Gambling Sux and I have quit gambling

[Sodax77]

I lost 2k to InetBet in a week playing BJ. I swear to God I have played my last gaming of online gambling. I am also writing my senator to ask to have this regulated or even banned!

Sorry to hear that you had bad luck.

Can you also write that there are few people who care,
like Casinomeister aka Bryan Bailey, who want to help players,
if there is any problem with any online Casino/Poker/etc.
Mostly, free of charge and sometimes, without even "Thanks".

Don't forget mention about Rogue-section, etc,
Where you can find useful information.

[Casinomeister]

Hi
With all respect casinomeister, you are aware of my problem, i have emailed and sent a pm explaining the situation,
Initially when i joined this forum you were away and spearmaster was good enough to assist me with a few questions i had, he suggested that i pich a bitch and i said at this stage it was with the legal begals and i would ask them if pitching a bitch was a good way to go.
My lawyers told me that getting you involved would be considered mediation and we had allready past that point and had commenced legal proceedings, so i told this to spearmaster and asked him to keep the information confidential between you and himself which you have done..

Gotcha. When players PM me or send me an email complaining about a casino. That's fine. It's just that I track the PABs better than my emails and PMs, and the PABs give me the complete information that I need.

Once I get the PAB, that's the go ahead for me to contact the casino, etc. If you have lawyers involved, great - but good luck. But if they (OasisCasino) falls under BetCorp, you might have a good chance for a response from them.

If i won the large amount at a land based casino and was accused of cheating it would be up to the casino to prove what i was doing wrong, count me down find a cheat device etc. In my situation oasis said basic strat and a progressive bet is cheating sorry matter closed (oasis words) and oh yeah were keeping your $1000 dollar deposit leaving me an expensive legal battle to try to recover the winnings i did nothing wrong just played there.

Your deposit needs to be refunded ASAP. If they are considering that your play is null and void, the deposit needs to be returned. You shouldn't need a lawyer to tell them this needs to be returned.

You will never stop online gambling! here in australia the law allready exists to stamp it out completely its just not enforced. here its not illegal for a person to gamble online its illegal for a casino to sign you up, the act even goes right down to prohibiting an isp from letting you see an online casino in your browser, its just not enforced but that may be about to change, currently authorities are investigating if google is breaching the law in regards to casino advertising by letting casino's come up in a search.

Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with protecting players. Australia allows their landbased casinos to go online (Lasseters for one), but they can't take Australian players. Figure that one out. So here we have casinos that are not "off shore" (I hate that term - it's so 90s, and is usually used by people who don't have a clue what they are talking about). And they are covered by solid licensing. It's all about taxes.

Sorry for the long post but unfortunatly i got involved in a situation like a few others whereby the casino not only didnt pay but took my deposit for no real reason at all, its stealing and should be able to be dealt with as such.

gotta blow off a bit of steam sometime.

Well since you're posting this in the forum, it's only fair to point Betcorp/Oasiscasino.com in this direction. They need to take some action on this. Confiscating deposits on a whim is not a good way to go.

[jenn1381]

I'm seeing a rather typical trend in gamblers that I don't like. If you win, you praise the casino to the moon, they are wonderful... and if they actually PAY you, well then they're beyond amazing (as if being paid is a privellege and not a right). When you lose, you scream and cry - rigged software, casino's advertise making me want to play even though I can't afford to, etc. You watch TV, don't you? See all those commercials? What do you think their purpose is? Ever see a commercial for a candy bar or McDonald's and think 'Wow! I could really go for one of those right now'! This is the land of living in the 21st century. Advertising is EVERYWHERE. And yes, it can be very appealing - THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!

What it comes down to is self control. I could easily charge 2k onto a credit card and play to my hearts content, but I don't. Yes, I am tempted, everyday! I went to a land based casino yesterday and I only spent $5, I spent the rest of my time watching my family have fun. I know my limits, and I rarely cross them, and when I do, I learn from it and move on. Part of learning from it is taking a break from gambling of all kinds, to once again realize that I don't NEED it.. I just enjoy it. I will live if I can't gamble this month. Same goes for next month.

You can't blame the casino, the government, or a website such as this for your own short comings. You can't stop, then get help. If you aren't willing to lose, you should never, ever play! It's as simple as that! We all have good months and bad months. It has nothing to do with the casino (as long as you play at reputable casino's, of course. You should absolutely always research a casino before giving them your $), software, etc. You've been unlucky. Deal with it.

Bashing a site such as this in appalling. I've been a member for a while, a lurker until recently, and I've seen not only the meister but this sites members as well bend over backwards for strangers and friends alike. This site is one that will go to bat for you if a casino screws you, taking up their own time, and like has been said before - usually for free and way too often without a simple thank you. People seem to forget that the people around here have lives too, families and friends and jobs. I sure couldn't do what the people around here do. I hope I never have to use their services, but I'm glad to know that it's there should I need it.

[Chatmaster]

I was amazed as read the post. I am sure the author knew exactly what would happen after the post, so surely there must be some kind of objective. Calling your senator is an ironic statement to make as if you complain about lossing a lousy 2k there is no way you will pay any senator to listen to you... To them it is all about money and power nothing else. The internet is truly anoying as it doesn't allow them to play the game of pay politics as freely and they do not have the power they so much crave for. Look at Senator Stevens poor guy thinks he is bigg boss of the world! Shame... It is clear to me that there is currently a huge thing going on in the US because of the elections coming up... The US passed a law last week called "The Hyperlink law" Although the intentions are honorable the law is designed to impress people and will completely be unable to be applied.

Back to the topic... It is a natural phenomina for people to blame other things or other people for their mistakes. It seems denial is a natural instinct. I mean if your kid is watching porn on your computer it is because the of the government allowing it! If your daughter becomes pregnant at age 15 it is the damn TV. If you loose your entire salary on the horses it is the government. Take responsibility for your own F-ups, that is what grown-ups are supposed to do, blaming others is for teenagers You are responsible for loosing the money, your kid watching porn on YOUR computer and so forth!

[soflat]

I'm seeing a rather typical trend in gamblers that I don't like. If you win, you praise the casino to the moon, ...

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You can't blame the casino, the government, or a website such as this for your own short comings.

Sure they can blame the casino. And people have been doing this for years. Ever stand outside a racetrack or casino? It's a steady stream of players either cursing the bad casino/dealer or celebrating their own skill. It is normal to vent.

[jenn1381]

Sorry soflat, I don't see it as "venting". I see it as blaming your addiction on everyone but yourself. If people can't afford to bet on those horses, or spin those reels, then they damn well shouldn't be there doing it. If it's not for entertainment purposes, it's not worth going.

Just because it's been done for years doesn't mean it's not immature and rediculous. No one forces you to play, you have no one to blame but yourself when you lose. I've said it time and time again, gambling is a LOSING game in the long run. If it weren't, it wouldn't be called gambling.

[silcnlayc]

Continued from jenn1381 post....

gambling is a LOSING game in the long run

otherwise we wouldn't see all them purty casinos standing around beckoning us to come in and............................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...............


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[AussieDave]

Sorry soflat, I don't see it as "venting". I see it as blaming your addiction on everyone but yourself. If people can't afford to bet on those horses, or spin those reels, then they damn well shouldn't be there doing it. If it's not for entertainment purposes, it's not worth going.

I'd say people who do not have an addiction and who hold no clue to the mechanics of addiction (in this case gambling), would agree with your opinions above.

Fortunately there are those who although don't have a gambling addiction, have learnt either thru association (friend or family member) or simply researching the subject, that people with an addiction all common sense goes out the window.

Expecting a compulsive gambling addict to adopt the protocols of control which for those of us who don't have a problem do every day, is like cutting your leg open and jumping into a tank of person eating sharks <--- politically correct-| and hold the belief they wont eat you.

In most cases a person with an addiction may know they are in trouble, but, until such time as they actually admit they have a problem (pertaining to your statement above) then they (the gambling addict) is not going to do a damn thing about it.

Sure they'll all feel remorse and probably swear they'll never gamble again, but, nothing changes and the status quo remains until each person hits their own 'rock bottom'.

For some it maybe their of loss employment (sacked) due to time spent gambling, though, for others it may be a total loss of family, assets, friends and even a jail term before they come to realise that they have a gambling addiction and have to seek help.

Unfortunately some compulsive gamblers don't even stop then. Suicide for some is the only way out of their perpetual addiction. Not a very nice realisation in anyone’s language.

Hence and back to my reason for posting a reply, I think people who don't have a gambling addiction should think themselves fortunate.

Most people here are pretty helpful and compassionate when it comes to gambling addictions.

Though as a general note and not aimed at anyone, I’d like to leave this post with this last paragraph.

For those who feel the need to hammer someone who may have an addiction, stop and think for a moment about how shitty a life this person maybe be going thru right now. Instead of kicking them, suggest help, offer links or information to such places as gamblers anonymous or GamCare. Or just take 5 min out of your day to stop and listen. Maybe this will be like water of a ducks back, but, maybe one person will accept your help and take steps to see it thru.

[cheekymonkey]

gam·ble ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gmbl)
v. gam·bled, gam·bling, gam·bles
v. intr.

To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.
To play a game of chance for stakes.
To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit.
To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior.

Think that says it all really.

[lucky21]

Casinomeister:
"Since your posting in this forum its only fair to point betcorp/oasiscasino.com in this direction"

Sorry I havent learnt how to quote properly yet,

I have been in contact with the CEO of betcorp, and his response is that yes he is aware of my problem but that my liability was deliberatly excluded from his purchase of oasis.com so he is saying it is not a betcorp problem, the drama remains with the original owners of oasis.
I am investigating if companies can leave liabilities like this behind but it appears they can and as yet i have been unable to contact the old owners.