Suspicious and Fake Casinos

[Slotmachine]

Hi All,

I thought I'd make a list here. Anyone's free to suggest a casino, and I'll include it in the list. If you see a casino on the list that you know to be a real, honest casino, post a reference and some testimonial about it and I'll consider it for redemption. This is a list where the casinos will not be given the benefit of the doubt...until they prove their worthiness

For those who haven't already, check out Casinomeister's Rogue Casinos section
for a list of the established evildoers.

The Suspicious or Fake casinos list:

homeoffun www.homeoffun.com
topkasino www.topkasino.tk
comets casino www.cometscasino.com

Feel free to add your favorite suspicious casinos or to defend the casinos on the list

Cheers,
SM

[phynqster]

Great idea Slot, but I think it might become mindbogling. Most of these "fake" casinos are acutally affiliate sites that redirect to real casinos. A lot of times the casinos have no idea what the affiliate has set up.

[Andreas]

casinos offer this white label to webmasters for free, like this cometscasino,,, I just posted this in the other tread..
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ino-com-2.html
so they are well aware of this....
right now there are three groups out there what offer free white label to webmasters, and some websites are out there where some white label solutions are being sold...
anyway, behind anyone of those is a group...

from slotmachine..

homeoffun www.homeoffun.com
topkasino www.topkasino.tk
comets casino www.cometscasino.com

those are all using the same template, supplied by AWA for free.. They just offer one template...

other groups even have template engines where you can choose from up to 25 templates, there are some really professionals out there, you would have no chance to tell on first sight...

Good luck
Andreas

[Slotmachine]

Thanks for the info....forget about this list then I dunno nuthin 'bout this affiliate stuff...it shows eh

Cheers,
SM

[Andreas]

I think this thread is a good Idea and of some help... maybe saves some players some money... get them exposed and known...

There were lots of other programs out there what was supplying free white label solutions... like G-Fed, they stopped it because of the reputation they lost and because people trying to sell those things on ebay... But this isn't a thing what only is done with those white labels of casinos, there are hundreds of offers on ebay selling "unique businesses" just taking advantage of poeple who just don't know... That was allways and will allways be...

so keep this going...

Cheers

[Holly]

any site that originates from a "create your own casino" type thing should be avoided.

[Andreas]

Originally Posted by Holly

any site that originates from a "create your own casino" type thing should be avoided.

I agree partly, most of them are just crappy, but I personally know one of the programs offering a white label is very reputable. The templates of this one are great and I know some webmasters what are successfull promoting them...

But it will allways look fishi.... specially then when you download the software and this got a different name in it than the site you downloaded it from......

have a great one
Andreas

[webber286]

I'll add some that I think look really fishy. Don't have much information on them, so they might be fine, but they do have that fish smell.

www.masterclubcasino.com
www.vegasdreamer.com
www.amazoncasino.com
www.fortunebeach.com
www.goldbarscasino.com
www.000crowncasino.com "the most advanced online gambling experience on the planet!"

And, I would agree any of the AWA sites are quite fishy. The exact same template, they just change the name in the header. Hard to trust that.

[Slotmachine]

Here's what a 15-minute investigation revealed:

Originally Posted by webber286

www.masterclubcasino.com

You can only play for fun there Who knows what their installed program does though...a front for Hayes Media which claims to produce online gaming solutions..

www.vegasdreamer.com

This one's funny. The webmasters-link goes to Casino Partners, which lists Tropez, Europa, Hammers, Titan Poker etc. No mention of vegasdreamer though. Looks like it's an RTG casino. However - their game preview is interesting. Check out the Pai Gow poker preview at Vegas Dreamer - see picture below...

www.amazoncasino.com

Well this is something new! Apparently, they're very big, too. And honest! They say so! Their support is handled by casinomail.com...whatever that is. This is from their support pages:

Amazon Casino is FAIR and HONEST!!! The payouts are derived from common games like video poker and video black jack. In fact, we are more liberal than most similar arcade games. We have not, and never will, 'rig' our server to be unfair. We would not jeopardize losing the 55,000 players (and growing) who have joined.

Right, where do I sign up

www.fortunebeach.com

It's the best online casino, they say so! It's made with gamblingbuilders.com software, here's what they offer:

Apply now, it costs only $10! For these $10 a casino with domain name that your choose will be created and you will become that casino's Manager for one year and receive 30% of the profits your casino generates. Your goal is to promote your casino in order to increase your profits.

www.goldbarscasino.com

Very amateurish-looking site. Their software is by worldgaming.com and they claim to be approved by Interactive Gaming Council, whose approved members are Golden Palace, Grand Virtual, Playtech..so pretty much everybody's a member..I'm not familiar with IGC, or worldgaming.com. You won't see me betting there...

www.000crowncasino.com "the most advanced online gambling experience on the planet!"

I clicked on the "help" link. Here's what I got:

Warning: Failed opening 'http://pressaid2.gkg.net/~daniela/inc/misc/about.inc' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear')

I wonder who Daniel is? Or is it Daniela? I think he/she's just starting up the business!

Damn, no signup bonus:

Presently there are no promotions, but keep checking here in the future!

Finally, here's the screenshot from Vegasdreamer.com game preview.

Cheers,
SM

[paul02085]

Originally Posted by webber286

I'll add some that I think look really fishy. Don't have much information on them, so they might be fine, but they do have that fish smell.

www.masterclubcasino.com
www.vegasdreamer.com
www.amazoncasino.com
www.fortunebeach.com
www.goldbarscasino.com
www.000crowncasino.com "the most advanced online gambling experience on the planet!"

And, I would agree any of the AWA sites are quite fishy. The exact same template, they just change the name in the header. Hard to trust that.

1.Whois info-MASTERCLUB CASINO
Registrant:
Hayes International Ltd
BP 66
57 rue Grimaldi
Monaco, NA MC 98002
MC

Registrar: 000DOM
Domain Name: MASTERCLUBCASINO.COM
Created on: 26-OCT-00
Expires on: 26-OCT-06
Last Updated on: 18-NOV-05

Administrative Contact:
Manager, Domain info@masterclubcasino.com
Hayes International Ltd
BP 66
57 rue Grimaldi
Monaco, NA MC 98002
MC
377.97976230

Technical Contact:
Domain, Registration support@000Domains.com
000Domains.com
11807 NE 99th St. Suite 1100
Vancouver, WA 98682
US
1.3602532210
1.3602534234


Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.NAMERESOLVE.COM
NS2.NAMERESOLVE.COM
NS3.NAMERESOLVE.COM
NS4.NAMERESOLVE.COM


2.VEGASDREAMER IS A WINDOWS CLONE OBVIOUSLY.

3.Whois info- AMAZON CASINO
Domain name: AMAZONCASINO.COM

Registrant Contact:
NA
CYBER BUSINESS HOLDINGS LTD. (CYBERBUSINESSHOLDINGS@YAHOO.COM)

Fax:
MAIN STREET #92
N/A
CHARLESTON, WI 99999
AG

Administrative Contact:
NA
NET WEBMASTER (CYBERBUSINESSHOLDINGS@YAHOO.COM)
+1.8694690701
Fax:
MAIN STREET #92
N/A
CHARLESTON, WI 99999
AG

Technical Contact:
NA
NET WEBMASTER (CYBERBUSINESSHOLDINGS@YAHOO.COM)
+1.8694690701
Fax:
MAIN STREET #92
N/A
CHARLESTON, WI 99999
AG

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
NS1.HARPINC.NET
NS2.HARPINC.NET

Creation date: 04 Jun 1998 00:00:00
Expiration date: 03 Jun 2007 00:00:00
Whois-Services: 3c56d32a-d42c-4492-be74-0841871d43db@whois-services.com


4. Whois info- FORTUNE BEACH CASINO
Domain Name: FORTUNEBEACH.COM

Registrant:
DotWorld MDS
Stanislav Devyatovskiy (serge@itpremium.com)
Volhovstroya 81-83
Omsk
null,644033
RU
Tel. +7.9029738356

Creation Date: 01-Dec-2002
Expiration Date: 01-Dec-2006

Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.itpremium.com
ns2.itpremium.com
ns3.itpremium.com


Administrative Contact:
DotWorld MDS
Stanislav Devyatovskiy (serge@itpremium.com)
Volhovstroya 81-83
Omsk
null,644033
RU
Tel. +7.9029738356

Technical Contact:
DotWorld MDS
Stanislav Devyatovskiy (serge@itpremium.com)
Volhovstroya 81-83
Omsk
null,644033
RU
Tel. +7.9029738356

Billing Contact:
DotWorld MDS
Stanislav Devyatovskiy (serge@itpremium.com)
Volhovstroya 81-83
Omsk
null,644033
RU
Tel. +7.9029738356

Status:ACTIVE


5. Whois info- GOLD BARS CASINO
Domain Name: GOLD-BARS-CASINO.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
Name Server: DNS.CITYWEBSITES.COM
Name Server: DNS.EGAMINGDEVELOPERS.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 01-nov-2005
Creation Date: 23-nov-2000
Expiration Date: 23-nov-2006
(I THINK THIS ONE IS OWNED MY SOME OF MY FORMER GIRLFRIENDS)

6. Whois info- 000CROWNCASINO
Registrant:
Micro Aquatics
Micro Aquatics
P.O. Box 642
Charlestown, West Indies KN
KN
+1.541145160473 (FAX) +1.541145160474
15976@whois.gkg.net

Administrative Contact:
Micro Aquatics
Micro Aquatics
P.O. Box 642
Charlestown, West Indies KN
KN
+1.541145160473 (FAX) +1.541145160474
15976@whois.gkg.net

Technical Contact:
Micro Aquatics
Micro Aquatics
P.O. Box 642
Charlestown, West Indies KN
KN
+1.541145160473 (FAX) +1.541145160474
15976@whois.gkg.net

Billing Contact
Micro Aquatics
Micro Aquatics
P.O. Box 642
Charlestown, West Indies KN
KN
+1.541145160473 (FAX) +1.541145160474
15976@whois.gkg.net

Registrar..: gkg.net (http://register.gkg.net/)
Domain Name: 000CROWNCASINO.COM
Created on..............: 11-FEB-2000
Expires on..............: 11-FEB-2007
Record last updated on..: 22-NOV-2005
Status..................: ACTIVE

Domain servers in listed order:

NS1.INTERACTIVEG.COM
NS2.INTERACTIVEG.COM