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Old 14th January 2008, 12:54 AM
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It is time to let some other people speak, too. Here is a discussion on Pokerrati, were Chuck Barnett, member of the Board of Supervisors of MIT says something - not very much, but nevertheless he tried it.

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Old 14th January 2008, 07:43 PM
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Absorbing phrasing on Pokerrati:

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Yesterday, Chuck Barnett, member of the Board of Supervisors of Mohawk Internet Technologies, told me that the delay was due to the size of the audit report and the time it took to properly analyze it. Speaking of the members of the Commission, he said, “I will say that this has been at the forefront of their attention for the past month. I know that they’ve taken time away from their families during the holiday season to commit themselves to this task… This is a very serious situation which is being afforded the same sense of seriousness that it deserves.”

The only questions that remain have to do with Absolute Poker and Mark Seif. Will they make any statements with regard to the decision?
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Old 14th January 2008, 07:54 PM
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The only questions that remain have to do with Absolute Poker and Mark Seif.
Now that is funny.

Who cares about that has been Seif?

There are a lot of important unanswered questions in this Absolute Poker cheating scandal.
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Old 14th January 2008, 08:10 PM
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I've read through that Pokerati link and frankly I don't see anything fresh and new other than the Mohawk Technologies guy pushing the KGC line we have all followed here.

Nobody answers the valid questions surrounding people allegedly involved like AJ Green and Scott Tom, or how the scam was carried through, and the legitimate questions that have been asked here at Casinomeister and elsewhere remain unanswered.

It just leaves one feeling frustrated that the full story is clearly not going to be divulged by either AP, KGC, GA or....eventually if these current allegations amount to anything, UB.
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Old 14th January 2008, 08:36 PM
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What I would like to have seen is logs of each and every grandfathered account over that period & all of the accounts considered involved.

Full details passed over to a real authority with legal powers. Im sure there is more than enough to make a case.

I would like to know where the serurity team were playing at the time, if it was their day off or they were just browsing porn.

I would like a follow up on why it took a delay on blocking the accounts after it became public knowledge.

I would like a reason why AP initially denied any wrongdoing only to reverse the decision when they were left with little choice.

I would like to know why a multi million dollar fraud has been met with a mere $500k fine and no further action taken.

I would like to know why AP/UB are still live and allowed to process financial transactions.

I would like to know why credit card companies have not withdrawn their support to the site.

I have a few other questions but that's a start.
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This is part of a post I just did in another thread.

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AP must have hired some political advisor's, because they are using political tricks and gimmicks for damage control.

* KGC Releases the report on a Friday evening. - All politicos know you release bad news on a Friday evening, No one watches Friday evening news and by Monday morning some other bit of news is all the rage at the water cooler.

* Admit what everyone knows anyway. - Politicos know that you can't deny something after it has already been admitted, so you admit it again and then say in a very ambiguous way that all the other problems have been 'addressed'.

* Don't admit or acknowledge anything other than what has already been previously released to the public.

* Spread around a lot of money to the 'friendly' press (in this case outfits like gambling911 and CAP)

* Get your spokespeople and shills to start the misinformation campaign. - This should start in earnest today. (in fact it looks to have already started...)


All in all a Absolute Poker is doing a very political job of handling an issue they don't want the public to know about or get upset over.

The fact Absolute Poker is handling things this way is just more evidence that Absolute Poker are as dirty as I thought they were... and it don't get any dirtier than that.
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Question to Pokeraddict.

Now as you were at AP during their early days, do you not think it is conceivable that the cheating has been going on from day one? Im sure an experienced player would have been less obvious. Now it could either have been a sign of them getting smug & feeling untouchable about the scamming, total greed or it could be that they passed the account over to a play money level player. KGC, has shown that AP can do what they want. They look as corrupt as AP in this matter.

Maybe AP didnt see the point in investing the time in taking $1000 dollars an hour. Maybe they started using more accounts and started getting sloppy. Its fine to iscolate the high stakes, but theres no reason why this hasnt been tested right through the chain.
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Old 14th January 2008, 11:49 PM
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.... do you not think it is conceivable that the cheating has been going on from day one?
I think we could draw further conclusions like in a buzzle if we exactly knew with which trick or software the cheaters have worked. If they used old client software then I think we could recombine some facts. This is a task for inspector Columbo and no task for an auditor.
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