Convincing Webmasters to Advertise responsibly

[AussieDave]

shameless advertising is known as Spam. So, please don't spam the board.

You've lost me with the purpose of this statement

Care to explain?


Cheers



Dave

[TOC]

JMO- The entire thread is nothing more than someone that lost $250.00 because a casino went rouge or casino group and now their blaming the affiliate. Come on.. Yes I do think that affiliates should keep up with who they advertise but FBI and ISP reporting, give me a break. Go after the online casino that you feel ripped you off and ask the affiliate to stop advertising them before you go crazy inside a forum!! Now if the affiliate doesn't stop I see your point but it's the casino that ripped you off and not the affiliate, correct? I'm beginning to wonder if this site should be for Players only, not affiliates or casino's. I've had to defend myself many times and I have an accredited casino on my affiliate site so I feel for the ones advertising rouge casino's and maybe without knowledge. BTW- It takes time to delete casino's and links posted on the Internet, it's not a overnight thing. I also see abuse to online casino management trying to help players, or explain procedure all the time and they're abused by many members. Again I think CasinoMeister should be a player site and affiliates and casino's should move on because it's a losing battle, JMP. Personally I'm out of here, get a grip people.. This thread has opened my eyes, BYE!!:

[jetset]

Whilst it is true that on occasion some - and a minority imo - of the members here can go a little OTT, I believe your own reaction is excessive and that you should reconsider your decision to depart in favour of staying on, TOC.

In my opinion Casinomeister is all about balance, and to achieve that we need to have a diverse number of opinions on a range of issues that are of common interest. That way we get other perspectives and valuable information from different sides of a debate or discussion.

Sometimes affiliates are dominant in a particular conversation and players might be forgiven for thinking that the forum has been taken over by that sector; on other issues the dominant parties in a conversation may belong to another interest group...but all are welcome to participate provided they behave like adults.

Marching off in a huff because you perceive incorrectly that affiliates are reviled here is not the way to go.

[GamTrak]

I have to disagree with you on this one jetset. TOC is EXACTLY on the money with that statement.

The thugs and thugetts are allowed to do as they will while I get my PM priviledges taken because I ask someone to leave me the hell alone? Let some of this stuff happen to YOU or those "thanking" you and your experience at Casinomeister would be much different!

They even spit threads and place your brand name in the subject in order to sit back watch and even participate in the attack (which Bryan did with Sassy)! That was some Bull$shit!

I've already been banned for 7 days in the past while defending myself during the CAP attack and at this rate they will have to 'Color me Red' soon because I won't kiss any butt as well speak my mind at ALL times!

He is quick to warn some check here where I'm accused of hijacking a thread! LOL Why not split it out (like this thread) and leave it be?

[bb28]

JMO- The entire thread is nothing more than someone that lost $250.00 because a casino went rouge or casino group and now their blaming the affiliate. Come on.. Yes I do think that affiliates should keep up with who they advertise but FBI and ISP reporting, give me a break. Go after the online casino that you feel ripped you off and ask the affiliate to stop advertising them before you go crazy inside a forum!! Now if the affiliate doesn't stop I see your point but it's the casino that ripped you off and not the affiliate, correct? I'm beginning to wonder if this site should be for Players only, not affiliates or casino's. I've had to defend myself many times and I have an accredited casino on my affiliate site so I feel for the ones advertising rouge casino's and maybe without knowledge. BTW- It takes time to delete casino's and links posted on the Internet, it's not a overnight thing. I also see abuse to online casino management trying to help players, or explain procedure all the time and they're abused by many members. Again I think CasinoMeister should be a player site and affiliates and casino's should move on because it's a losing battle, JMP. Personally I'm out of here, get a grip people.. This thread has opened my eyes, BYE!!:

Are you saying you are going to get a balanced view at sites that are geared toward the affiliates and the casino reps?

Things do get a bit unbalanced here at times but if you take the time to read all the responses instead of just the ones you feel are bashing what ever particular side you are leaning on, you would see that things are usually brought into check pretty quickly. Was the original poster over the top......yes, but that doesn't negate all the rest of it, just because you didn't like it.

Perhaps you need to get a grip on reality and try to see things from both sides instead of seeing it as personal attack on your livelihood. There might be a day down the road when players become a lot more picky about just who their affiliates are.

[bb28]

I have to disagree with you on this one jetset. TOC is EXACTLY on the money with that statement.

The thugs and thugetts are allowed to do as they will while I get my PM priviledges taken because I ask someone to leave me the hell alone? Let some of this stuff happen to YOU or those "thanking" you and your experience at Casinomeister would be much different!

They even spit threads and place your brand name in the subject in order to sit back watch and even participate in the attack (which Bryan did with Sassy)! That was some Bull$shit!

I've already been banned for 7 days in the past while defending myself during the CAP attack and at this rate they will have to 'Color me Red' soon because I won't kiss any butt as well speak my mind at ALL times!

He is quick to warn some check here where I'm accused of hijacking a thread! LOL Why not split it out (like this thread) and leave it be?

GamTrak.......I don't know you, hardly know anything about you other than what I've seen you post here at CM. You come across as arrogant, defensive and downright mean to someone who dares disagree with your view of things. Your postings here say volumes about you, like it or not and it ain't a pretty picture.

[AussieDave]

Let some of this stuff happen to YOU or those "thanking" you and your experience at Casinomeister would be much different!

You really are unbelievable.

You take total umbrage by throwing unsubstituted accusations at me personally at the GPWA, over a post that had no malice directed nor remotely aimed at you.

http://www.gpwa.org/forum/gp-ecogra-...tml#post585102

No apology of course. That only becomes another issue for you if you feel slighted. Where the broken victim record is played over and over again

Now I find you here, taking another pot shot at me. All because I agree and thanked jetset who holds a similar opinion.

What gets me though and makes your accusations even less plausible, is Bryan (CM) was the first person who advised you to Trademark the GamTrak brand. And went on to encourage you further to follow his suggestion.

Jetset was one of he peeps to suggest a class action. He even posted some help and suggestions on that for you too.

Hell I stuck up for you, and coped a right grilling over the AU fiasco, which all came to head because of that clip joint casino (Cool Cat) you were promoting.

But for what ever reason, you throw all this help to curb. You dish people, make wild accusations and basically piss people off to no extent.

Then after you've done all this, and not even bothering to apologise to anyone for GETTING IT WRONG, you then turnaround and accuse people of not giving you a fair go...Sheesh

The thugs and thugetts

The only bully boy, gangster like actions I witness are coming out of your venomous cake hole, when someone doesn't agree with you.

Even here you have a go at bonusstreak about a post she made here at CM
http://www.gpwa.org/forum/gp-ecogra-...tml#post585454

I'm done helping you.

As of now your on my ignore list. Here, at the GPWA and anywhere else we co-exist. Because frankly IMHO you do more harm to affiliates and their causes than any other issue I've ever seen.



Dave

[jetset]

I have to disagree with you on this one jetset. TOC is EXACTLY on the money with that statement.

The thugs and thugetts are allowed to do as they will while I get my PM priviledges taken because I ask someone to leave me the hell alone? Let some of this stuff happen to YOU or those "thanking" you and your experience at Casinomeister would be much different!

They even spit threads and place your brand name in the subject in order to sit back watch and even participate in the attack (which Bryan did with Sassy)! That was some Bull$shit!

I've already been banned for 7 days in the past while defending myself during the CAP attack and at this rate they will have to 'Color me Red' soon because I won't kiss any butt as well speak my mind at ALL times!

He is quick to warn some check here where I'm accused of hijacking a thread! LOL Why not split it out (like this thread) and leave it be?

Gamtrak, my comments on why balance is important on this forum and how we might achieve it were of a general nature, yet you have managed to divert them into a personal grumble on what you perceive to be personal nastiness directed at you by our host and other forum members.

I don't see that, I'm afraid.

I'll say it again: affiliates, the same as anyone else here, make their own posting reputations by the manner in which they conduct themselves and the value of their contributions; they are treated no better - or worse - than other members and polite, useful content in their posts is always welcome.

[Casinomeister]

Well, enough is enough. I've shown Robin the door because she's just too damn annoying.

I have assisted this woman a number of times - more recently a PAB where an affiliate payment had gone missing. Max and I solved this problem - and we received not even a thank you.

But that's par for the course with this lady.

She's a drama queen. She tends to over dramatize most everything she involves herself with; most recently the GP fiasco. Even though GP is in the rogue section - even though I have warned players and webmasters about GP's effed up management for years - she attacks me because I'm not bailing affiliates out of their mess:

This part of the article is priceless and very telling when it comes to just how much 'help' Bailey will be for affiliates!

I thought casinomeister was stepping his foot in the 'affiliate' ring with his webmaster section blah blah blah.

I guess because Grand Prive was on the CasinoGod's table/scroll for years we are banished to ScrewYouVille! He is clearly on some bull$hit as well as the others!

http://www.gpwa.org/forum/gp-ecogra-bs-187069/p20.html

For Robin's information: the webmaster section of the forum is almost as old as the GPWA itself. I don't know what "ring" she's implying I'm stepping into. And what more are affiliates expecting me to do? Perform my own audit?

Sheesh! This is one of the reasons I hate dealing with affiliate issues, too many self-serving affiliates who will only start barking when they don't get paid. They send players off to the slaughter-house, that's fine for them - the players can get screwed all they want. That's cool. But if that affy check doesn't come in - whoa! let's have a public hissy fit!

Perhaps she'd feel more comfortable as a permanent guest of the Jerry Springer show.

As for me, I've had enough of her childish rants. Bye Robin.

[AussieDave]

Well, enough is enough. I've shown Robin the door because she's just too damn annoying.

On par with that squeak in a car you can never find but ends up annoying the begebbers out of you every time you drive it.

Thanks CM you've saved more that a few peoples sanity with that call



Cheers



Dave