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Old 18th October 2007, 11:28 PM
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can someone please explain why in the hell their player trafic is about the same now as before this debacle, that is gonna truly be the answer why on line casinos and gambling sites will allways continue to feel like they can get away with anything cuz the public will still gamble on sites whether they are rouged or found to be srtaight up cheating...incredible
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can someone please explain why in the hell their player trafic is about the same now as before this debacle, that is gonna truly be the answer why on line casinos and gambling sites will allways continue to feel like they can get away with anything cuz the public will still gamble on sites whether they are rouged or found to be srtaight up cheating...incredible

It's baffling isn't it? My guess is that most of the players have no idea and there are a few pros picking on the fish pond knowing what has happened. One of the players that got cheated has bragged at 2+2 about how the games have never been better.
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Old 19th October 2007, 03:25 AM
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Wizard of Odds has posted this on his site:

http://wizardofodds.com/software/absolutepoker.html

The most eye opening...

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Of these 93 hands, POTRIPPER won 56 times, in an average 8.13 players per hand. Assuming all players are equally skilled you would expect 11.49 wins. POTRIPPER was 14.03 standard deviations above expectations. The probability of luck this good or better is 1 in 1.88 × 1044. It would be easier to buy a 6/49 lottery ticket in six different states, and hit the jackpot all six times. Still, could it still just be chip dumping, or playing very bad players? The playback, in my opinion, shows otherwise.
Josem at 2+2 says this is 1 in 188,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,00 0,000,000.
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http://www.pocketfives.com/18B87A4F-...9C725E0FA.aspx

To any of those that still had any doubts click the above link. AP has confessed. I guess I don't have to worry about getting sued now.

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PocketFives just received a phone call from Absolute Poker confirming the suspicions of the online poker community over the past month. While we need to be vague in this post to respect their wishes, we can say that their systems were compromised, and that they are prepared to provide the details in a statement coming shortly.

Part of the statement will include a plan to refund players affected by this compromise.

We are extremely relieved to hear this outcome, as our most important goal in all this is to see justice given to those who were cheated in this process. Pocketfives is extremely proud to have played a part in the process of uncovering the impropriety that has occurred. We would of course like to thank all the other parties who played a key role in this process—specifically the folks that have been posting here and at twoplustwo.com.

This is great news for everyone. Keep your eyes out for the statement.

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Two questions:
1) Have you ever played blackjack at English Harbour?
2) How would you like your bug, medium-well?

Just kidding. I've never played at AP so I can't say which game is "crookeder".
lol... Funny you should mention EH...why just the other day I posted this:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post195547

..and you got me...I never played BJ at EH. Never played it online for real money. I only play B&M BJ.
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Anyone speak Dutch here?

I'd like to get a basic translation on this story....

http://www.depers.nl/buitenland/1135...kerfraude.html
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I don't speak Dutch, and I don't know if this will help (probably not but I thought I'd try) - I pasted the text of it into a Dutch translator and if nothing else, it makes for some interesting reading due to the language barrier. Not all words were translated but you can mostly pick up the gist of things, even with the odd untranslated 15-letter word thrown in for flare. It's almost... poetic.

Poker holes false game in poker lucrative occupation
Old-senior official gotten after online poker fraud
Through: Marten Blankesteijn
Published: yesterday 00:03
Update: yesterday 00:10


Fraud in poker country: the former manager of one of the largest online poker game saw to for it that he the cards of its adversaries wanted to see.

Does Bluft my adversary, or he have really good cards? Its my cards better? Do moneys put in or not?

It being the hamvragen by poker that Scott Toms self needed never to put. The former manager of absolute poker. com – one of the largest pokeraanbieders on internet – programmed its software so that he inspection had in the cards of its adversaries. And that plays a to pieces easier.

The affair came rolling then CrazyMarco, an online poker player, in an Absolute Poker-tournament with thousand dollars price money were eliminated through a 'crazy call' of a player that itself Potripper named. The last one had miserable cards, and thus was there a very large chance that CrazyMarco a better hand had. When its adversary also yet once many money put not in could Potripper differently than its cards throw away, appeared it. But that did not he. He paid and saw that its most card (10) 'by chance' better was then that of Marco (9).

That woke suspicion. CrazyMarco early by the organization a print-out of the speelgedrag of Potripper on. With a club friendly poker players he analyzed IP-addresses, e-mailadressen and speelgewoontes. After single weeks, Potripper appeared nobody differently than Scott Tom, the former CEO of Absolute Poker. Through a simple trick, he wanted to see the cards of all players and join in at the same time self.

How vague Tom has taken advantage of its zelfbedachte method and how much he at that has earned is not yet clear. Someone else question is or contain the poker software of comparable websites the same possibilities. In a market in which annually at a rough estimate 1.5 billion dollar goes around will that particularly gainfully be. Yet a pluspunt: the chance that zoiets ever comes out is small. Restrain walked against the lamp through a decision to take that té clear ups and downs on foreknowledge. Who the bit more cleverly plays and loses so finished and closed also what pots, becomes realm. Quite rich.
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Thanks - I guess that gives the sense of this.

Now - on to more developments in this Absolute Poker case.

It appears that the folks at Poker News at least feel there is a good chance that the xls file at the heart of the discoveries is genuine. In an excellent and detailed study of the entire affair at http://www.pokernews.com/news/2007/1...lute-poker.htm they make the following comment:

[Author's note: PokerNews has obtained a copy of the spreadsheet and has examined its contents, which appear on its surface to be genuine. To date, Absolute Poker has not commented on the accuracy or origination of the spreadsheet's contents, and because of the immense size of the file, over 65,000 lines, there has been no official determination as of yet as to whether every data cell in the file is genuine. It is not known if Absolute's upcoming statement will specifically address the spreadsheet or its contents.]

It sounds as if we can expect another statement from Absolute soon.
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I know that this all is a very serious issue, but, I am sorry, I'm dying here We can live in space and all that stuff and this is the best we can invent in tranlators? I gotta go get a beer

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