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    Question Why don't Players tell the Affiliate that they join a gaming site by them?

    I like to ask a crazy question.
    How come when someone joins a place to gamble threw an Affiliate they never tell them that they joined by you.
    I have many that never said a word to me as of yet.Is it because they don't want anyone to know?
    I think it is crazy.And I bet if the Affiliate knew the player they could get more things for the player in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BingoT View Post
    I like to ask a crazy question.
    How come when someone joins a place to gamble threw an Affiliate they never tell them that they joined by you.
    I have many that never said a word to me as of yet.Is it because they don't want anyone to know?
    I think it is crazy.And I bet if the Affiliate knew the player they could get more things for the player in the long run.

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    good post - affiliate sites could have some kind of logging system where players notify them which sites they have joined. That way, loyalty bonuses etc could be given
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christoff View Post
    good post - affiliate sites could have some kind of logging system where players notify them which sites they have joined. That way, loyalty bonuses etc could be given
    That would be cool.
    The only thing I know is what the users site name and that's it.& where they are.I would love to know who joined the place by me.
    And maybe help them out even better also.With some extra perks for them.It's all in who you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BingoT View Post
    I like to ask a crazy question.
    How come when someone joins a place to gamble threw an Affiliate they never tell them that they joined by you.
    I have many that never said a word to me as of yet.Is it because they don't want anyone to know?
    I understand your sentiment, but I don't think it will ever happen.
    I've joined loads of sites through CM's links, but never told him.
    A few people have told me when they joined through my site, but it's only a small proportion of the total.
    It is very nice to know, but not terribly important at the end of the day.

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    There's an interesting point here. I am sure that affiliates could do more for their players if there was some system in place to notify.

    I know casinos don't really like affiliates knowing the players as obviously it means they can continue to market other casinos to them, but with the advent of slots tournaments and the lack of clarity on loyalty promotions, the affiliate could provide ongoing information, even competitions, to a player that they might otherwise have missed.

    This could work two ways obviously and in theory could be a good partnership.

    What you probably have to remember though is that:

    a) a lot of newer players probably aren't aware that they are going through an affiliate link
    b) casino tracking systems work differently so there is no guarantee that a link is a affiliation (depending on how/when the player first visited the casino)
    c) a lot of players probably would prefer not to go through an affiliate link, although if there were "added value" then maybe that would change

    A lot of affiliates give the concept a bad name IMO. Dodgy casinos, incorrect information and a general money-for-nothing-sod-the-consequences approach.

    There ought to be a regulatory system in place for affiliates too IMO, though who would actually police that?! Maybe there's some scope for having a site where players vote in or vote out affiliates...kinda self-regulation...dunno...maybe.

    Like the idea though BingoT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmo! View Post
    a) a lot of newer players probably aren't aware that they are going through an affiliate link
    I know a lot of players who never even realised affiliates existed let alone what they could do for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simmo! View Post
    I know casinos don't really like affiliates knowing the players as obviously it means they can continue to market other casinos to them
    Yes, it seems a great idea and could ensure a strong partnership.

    CPA would definately fail but on the MGR system I could imagine it could be great for player, affiliate and the sites.

    I love the idea but I really dont think it could ever happen

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    Affiliates

    Hi folks,

    Just so you know - all affiliates with any reputable casino/poker/ sportsbook is given realtime data about which players they refer and how much they win/ lose etc.

    The affiliates have all the information, however most don't do anything with this data - they seem to be just happy to get the CPA commision or the net Rev and don't even bother to try and incentisise the players they have referred - seems ludicrous to me, especially the affiliates who get revenue from players's play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazlazz View Post
    Hi folks,

    Just so you know - all affiliates with any reputable casino/poker/ sportsbook is given realtime data about which players they refer and how much they win/ lose etc.

    The affiliates have all the information, however most don't do anything with this data - they seem to be just happy to get the CPA commision or the net Rev and don't even bother to try and incentisise the players they have referred - seems ludicrous to me, especially the affiliates who get revenue from players's play!

    Best regards,

    Dazzla
    This is not the case unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazlazz View Post
    Hi folks,

    Just so you know - all affiliates with any reputable casino/poker/ sportsbook is given realtime data about which players they refer and how much they win/ lose etc.

    The affiliates have all the information, however most don't do anything with this data - they seem to be just happy to get the CPA commision or the net Rev and don't even bother to try and incentisise the players they have referred - seems ludicrous to me, especially the affiliates who get revenue from players's play!

    Best regards,

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    That's not true actually. The affiliates are given no personal data about the player, aside from maybe an ID they can use for tracking and in some cases games data/country of origin. The casinos don't want the affiliates to know player identifications for obvious reasons, plus of course it would be a breach of data privacy. The affiliates therefore cannot "incentivise" an existing player unless they has also created their own opt-in mailing list.


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