Robbed again

[Rusty]

Well I have been ripped off again this time by good old William hill.
Played the slots in freeplay woohoo features galore!
Play the slots in real play.....erm where have the scatter symbols gone?
Played that magic carpet slot which award 5 free spins for 3 adjacent scatters...wow was easy in free mode..hit 4 of them twice and retriggers...but suddenly it seems impossible in real money, well not impossible but strangely difficult and when i finally do hit them i get crap!
Same with the frightmare slots, features galore in free mode not a one in real play.

Now if I was a noobie then some bright spark could say
"Tsssk you were just unlucky, that's variance"

But since ive played 100,000's of spins on online slots and hardly ever been on the right side of variance I think I am qualified to say.

WHAT A RIP OFF!

I swear that in my last 20 deposits at various Casinos using different software I have not had better than a 65% return.

Often much less and I doubt my previous 50 deposits went much better.

My theory is that money is being siphened off from some slots and put into the progressive or other jackpot slots.
Nice big headlines when it is won and maintain the overall payout %

Of course that could be a wild accusation and the truth is that the Casinos are juct pocketing the money

If anybody catches me playing again or posting that I have played before this bent industry gets regulated then be kind and shoot me.

[KasinoKing]

Time for another break Rusty mate.

Will Hills (real play) is not rigged.
Well over $2,000 profit from just their $40 monthlies since 2001 proves that to me.
Apart from the fact that Crypto software is just about my favorite.

Fun play may well not reflect real play on many platforms - in particular Cryptos which use your own computers RNG for the games so they can be played off-line. I don't think any software providers publish claimed payout for fun play - so you can't really complain about it.

If you really believe any online casino you visit is 'rigged' please stop playing now. What's the point of playing if they'll never let you win?

KK

[Rusty]

Because I am a martar to the cause

Seriously though they should let me win once in a while it would save both parties some pain.

Just played it on free play again and it is definately a high variance slot but I still did a lot better than for real money and hit a $80 win.

Here is a challenge for you wise free players.
Play magic carpet at 9 lines 10c a line and see if you can lose $150 in 30 mins.
Also you are not allowed to be infront at any time.
Apparently it is easily done in real mode

If a Casino's software does not play the same in free mode as real play then they are misrepresenting their product and obviously this would not be allowed if it were properly regulated.

[Rettahs]

Heck Rusty, I have had a down few months so I just closed the accounts and don't play much anymore except one flash casino and just closed the rivals I was playing at. No sense in chasing a loss man, once it stops being fun it's time to find a new hobby is what I decided. Take care. :-)

[vinylweatherman]

It depends on whether the difference is simply down to using the PC RNG or whether fun mode is deliberately programmed to give an artificially enhanced experience.

PC based RNGs are still essentially random, but run in a predictable cycle using an internal algorithm, and you may well be getting each number in the cycle in turn. With this, the play may seem different, but it should broadly be in line with real mode payout percentage over the long term, and certainly not wildly different.

[I<3Microgaming]

May I remind everyone of this:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-post7407.html

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by I<3Microgaming

May I remind everyone of this:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-post7407.html

Yes, this is a known issue of free play, but the base game should still behave much as it should in real mode, even though the random jackpots get silly. The non jackpot slots should NOT be streaking endlessly just because it is fun mode - this would be misleading.

[Avatar73]

haha yeah... happy days.
Never had so much mickey mouse money at one time!

Until the next time, I won a hand of texas bonus and again won about 1M quid. hmmm, why does this error not carry over to the real casino :P

[Rusty]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

It depends on whether the difference is simply down to using the PC RNG or whether fun mode is deliberately programmed to give an artificially enhanced experience.

PC based RNGs are still essentially random, but run in a predictable cycle using an internal algorithm, and you may well be getting each number in the cycle in turn. With this, the play may seem different, but it should broadly be in line with real mode payout percentage over the long term, and certainly not wildly different.

I see what you are saying and it is a valid point but there is no reason for such sloppy programming that it would allow a random sequence of numbers to be repeated when the game relies on its RNG.
The point is though that freeplay should use the same RNG as real money mode and indeed this will have to be the case come regulation.

[GrandMaster]

Originally Posted by vinylweatherman

It depends on whether the difference is simply down to using the PC RNG or whether fun mode is deliberately programmed to give an artificially enhanced experience.

PC based RNGs are still essentially random, but run in a predictable cycle using an internal algorithm, and you may well be getting each number in the cycle in turn. With this, the play may seem different, but it should broadly be in line with real mode payout percentage over the long term, and certainly not wildly different.

There should be no noticeable difference even with the PC's own built-in RNG. I still have not received a solution to http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post144901 where one of the block is generated by a much simpler procedure than an RNG.