of info on my site (link in sig), but basically of the new ones Hole in Won is medium variance but a total pig if you don't hit the bonus feature very often. Fantasy & Future Fortunes are higher variance where the 'picking' games usually pay out much better than the free-spins.
Highest variance of all is Scary Rich - potentially huge wins in free-spins (due to 3 expanding, multiplying wilds) but if you don't hit these your bank is gonna plummet! :(
Of the old one's I like Reel Party - frequent free-spin re-triggers, and Hobo's Hoard - big wins from picks.

I hope that helps - Good luck!
KK
 
Hmmm... I always try to start out my slots play at Rival on one of their 3 reelers. I have a weakness for Cash Cow... I want to see 3 of those damn cows line up, but never do. :rolleyes: The 2 Fortunes games are my favorites of the bonus slots, but they will eat you alive if you don't get a decent hit early. They seem to either be 'dead' or 'hot' with no in between. And like KK I seem to get better payouts on the pick features than the free spins. Scary Rich frightens me. **shudder**

Of the old multiline slots, I like the one with the treasure hunter... i can't think of the name ... the one with the metal detector. (Geesh! Not that I'm getting senile or anything...)
 
This is the best way you will see them cows in a row find a pic of them crazy things.



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I like
So 80's
Metal Detector
As The Reel Turns
Hole in Won
Scary Rich is ok what a time for this one to come out near Christmas.
What will they come out near Halloween? 4th of July early pumpkins where you can blow up pumpkins with firecrackers.
 
Re

I never have luck with the video slots, but do very well with the classic slots.
I like gold rush, and the red white and blue sevens. MANY MANY times , I hit the three diamonds, the three red sevens, and turned 20 bucks into a couple hundred just playing 30 cent spins. gold rush has low payput, but hits often when playing good. Most i ever won off the video was 100 bucks on cleo coins on a three dollar bet . Every time I tried those slots, it ate my money away with no wins besides that.

Ama
 
How did you cash out? If you cashed out through Quicktender you should have already had your money even if you didn't flush your account. If it was by ACH, good luck. You will get your money but it will take a while, weeks possibly to get it. When I make a withdrawal I have them flush my account and depending on day, time of day and casino, I usually have it in QT within 5-24 hours.
 
Rival Gaming

I like "Cleo" slots, had my 100 free spins, but surface to say payout is a bit disappointing, since I was betting $1.50.Played at Pantasia!

Managed to win at the 3-reel slots - "Flea" market, kept trying to win the 3 diamond ring, but nada!Did hit the 3 chest of drawers couple of times.

Am having disconnection problems as well, usually when I first login.
Disconnection happens when I had my "freespins", had to logout and re-login, even so, it did not login me in immediately, had to wait awhile.

I do like the slots, its just the disconnections and payout on the video slots that I am iffy about.
 
anniemac said:
How did you cash out? If you cashed out through Quicktender you should have already had your money even if you didn't flush your account. If it was by ACH, good luck. You will get your money but it will take a while, weeks possibly to get it. When I make a withdrawal I have them flush my account and depending on day, time of day and casino, I usually have it in QT within 5-24 hours.
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i wanted also flushing my withdrawal, but they (Davincis) said the cash-out will need to go through the full 24 hour waiting period

requested on 07/12/20 and received it including over the holidays on 07/12/27 (to Neteller)

and i think it goes normally faster without weekend and holidays, but not sure


silkprint said:
I love the fantasy game . I haven't had any connection problems at DaVincis . I started 2 cashins a week ago and am curious to see how long it is going to take to be paid .
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in this issue it would be interesting to know, how you connect to davincis ?

WLAN, Modem, using a firewall, a anti-virus software (where could block the server) or not and what for a system you have

i ask this, while some members having problems with rival and some not, it could also interesting for Rival to know, in order to solve the problem
 
Just a little more info on cashouts at Rivals, an ACH withdrawal is going to take 10-15 days or longer. They are having processor problems again.

Silkprint, I PM'd you with info that might help.

As for the flushing of withdrawals, in my experience if I have them flush my account and very nicely ask them to process as soon as possible, I will get my WD within 24 hours to Quicktender. The quickest has been 5 hours and the longest 24, which got me an apology and a personal message with assistance from my casino host. I don't know if it helps but I am a VIP at all of them (spend way more money than I cashout).

As for the connection problems, mine didn't really get bad until around December and now they are really bad. I am using the same computer as always connected the same way - thru telephone line/modem. I live out in the sticks and highspeed and WIFI is not an option. Was working fine, now not so fine.
 
Fun Mode and Real Mode games play with the same odds at Rival casinos.

ACH withdrawals do take longer than expected and I wish that wasn't the case but I try to get US players to use QuickTender instead which is the fastest method for withdrawals.

John
 
XSX said:
I tried slotocash few days ago. fun mode was terrible (HOLE IN WON). But i still decided to give it a go. guess what? made 1.5k from 150 deposit. May be just a spell of luck...
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That slot is definitely high variance!
As you found out - it can pay BIG... or it can suck you dry in no time.
(I found that out too... :mad:)

Great result there! :thumbsup:

I agree the 'fun' is the same as real.
I tried most of them in fun mode before real & got comparable results.
Don't be surprised if you got lots of bonus features - lots of their slots do that in real mode too!
 

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