Ultimate Bet - superuser false alarm

[realwtfsup]

Here is an email from Phil Hellmuth and link to thread from 2+2


Okay before I call you.......I do have some information right now as I got off the phone with a "very high up". It does seem that there are several superuser accounts that UB has just mentioned to me. They were holding off on announcing it due to reasons I am unaware of, but apparently this is a new strand, like you suspected (and I doubted) of superusers, unlike with the AP scandal. I want to apologize, but keep in mind I was simply a "promotional" figure with them. This is an OFFSHORE company. Apparently it will be very hard to persecute, just as with the AP scandal, since the money has already been withdrawn according to "Kushal" since this did occur several months ago. They are saying that it is most likely they will be UNABLE to retrieve those funds as involved in the dispute. If you have any further questions, follow up in this email, but give it some thought. Thanks for your understanding as they will continue to work as best they can to see what can be done, however as under the agreement when downloading the software "it is an inherant risk" to play online as with any site. Again my apologies for this being pretty embarrassing personally, and also on behalf of UB, sorry for the bad news....

2+2 forum thread
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ad.php?t=99247

Post with Hellmuth email
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=258

[winbig]

"it is an inherant risk"

[bb28]

Here is an email from Phil Hellmuth and link to thread from 2+2


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ad.php?t=99247

I read part of the thread the other day on 2+2 but there wasn't any email from Hellmuth on there. I don't see it there now after doing a real quick look.

Never mind.......I found the post on 2+2. Maybe this link will take you directly to that page.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=99247&page=26

[Self Made]

The Hellmuth email is in this post.

[pokeraddict]

I've been following this too. This is why it was a good idea to stop promoting and playing at UB too. These accusations have been floating around for quite some time but UB has been silent. It shows that AP has been lying all along too about being open about the fraud. Nobody should be shocked here. I wonder what is next.

[NASHVEGAS]

Feel kneads sphell chex!

[bb28]

This is just too much isn't it!
I used to play quite a bit of small stakes, but after the AP thing broke, I think I've made one deposit and I used to play at UB.
No more......how can any of the sites be trusted? I especially don't see how anyone playing with big stakes could put their faith in any site to be trustworthy and honest, after these two scandals. The official audit of AP.......seems to me that they were trying too hard not to step on any toes or ruffle any feathers.

[NASHVEGAS]

This is just too much isn't it!

You would think, totally mindboggling!!!

[jetset]

Whoa! this really is a shocker that will reverberate around the Internet and rightly disturb players everywhere....and it sounds as if initially UB is taking the same denial route (trying to get threads shut down etc) as its sister.

Presumably UB shares the same Joe Norton "ownership" and Kahnawake licensing as Absolute Poker, which makes it even worse for both parties, given KGC's report over the weekend and its truly frustrating lack of real, hard information.

There's no way this one can be swept under the carpet.

Gaming Associates must be licking their chops at the prospect of another well-paid investigation. And any hope Kahnawake may have had of persuading the UK Gambling Commission to add it to the whitelist has now surely fled.

[realwtfsup]

This is just too much isn't it!
I used to play quite a bit of small stakes, but after the AP thing broke, I think I've made one deposit and I used to play at UB.
No more......how can any of the sites be trusted? I especially don't see how anyone playing with big stakes could put their faith in any site to be trustworthy and honest, after these two scandals. The official audit of AP.......seems to me that they were trying too hard not to step on any toes or ruffle any feathers.

Yeah! Thank god there are players out there who have the ability to find cheaters, colluders and bots.