Your online slot statistics are required....

[Shyguy]

Hello to all!

With permission from CM himself I have been allowed to request your help with my new site xxhttp://www.slotistics.com which is looking to collect as many statistics regarding online stats as possible.

There has always been doubt and question marks over RTP's so I have designed a form that can be completed with info such as total staked, total won or lost, cost per spin, free spins won, bonus games won etc.. I then compile this info into a spreadsheet which then gives us a players RTP and some more stats, depending on how well this goes I will look to produce more and more stats and hopefully soon, perhaps even RTP's per slot machine.

I have so far collected about 120 playing stats, mostly from myself playing and collated the data, this info can be seen on the site but I will be happy to place on the forum here if I get enough guinea pigs! Results so far are quite interesting with only two platforms actually going over the 70% RTP mark, our stats also currently show that RTG provide more free spins per dollar than others - BUT - It's still not enough and I need as much data as possible to make it as accurate as possible.

I know that there is room to manipulate our data so I will be looking for any very strange patterns occurring, but obviously, the more honest you are the more honest the stats will be. The downside to the form is that you have to enter an e-mail address. Whilst your addresses will be in my inbox I will not be using them for any statistics or as a way of sending you any crap. If this does worry you I will be happy to create a few e-mail accounts and passwords for you to use to send the stats to me. All separate stats will be kept private. I will not be posting "Holy shit - maxd won $7000 yesterday!"

So far I have collated some data for May but I hope that in the coming months and years that I can provide graphs and charts to show any differences in the RTP's over those periods to give us a better look at which platform and possibly slot machine is performing better than others.

This is totally new and I am open to all suggestions, I hope to upgrade the form regularly to include other things that anyone feels should be measured. Re-trigger rate and total win versus actual stake are two that have been mentioned. There is currently room for varied stakes but this will take a little time in producing. IE Do 20 cent spins produce better RTP's than $1 spins.

I hope you will find this an interesting project and hope that many of you will join in. As I mentioned previously I am open to all suggestions regarding slots statistics so a brain storming session here at CM would be very helpful.

Many thanks to all in advance!

ShyGuy

[silcnlayc]

So how do we go about sending you our logs? Do we request these logs from the casino? I have requested them a few trimes without success from different casinos . How does one get them if the casino ignores you ?

I would love to send inmy logs of the past if they are still avvailable. I think it is a GREAT project!

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[Shyguy]

If you do not get any joy from the casinos (Most don't) Then I recommend you do the following, it worked for me, can be a bit confusing at first but you soon get the hang of it.

You basically jot down down....


Software Company.
Slot machine.
Your starting total stake.
Amount of spins. (That's the hardest part)
Amount of free spins you win or don't.
Amount of bonus games you win or don't.
Total in account at end of session. IE you start with $25, you spin 126 times, and leave the slot with $4.00

The part on "spins you make" is something I have to implement into the form as at the moment we are only working on % per $.

The form is on the site on the left menu, still a very small site.

[RobWin]

Software RTP's May 2010.

Rival 66.15%
RTG 50.13%
Cryptologic 64.22%
Playtech 82.22%
Microgaming 70.40%
Top Game 64.49%
Boss Media n/a%

That's a sad, sad state of affairs there if you ask me...

I think you should also add to this table how many respondents this, these stats are from or how many sessions they are based on.
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[Jasminebed]

Shyguy, I appreciate your efforts, I really do. But that is too much like work for me, I'm sorry. I want my slot play to be relaxing, not note-taking.

There was a thread recently where a number of us did just that http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...-me-bonus.html

While it was an interesting exercise, it is not something I want to do on a regular basis. I gather this is the type of thing you are looking for.

I hope you find some volunteers.

[Pinababy69]

I think it's an outstanding idea Shyguy, and many thanks for undertaking it.

That thread that Jasminebed mentioned I started...but honestly, haven't really played RTG since then, which is why I haven't added to it. But I will be playing one night this week, and will make sure to keep track of everything. I always do this for RTG anyway, solely because most of the time I use a bonus, and that's how I track my playthrough.

Unfortunately, when I play MG or 3Dice, I generally don't track spins as much, because it's usually bonus free play.

But super idea.

EDIT: The thread that Jazzie referenced? Feel free to grab my stats out of there if you'd like, they are pretty detailed.

[Shyguy]

Thanks for the great feed back so far guys and girls.

So far I have only collected 120 ish sets of stats which is not enough to paint a fair picture.

I do feel It is a lot of work for players to start taking notes but even if you sent in one set each month it would be enough. I really want to get a full on picture and even if I only collect 200 stats from 200 players in one month it will give me something worth sharing.

There does not have to be a minimum either, some of my stats are only from $8 sessions where some have won and some have lost, different sections on sessions, IE $0-$50 and $51-$100 wagered is something I will look to do at a later date.

I really appreciate the feedback though, and already I can see where I can make improvements.

[Shyguy]

Thanks Pinababy I will look to take them onboard and add to our tables.

[Jasminebed]

Please feel free to use mine from that thread as well.

[ksech]

You are more than welcome to use my stats also, there are two posts detaling spin counts/wins/bonuses/features etc. The last post contains times of day the games were played (not sure if that will be relevant for you) and the rest before I busted out.