The BitchMeister Blog: it's New! Improved! Old-Fashioned!

[maxd]

Hello everyone, MaxD here. Most of you know already me as the Pitch-A-Bitch guy here at Casinomeister but if that's news to you then feel free to enlighten yourself by having a read through the Pitch-A-Bitch FAQ.

One of the features we have here at Casinomeister is that members can create their own blogs (see Link Outdated / Removed in the gold colored navigation bar up near the top of your page (see the attached image for details)).

So, I've re-tooled my old blog to create a new one, Link Outdated / Removed, wherein I'll post a couple times a week about what's going on in the wild and wooly world of PABs (PAB = Pitch-A-Bitch).

Normally all of the PAB stuff goes on privately and behind the scenes but we thought it would be a good idea to let folks know what's news worthy with the PABs and the blog forum seems an ideal venue for that.

Of course the privacy of the PAB issues is very important so I won't be divulging any of that sort of thing on the blog, but there's still lots happening there that we can talk about and should be of interest to readers.

Due to the nature of the subject matter I have disabled comments in the new blog. Sorry if this is an inconvenience but it seemed prudent to go that route, at least for the time being.

So, there it is, I hope you find the new blog of interest. If you have any suggestions, recommendations, general PAB related questions, etc here is probably a good place to field those so fire away.
(Please note though that I don't expect to discuss specific PABs here so posts of that sort will pretty much be ignored: this isn't the place for that.)

 

[The Dude]

Perhaps the MuppetMeister could start one of his own

 

[maxd]

Just posted an update to the BitchMeister Blog. This time talking a bit about the ongoing "War on Fraud" at the Rushmore group: Link Outdated / Removed

Fraudsters Beware!

 

[maxd]

Just posted: Link Outdated / Removed

 

[silcnlayc]

Ok, I will own up to the fact that when I first saw this, I said GREAT! no more searching for the end results to a lot of the complaints..I will be a regular to this area...and love the "To the Point" post.... Now, how about some in depth stuff on the "who,what,where,why" on the final results done if possible..

Like the old PABs resolved, etc: 5, which ones were they, what were they etc..is this possible to expand when completed or would that be too much?

Thanks, either way for posting these..

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[maxd]

The whole idea was to keep it short and snappy, but I'll think about ways to add a little detail to the "resolved" section ... provided it doesn't bloat out the effort involved in posting.

No detail will be added to the "new" section though: I think it's unfair to dump that info until the issues have been looked into. It's too easy to get the wrong impression from the raw data on new PABs.

 

[silcnlayc]

No detail will be added to the "new" section though

Agreed, not interested in the new stuff..only how the ending happened..and short and sweet to them is ok too.. Like a bullet report as you did...

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[heatherad]

The whole idea was to keep it short and snappy, but I'll think about ways to add a little detail to the "resolved" section ... provided it doesn't bloat out the effort involved in posting.

No detail will be added to the "new" section though: I think it's unfair to dump that info until the issues have been looked into. It's too easy to get the wrong impression from the raw data on new PABs.

Are the females of Casinomeister allowed to start a Newsletter called *The B*tchesofCasinomeister*? Just curious

 

[maxd]

Are the females of Casinomeister allowed to start a Newsletter called *The B*tchesofCasinomeister*? Just curious

Go for it! However mugshots of said fems in their best rapper bling will be required.

 

[heatherad]

Go for it! However mugshots of said fems in their best rapper bling will be required.

Hmm, you just gave me an idea there with the best rapper bling
Could have a section each week with pics of theme night. Like best imagination of a toga night theme, best outfit made from candy wrappers theme.....you get the idea right?

 

[maxd]

Just posted a quick post-ICE bit on the Link Outdated / Removed. Nothing major, just a few quick comments, a big "thanks" to the friends and associates we hung out with in London, and a few other bits 'n' bobs.

 

[maxd]

Belated Friday report just posted Link Outdated / Removed, including:

• old Warning revisited: Casino Las Vegas
• new Warning posted: Golden Lounge
• the Numbers: 8/4/2

Enjoy!

 

[maxd]

The Bitchmeister Weekly is up!

This week: Rushmore Nabs 'Em, Golden Lounge Steps Up, and The Numbers get scary.

Read it! Link Outdated / Removed

 

[maxd]

Latest Friday update posted: Link Outdated / Removed.

Nothing earth-shattering, The Numbers slightly retooled based on reader feedback. Please post comments here, if you are so inclined.

 

[maxd]

Last Friday's weekly report just posted (oopsy!): Link Outdated / Removed.

Summary:

• Rushmore Group fraud investigations expand, expect delays.
• PAB levels still elevated.

Comments are disabled on the BitchMeister blog itself, feel free to comment here as needs be.

 

[WD2810]

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  (16th Jan) The Rushmore group -- Rushmore, Cherry Red, Slots Oasis -- is running a massive fraud investigation these past couple weeks and we're starting to see the fallout from that.
  Thus far no final conclusions are available from the group re: the PABs but we do expect and have been promised that each PAB will be addressed in due course.
  (13rd Feb) Ok, their investigation is finally starting to produce some results and they're pretty damned interesting....
  (23rd Feb) In particular no news on the Rushmore front: investigation still ongoing AFAIK.
  (3rd March) Rushmore Group fraud investigations expand, expect delays.

I sense a pattern here, the same kind that fraudsters have used for ages. E.g. you buy car parts from eBay and send money first. A week goes by but you don't receive anything from the seller. "My supplier had problems, but you will have it soon." Another week passes. "You haven't got it? I sent it days ago. It must have gotten lost in mail. Let me contact the post office." Now it's been a month. The seller doesn't answer your emails anymore.

Fraudsters always offer new excuses until things get too hot and that's when they disappear with your money. Rushmore has owed me over $5k since last Christmas. Everytime I ask for my money, I either get no answer at all, or "we're investigating" is all they have to say. No timeframe whatsoever as to the lenght of the investigation is provided.

Have you ever questioned the integrity of Rushmore in this "investigation"? Do you think this is standard business practice and example how customers should be dealt with? Because Rushmore is still in your Accredited Casinos list and I haven't seen a single warning anywhere about this site.

 

[The Dude]

I sense a pattern here, the same kind that fraudsters have used for ages. E.g. you buy car parts from eBay and send money first. A week goes by but you don't receive anything from the seller. "My supplier had problems, but you will have it soon." Another week passes. "You haven't got it? I sent it days ago. It must have gotten lost in mail. Let me contact the post office." Now it's been a month. The seller doesn't answer your emails anymore.

Fraudsters always offer new excuses until things get too hot and that's when they disappear with your money. Rushmore has owed me over $5k since last Christmas. Everytime I ask for my money, I either get no answer at all, or "we're investigating" is all they have to say. No timeframe whatsoever as to the lenght of the investigation is provided.

Have you ever questioned the integrity of Rushmore in this "investigation"? Do you think this is standard business practice and example how customers should be dealt with? Because Rushmore is still in your Accredited Casinos list and I haven't seen a single warning anywhere about this site.

A small group of fraudsters can ruin things for a lot of people - especially legitimate players. That's why we come down so hard on them.

This casino group was over run by a number of fraudsters in December-January, and a full investigation has been in process since then. I explained this in my latest video - and it's some serious fraud stuff that affects us all.
'The investigations include hiring private detectives that are assigned to contact the players to ensure they are real people who have participated in the casino. If they are, they are paid - no problem. If they don't have an idea what's going on, then it's a unquestionable incident of identity theft.

Fraudsters buy or steal people's identity to open bogus accounts. This is something that should concern everyone. If you are owed funds from these guys, and are a legit player, then you'll get paid. You just need to be patient and direct your frustration at the a-holes who rip off other peoples' IDs.

 

[maxd]

The new report is up: Link Outdated / Removed.

A new Hall of Shame (aka Casinomeister Warning) entry, Rushmore continues, and The Numbers: 4/3/1/2/6/1

Enjoy!

~Max.

 

[WD2810]

A small group of fraudsters can ruin things for a lot of people - especially legitimate players. That's why we come down so hard on them.

This casino group was over run by a number of fraudsters in December-January, and a full investigation has been in process since then. I explained this in my latest video - and it's some serious fraud stuff that affects us all.

What I'm getting at here is that people view you as mainly a "casino watchdog and player advocate". And by you not questioning Rushmore's methods anyway you've effectively given casinos free pass to delay big cashouts by monthts using investigations as a smoke screen. What you seem to be saying is that you don't care about players not getting due process, or it's "let ten innocent people get hurt if one guilty one can be caught".

During this time of financial crisis I am extremely wary of keeping four figure sums anywhere online. What you imply is that when banks and whole countries are crushing down I should just trust these online casinos that when they hijack my money, they're actually running an investigation.

Rushmore's actions here have been a disgrace to what good customer service means. They never contacted me, they just didn't pay my cashouts. I had to figure out myself that there was an "investigation" because they couldn't even inform me of that. I have repeatedly offered to provide evidence that I am a honest player, or for them to at least provide a shred of evidence to prove otherwise, but they haven't so much as called me in the process. Great detective work indeed.

I would like to see a little more of that player's advocate and especially casino watchdog stuff, than just blindfoldedly accepting everything a casino does.

 

[The Dude]

What I'm getting at here is that people view you as mainly a "casino watchdog and player advocate". And by you not questioning Rushmore's methods anyway you've effectively given casinos free pass to delay big cashouts by monthts using investigations as a smoke screen. What you seem to be saying is that you don't care about players not getting due process, or it's "let ten innocent people get hurt if one guilty one can be caught".

Sorry, I disagree with you. There is no "free pass". I am in direct contact with the casino. I've met them face to face over this. And I understand the dilemmas of operating an online casino. And I understand what it is to be a player. Just because I don't explain every minute detail of my decision making process doesn't mean I'm making these decisions without a care.

There was massive fraud committed at this casino. I've seen the reports from the UK private detectives who investigated these players. It was all legit. If you think I'm bullshitting you, well that's your prerogative. Just because I tell certain players what they don't want to hear does not make me wrong or not an advocate for the player. I am more an advocate for fairness by the way. And fairness is a two way street.

I would like to see a little more of that player's advocate and especially casino watchdog stuff, than just blindfoldedly accepting everything a casino does.

So you think I'm sitting here with a blindfold wrapped around my head, my fingers typing away - moved by the strings of my puppet masters. Nice

I do what I can to provide a level playing ground. Fair is fair. If you have a pending PAB, I'll check up on on this and see if it can't be expedited.

As for "casino watchdog" stuff, we have warnings posted nearly every week in our forum - exposs on the webcast and newsletters. Unfortunately, player fraud has been on the upswing so you are going to see more reports on that. That's just the way it is. Don't shoot the messenger.

Or do you feel I should ignore player fraud and just put the blinders on?

 

[WD2810]

Just because I don't explain every minute detail of my decision making process doesn't mean I'm making these decisions without a care.

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I've seen the reports from the UK private detectives who investigated these players. It was all legit. If you think I'm bullshitting you, well that's your prerogative. Just because I tell certain players what they don't want to hear does not make me wrong or not an advocate for the player.

After reading all this I can say I believe you now. But this is not what I've been reading so far. The only thing I have been able to read (since Rushmore has not replied anything) has been MaxD's updates. And each week all he has to say i "well they're investigating, we'll see what happens". It's hardly been convincing that you're pressing all you can so that honest players get their money.

There's what you're doing and there is what it appears that you're doing. Here those two have been two very different things, apparently. This whole investigation has been conducted so shadily that there has been no way for the customer to check it's validity.

Or do you feel I should ignore player fraud and just put the blinders on?

Definitely not. But you're a players advocate. You don't really see consumer advocate groups trying to help supermarkets cut down shoplifting. What you see is consumer advocates pressing the issue, if a supermarket's security system provides false positives and innocent people get harassed by security.

In this case Rushmore and their sister casino's had very lucrative Christmas bonuses that they offered. They should've anticipated that it's going to draw attention and probably fraudsters as well, and tighten their security so that no fraud is possible. I personally have sent Rushmore my full contact information and social security number, and color copies of my passport and a recent VISA bill with my registered address printed on it. They acknowledged that the documents are in order (before this whole investigation stuff started). I used my personal Moneybookers account both for the deposits and withdrawals. Now, what more is there to investigate and why am I not getting paid?

 

[maxd]

After reading all this I can say I believe you now. But this is not what I've been reading so far. ... Now, what more is there to investigate and why am I not getting paid?

As much as I understand your frustration I do not see what grounds you have to question the integrity of the services we are offering here.

First of all there are the reams of cases that we solve month by month: see Past PABs. If your complaint is that you're still one of the present issues and not one of the past issues well, hey, we're working on it aren't we? Look at the solved cases and think how well we do our job and how happy you'll be to see your case on that list soon.

As to how hard we are pressing etc etc, no offense but how would you know? If you don't like my weekly updates then don't read them but if you are reading them then read them. If you do actually read them I think you'll see that I'm getting just as frustrated with this as you are and I'm saying so in my communiques with Rushmore. Of course you're not privy to those but there's no reason to assume they're not happening because they most certainly are.

And you "believe us now"?!? So what, you thought we were bullshitting you before? Why would you think that? What is it _exactly_ about the cases we solve and the piles of PABs that we get that would have you thinking we were lying to you, because that's what you're implying.

I can understand someone saying "gee, this is taking a long time, bummer" Or "boy, you guys are really pouring a lot into this one, thanks for staying on top of case" or somesuch. You know, a "thanks and keep on it!" kind of thing. That would be polite, gentle pressure and not at all a slap in the face which, sorry to say, is how your posts above read.

I guess what I'm saying is show a little respect. I've poured more time into these Rushmore cases than the average PAB and it looks like it's going to continue on a bit before it's over. How exactly that warrants you giving us a hard time and breathing down our necks I don't see at all.

 

[WD2810]

And you "believe us now"?!? So what, you thought we were bullshitting you before? Why would you think that? What is it _exactly_ about the cases we solve and the piles of PABs that we get that would have you thinking we were lying to you, because that's what you're implying..

There's a language barrier here as I don't write in English that often, plus the usual challenge of non-verbal communication. No reason to jump into conclusions.

Maybe "believe" was a poor verb to choose, I simply meant that you had not provided much information as to the extent of pressure that was directed at Rushmore by you. Now I have more information and I am more satisfied with how things have been handled.

Also, perhaps your blog entries included something that could've been read between the lines, but it's better now that it's clearly laid out.

I don't aim to be disrespectful for sure, but it's hard to be very polite and still get the message through. I try to do my best.

 

[Artico]

A small group of fraudsters can ruin things for a lot of people - especially legitimate players. That's why we come down so hard on them.

This casino group was over run by a number of fraudsters in December-January, and a full investigation has been in process since then. I explained this in my latest video - and it's some serious fraud stuff that affects us all.
'The investigations include hiring private detectives that are assigned to contact the players to ensure they are real people who have participated in the casino. If they are, they are paid - no problem. If they don't have an idea what's going on, then it's a unquestionable incident of identity theft.

Thing is that they have never asked ANY extra information, just saying they are investigating. I have send them emails telling that Im willing to give them any info they need. And that private investigation is kinda funny Im not sure there even is private investigators in country where I live.

I have very similar experiences with WD2810 and I think the way they handle this is just rubbish. 12 weeks and my case could be handled in 5 minutes if they just wanted it.

 

[maxd]

FWIW, asking you guys for info is not (generally speaking) what this investigation is about. Nor is the nature of the investigation such that it can be done "in five minutes". From what we know of the process their approach and the time it is taking are not inappropriate.

Does this inconvenience some of you? Surely! Would we all be happier if this wasn't necessary? Certainly! Will everyone be satisfied with what they're doing and how they've done it? Almost certainly not!

But that's all rather beside the point. The point is that they are performing a thorough and conclusive investigation that seems reasonable TO US under the circumstances, at least to a point. When that process concludes you will get paid or you won't depending on what results they dig up.

How do I know this? Because we've already seem some results. Some players have been cleared by the investigation and have been paid. Other have been identified as frauds and have not been paid. And so it goes. Like it or lump it that's where we are at.

I will say this though, if the investigation drags on much longer we will have to seriously consider issuing a public warning for players to expect delays at Rushmore casinos. Whether that will actually be necessary or not will become obvious soon enough.

So there it is. Complaints and bluster aside you now have as much information on the process as is likely to be publicly available before the investigation process concludes. Don't like it? Fine, understandable, write the casino about it! But I hope it's clear by now that chiding us for failure to do our job is way, way off base here.

 

[maxd]

After discussing this with B I think what we'll do instead of the Warning is contact the affected members en-masse with the status reports as appropriate. No one else seems to be having a problem except for the PAB guys who are caught up in the investigation. For everyone else, it's business as usual.

 

[Artico]

How do I know this? Because we've already seem some results. Some players have been cleared by the investigation and have been paid. Other have been identified as frauds and have not been paid. And so it goes. Like it or lump it that's where we are at.

I will say this though, if the investigation drags on much longer we will have to seriously consider issuing a public warning for players to expect delays at Rushmore casinos. Whether that will actually be necessary or not will become obvious soon enough.
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Thank you for your post maxd. Very infomatical post once again. Could you tell are those people who have been paid PABers or what. Since I havent heard people getting paid on other forums who have PABed.

I think that public warning would be good idea because this has taken so much time. I understand investigation taking time but almost two and half month is out the line.You can lose tens of percents on currency conversion for example!

 

[peteyweestro]

hey Bryan or Max, does these investigations affect people that just made their first deposit at rushmore? Because i just did and want to know if i should expect huge delays if i cash out ?

 

[maxd]

I'll look into that and post back here ...

Ok, looks like the answer is no, there does not appear to be a 'first deposit' pattern here.

 

[The Dude]

hey Bryan or Max, does these investigations affect people that just made their first deposit at rushmore? Because i just did and want to know if i should expect huge delays if i cash out ?

The casino flagged a number of accounts and have been investigating these on a one-on-one manner. So far they identified the suspected UK accounts as fraud (identity theft), and they are awaiting word from the investigators in the continent.

It has nothing at all to do with anyone else but these players. People are signing up at these casinos from here every day without a problem.

 

[The Dude]

Thank you for your post maxd. Very infomatical post once again. Could you tell are those people who have been paid PABers or what. Since I havent heard people getting paid on other forums who have PABed.

I think that public warning would be good idea because this has taken so much time. I understand investigation taking time but almost two and half month is out the line.You can lose tens of percents on currency conversion for example!

Like I just mentioned - the batch of UK PABs were identified as fraud. Finland, Hungary, and the Netherlands are next. You have to understand that this is very meticulous and time consuming.

As for a warning, why? What would you suggest the warning to be? This does not affect anyone but those who had their accounts flagged as suspicious.

 

[Artico]

Like I just mentioned - the batch of UK PABs were identified as fraud. Finland, Hungary, and the Netherlands are next. You have to understand that this is very meticulous and time consuming.

As for a warning, why? What would you suggest the warning to be? This does not affect anyone but those who had their accounts flagged as suspicious.

First they quoted wrong t&c and locked my account because of that. Then they say my Moneybookers is under investigation and that case is already solved. I wonder what is their third excuse. Maybe that I live in Europe

I think there is more than enough reasons for warning, treating their customers like that and doing punch of mistakes.

 

[maxd]

New report is up, Link Outdated / Removed, featuring:

• Casino Club VS realplayer
• Rushmore investigation ongoing .. still!
• The Numbers, of course

Enjoy!

 

[peteyweestro]

glad to hear it, thanks max and bryan

 

[Artico]

Great thing is that they still remember to send mails about their promos. Another great 100% up to 1000$ BJ bonus, just like Christmas. I think it is a little suspicious that they continue doing big bonuses. Learnt nothing from the past!

I just dont get it, they are saying they are facing huge amount of fraudsters and then doing another big promo. What a mess

 

[The Dude]

Great thing is that they still remember to send mails about their promos. Another great 100% up to 1000$ BJ bonus, just like Christmas. I think it is a little suspicious that they continue doing big bonuses. Learnt nothing from the past!

I just dont get it, they are saying they are facing huge amount of fraudsters and then doing another big promo. What a mess

Offering promos and getting hit up by fraudsters have nothing to do with each other.

If you have a complaint, I would appreciate it if you'd start another thread.

 

[Louise]

Great thing is that they still remember to send mails about their promos. Another great 100% up to 1000$ BJ bonus, just like Christmas. I think it is a little suspicious that they continue doing big bonuses. Learnt nothing from the past!

I just dont get it, they are saying they are facing huge amount of fraudsters and then doing another big promo. What a mess

We've been offering 100% bonuses on the weekends every weekend since our casinos have been in existence.

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

 

[maxd]

Your latest BitchMeister Blog report is up: "Bit of a slow week, all things considered. The PAB numbers continue to trickle in modestly, a sharp decline from the deluge of recent past months. A few updates on old stories and The Numbers:"
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[The Dude]

Just a heads up that we're getting more results in from the Rushmore PABs

Embalu
ether
penge348

have given false and misleading information to open their casino accounts. Thus, they have been banned from the forum...forever.

Two other members were using Embalu's computer in this forum, thus they've been banned as well: Mario77, Joska.

The Finnish players are still "works in progress". We'll keep you updated...

 

[maxd]

The latest BitchMeister Blog weekly summary is up! New bad-boys, results from Rushmore and some funky Numbers for you:

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Enjoy!

 

[Artico]

Another week goes by and nothing from Rushmore This case is now more than 3 months old...

 

[The Dude]

Another week goes by and nothing from Rushmore This case is now more than 3 months old...

Well, to repeat myself - the Finish players are being investigated. Hopefully you'll have better luck than the UK players and the ones from Hungary.

It's been explained to you that what they are doing is time consuming. No matter how much you complain on the message boards - I don't think it will affect the speed in which the private investigators work.

 

[NextToYou]

Hopefully Rushmore will compensate these legit players adequately who have been waiting for more than 3 months for their cash outs.

 

[Tengil]

Another week goes by and nothing from Rushmore This case is now more than 3 months old...

Agree this is beyond ridiculous. Also many verified (docs approved) accounts are on hold.

Also saw that back in January they tried to pull some stunts to a couple of players. They claimed that they have played disallowed games. They had played BJ with the BJ coupons.. They later reversed their decision and the accounts in question are still on hold, very professional

So as I see it this is nothing else than plain and simple stalling. They must have been hit for a couple of hundred thousands.

Hope you have taken screenshots of the coupons you claimed from the cashier. Just in case..

 

[vinylweatherman]

Well, to repeat myself - the Finish players are being investigated. Hopefully you'll have better luck than the UK players and the ones from Hungary.

It's been explained to you that what they are doing is time consuming. No matter how much you complain on the message boards - I don't think it will affect the speed in which the private investigators work.

The problem might be that what we are being told doesn't tally with the length of time taken.

Players have been told that all that stands between them and payment is receiving a contact from these private investigators to confirm they are legitimate.

Obviously, they have given their full details to the casino, so it's a case of the private investigators going to the address and making contact, confirming that the person at the registered address is a player there, rather than a hapless victim of a stolen identity. Well, this is the process as has been revealed. Surely, once an address is known, it shouldn't take so long to arrange a visit. The preliminaries should be even easier, as many things like credit reference checks can be done over secure internet connections. When I have applied for things like credit cards, these standard checks have been done whilst I "hold the line".

3 months and more is simply too long for the above simple process, assuming that an EFFICIENT team of private investigators has been engaged. Perhaps Rushmore could publicise a few more figures so that affected players can understand why it is taking so long simply to arrange a verification visit to their address. There have been so few complaints about this that it would seem only a relatively small number of players are affected, even though they are generating quite a bit of "noise".

There must be other casinos hit by the same fraud, but there does not seem to be an issue of them taking months to pay their legitimate players. Have Rushmore asserted that this is some kind of unique fraud model that has not ocurred before, and is particularly difficult to resolve.

From the webcast, I have gathered that this fraud was based around hotels and photocopies of passports. This is not unique, and the scam that hit Rushmore will most likely be tried again elsewhere with the information that has already escaped into the black market. It may already be happening, and going largely undetected because casinos do not yet know what to look for.

 

[Tengil]

The problem might be that what we are being told doesn't tally with the length of time taken.

Players have been told that all that stands between them and payment is receiving a contact from these private investigators to confirm they are legitimate.

Obviously, they have given their full details to the casino, so it's a case of the private investigators going to the address and making contact, confirming that the person at the registered address is a player there, rather than a hapless victim of a stolen identity. Well, this is the process as has been revealed. Surely, once an address is known, it shouldn't take so long to arrange a visit. The preliminaries should be even easier, as many things like credit reference checks can be done over secure internet connections. When I have applied for things like credit cards, these standard checks have been done whilst I "hold the line".

3 months and more is simply too long for the above simple process, assuming that an EFFICIENT team of private investigators has been engaged. Perhaps Rushmore could publicise a few more figures so that affected players can understand why it is taking so long simply to arrange a verification visit to their address. There have been so few complaints about this that it would seem only a relatively small number of players are affected, even though they are generating quite a bit of "noise".
There must be other casinos hit by the same fraud, but there does not seem to be an issue of them taking months to pay their legitimate players. Have Rushmore asserted that this is some kind of unique fraud model that has not ocurred before, and is particularly difficult to resolve.

From the webcast, I have gathered that this fraud was based around hotels and photocopies of passports. This is not unique, and the scam that hit Rushmore will most likely be tried again elsewhere with the information that has already escaped into the black market. It may already be happening, and going largely undetected because casinos do not yet know what to look for.

Not quite true. This forum is mainly for slot players. So you cant get the whole picture by just reading this forum.

 

[kmay87]

Not quite true. This forum is mainly for slot players. So you cant get the whole picture by just reading this forum.

What makes you think that?

 

[Tengil]

What makes you think that?

By reading it.

Edit: maybe recreational players would have been more correct. Dont think that there are many here that play large stickies

 

[maxd]

Another week goes by and nothing from Rushmore....

I'm not saying that the Rushmore situation is wonderful but your claim isn't even close to being true, as you would know if you'd been reading my posts.

To recap, we've closed out at least four Rushmore cases in the past few weeks. No matter how you slice it that is not "nothing".

Or perhaps you were speaking about your own particular case. If so it would have been good of you to say so instead of trying to paint the whole issue with your particular brush.

 

[The Dude]

By reading it.

Edit: maybe recreational players would have been more correct. Dont think that there are many here that play large stickies

Well you're obviously reading this forum with tunnel vision blinders on. Sure there are a lot of slot players here. There's a crapload of BJ and VP players as well. Don't forget the affiliates, the casino reps, the advantage players, bonus baggers, fraudsters, bingo freaks and lurkers.

You can't lump the membership into one bunch. To do this simplifies and cheapens what this forum has to offer the entire gaming community.

I'm not saying that the Rushmore situation is wonderful but your claim isn't even close to being true, as you would know if you'd been reading my posts...

Again - tunnel-vision. It would be nice to see certain members adding something else to this forum besides their complaints.