Convincing Webmasters to Advertise responsibly

[Roanan]

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I've filed my complaint.

I want access to my affiliate account so that I can be sure that they are going to be fair and to get my affiliate tag. Either way they know who I am as I have promoted them since day one and have all of the contest/posts archived that will show HUNDREDS if not thousands of NEW player signups.

Here is one of the events that is still public: Grand Prive' Group BLACKLISTED.

Thanks again!

When/if you do get your affiliate cheque, are you going to use it to reimburse all the players you have helped the Virtual Casino Group rip off over the years?

[GamTrak]

When/if you do get your affiliate cheque, are you going to use it to reimburse all the players you have helped the Virtual Casino Group rip off over the years?

WTF? That is not for you to ask or any of your friggen business TROUBLE MAKER so find someone else to harrass because I'm NOT the one got it?

[Roanan]

WTF? That is not for you to ask or any of your friggen business TROUBLE MAKER so find someone else to harrass because I'm NOT the one got it?

Awww...poor baby.

You have been making a living helping the Virtual Casino Group people rip players off for years, and ARE STILL DOING IT to this very day.

Your main page shows you actively promoting them, plus every month you make new threads in your forum devoted entirely to posting coupon codes from The Virtual Group.


...and do you really think you can intimidate me with a rude, insulting email:

Date: 30 Dec 2009 23:28:43 -0000
To: roananxxxxx@xxxxx.net
Subject: You best watch your step.
From: "GamTrak @ Casinomeister's Online Casino and Poker Forum" <gamtrak@yahoo.com>
Sender: forum@casinomeister.com

This is a message from GamTrak at Casinomeister's Online Casino and Poker Forum ( http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/ ). The Casinomeister's Online Casino and Poker Forum owners cannot accept any responsibility for the contents of the email.

To email GamTrak, you can use this online form:
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...lmember&u=3818

OR, by email:
mailto:gamtrak@yahoo.com

This is the message:

I don't need your smart ass comments directed toward me so you need to stop asap because I'm not gonna play around with an idiot like yourself.

The next email won't be so nice.

Robin

[Bencuri]

When/if you do get your affiliate cheque, are you going to use it to reimburse all the players you have helped the Virtual Casino Group rip off over the years?

I agree with Roanan. You should consider that in case you promote these places, you also take part in the cheating that these places do. In case you would't direct players to these rogue place with affiliate link would I say, okay, you are not part of this bad businesses, because you don't benefit from the players being fooled by rogue casinos. But the case is you know they are rogue, and even if you warn others, you leave your affiliate links and banners to these casinos on your sites.

And unfortunately it is not only Gamtrak who does this, but other big affiliate sites as well...

[Redbush54]

When/if you do get your affiliate cheque, are you going to use it to reimburse all the players you have helped the Virtual Casino Group rip off over the years?

Roanan what business is it of yours what GamTrak does? You pulled a response from the 7th of Dec in a thread about Grand Prive. If you had a problem with what GamTrak does then why didn't you pm her? Did you pm her and ask why she promoted them? Did you have her permission to post her pm and a screenshot of her portal? How do you know that the two places you circled weren't missed on the last portal update? How do you know that it won't be taken care of on the next update? How many other sites do you visit looking for something that's wrong?

Yea I'm a nobody but to see you derail a thread with something not even related to Grand Prive imho is totally ridiculous. Go ahead, crucify me...I could care less. What I do care about is how ppl are ripped apart on meister instead of a casual pm to them asking to discuss something YOU don't like.

[Roanan]

Roanan what business is it of yours what GamTrak does? You pulled a response from the 7th of Dec in a thread about Grand Prive. If you had a problem with what GamTrak does then why didn't you pm her? Did you pm her and ask why she promoted them? Did you have her permission to post her pm and a screenshot of her portal? How do you know that the two places you circled weren't missed on the last portal update? How do you know that it won't be taken care of on the next update? How many other sites do you visit looking for something that's wrong?

Yea I'm a nobody but to see you derail a thread with something not even related to Grand Prive imho is totally ridiculous. Go ahead, crucify me...I could care less. What I do care about is how ppl are ripped apart on meister instead of a casual pm to them asking to discuss something YOU don't like.

I only made the post because I saw her online and was appalled that she would be allowed to have an account at Casinomeister, and I decided to look at some of her recent activity.

As a victim of The Virtual Group THANKS to Gamtrak's lies and promotion of crooked casinos, I believe it is my right to do what I have done.

Second of all, I took that screenshot WHILE I was making the post above, so claiming that it's not up to date is hogwash.


And I know you don't care if I 'crucify you'.

YOU ARE EMPLOYED BY GAMTRAK

You will always be biased as you also benefit from Gamtrak's crooked dealings, so your opinion doesn't matter.

[jetset]

Before this gets any uglier:

It is a derail imo - but affiliates knowingly promoting rogue casinos is a valid subject, and I would therefore suggest a new thread, perhaps with private information like PM and email content removed.

[Roanan]

Before this gets any uglier:

It is a derail imo - but affiliates knowingly promoting rogue casinos is a valid subject, and I would therefore suggest a new thread, perhaps with private information like PM and email content removed.

I agree and am planning to start a 'Roanan vs. Gamtrak' thread later, but I was waiting for Brian's response to the ugly email Robin sent me...and it was an email, not a PM, and I hadn't sent her anything, nor did I reply, I simply forwarded the email to Brian and made the response post here.

The fact that the email was both inslting AND threatening guaranteed I would be making this public:

Subject: You best watch your step
... because I'm not gonna play around with an idiot like yourself.

As I mentioned, there is a history here and I will lay everything out later when I make the new thread.


In the meantime, I apologize to the rest of you for derailing this thread, but as my user tag states:

Denis Leary says I'm an..

and you'll have some fun reading about how big of one I can be when crossed.

[jetset]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I am leary of publicly posting private emails without the sender's permission, regardless of how threatening or insulting the content.

IMO you could have PM'd Bryan or one of the other mods to complain about Gamtrak's communication, because the Casinomeister email system was apparently used to convey the offending message.

That said, I look forward to watching the new thread unfold.

[mojo]

This is soo sooo wrong!

Whatever beef we have with each other does not mean we are allowed to hang someone out to dry.

I am surprised at CM. You know dam well nothing good will come from this thread. Gamtrak has been beat up here over and over. She said she would not promote them anymore!

Robin, you removed GW. If you didn't I can't help you!