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    Quote Originally Posted by jolub View Post
    I don't get it. The federal government doesn't want online gambling but these sites don't give a d*mn about that. But they do care about state law. This makes no sense to me. Go figure.
    Some people in the Federal Government do not want online gambling, not everyone and online gambling is not against any federal Law. Even though some in the current federl government would like you to think different. The federal laws (UGIEA and Wire Act of 1969 do not forbid online gambling with the exception of sports betting)
    But those states that are on the list do have specific laws against online gambling, with the exception of Kentucky, which is just a state full of political corruption anyway.

    So yes the casino software providers do care about the "law".
    But what most of them didn't care about was being bullied by the US Justice Department religious wackos when what they were doing was not against the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    An interesting read from Poker News daily.

    http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/microg...customers-588/
    This is most odd, they still allow SPORTSBOOK activity, the one thing the Wire act actually covers as being what was regarded as "illegal gambling over the wires" when it was enacted.

    Surely, ALL US bets should be blocked for SPORTS, and the 14 states with state laws blocked for all, sports, casinos, and poker.

    Odder still that the state laws will be enforced for poker and the casino, but blatently ignored for the offshore sports books, and it is sports betting (entrapment?) that has been used in the cases brought so far.

    There is a motive here that we are not seeing, MG is being leant on to take action that is not necessarily logical when analysed against what is in the public domain, maybe a settlement with Kentucky is involved to avoid disruption to the main Microgaming web domain, which feeds the functions of Playcheck and Cashcheck for the casinos, among other things.

    Kentucky made it clear they wanted IP blocking as part of any settlement, and blocking the other states at the same time will pre-empt copycat actions that would cause further spells of disruption.

    I notice also it is now 14 states, it was only 11 last year, so it seems to be a creeping prohibition. The proxy detection will work only as long as it takes some "script kiddie" to find a loophole, and it will then be an "arms race", although most players will decline to take part because of the high risk in joining in with real money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
    The proxy detection will work only as long as it takes some "script kiddie" to find a loophole, and it will then be an "arms race", although most players will decline to take part because of the high risk in joining in with real money.
    The IP blocking is just one part of the whole. There are other barriers in place to stop the players from the excluded states.

    The casinos all require you to prove who you are before they will payout anything. In order to prove who you are, you have to prove where you are.

    The big problem comes from people that live in the FREE states who's ISP has an IP address in one of the "excluded' states. Those folks are going to have problems. IP addresses were never set up to determine geographic borders like state lines.
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    Also keep in mind that the books on the network use their own software for sports. Does MG even have a sports software? Intertops amd Poker Host come to mind as two sites that have their own book. MG can't go and tell them how to run their other businesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokeraddict View Post
    Also keep in mind that the books on the network use their own software for sports. Does MG even have a sports software? Intertops amd Poker Host come to mind as two sites that have their own book. MG can't go and tell them how to run their other businesses.
    Here we go....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    The big problem comes from people that live in the FREE states who's ISP has an IP address in one of the "excluded' states. Those folks are going to have problems. IP addresses were never set up to determine geographic borders like state lines.
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