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    Nifty29: Skiny, its a shame you had to ruin a good discussion/argument with some high school sarcasm. Instead of presenting your side of the coin with explanations and evidence about why you think my argument is invalid, you just say 'pffft' and dismiss it.
    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black....isn't this just what you and a few others do to those that try to get across something...ahhh but your reponses are supposedly more acceptable in you mind because you say and follow others repeating... " you are so TIRESOME" or it gets so "OLD" to keep repeating yourself, but it is ok for you and a few others to do this yes..and to repeat what others already have said, including "well quit playing if you feel so strongly about it"...well..guess what Nifty29, you ARE repeating yourself...and repeating verbatum what is forced down other peoples throat that has absolutely nothing to do with the rant...

    FOCUS:

    BONUS ROUNDS are the subject....why have them if they are going to cost a fortune to hit and give up NOTHING...what is the POINT of a bonus round if not to win back some of what it cost to reach it....can you focus and answer that without any other converstional misdirection???

    The POINT....the OBJECT..the REASON for a bonus round is.......say it here :_____________________________...

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

    Roanan: Perhaps you should start playing 3- and 5-reel multi-line classic slots and leave the video slots alone.
    I do, a lot...thanks for the sugestion though...

    Just curous as to why anyone would think one doesn't play a variety of games??? Or how does one know that the other hasn't quit playing if so disgusted...

    Yes, yes...I know....such a tiresome rant....but if others can be so tiresome...why can't we....is what I say..and you guys really do get tiresome too...hearing, the pat, "quit", get another hobby" variance" etc....so I guess we are in good tiresome boring company!!

    Have a nice day...signing off...

    Boring and tiresome but persistant!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty29 View Post
    Skiny, its a shame you had to ruin a good discussion/argument with some high school sarcasm. Instead of presenting your side of the coin with explanations and evidence about why you think my argument is invalid, you just say 'pffft' and dismiss it.
    Nifty, its a shame you had to ruin a good discussion/argument about slot games totally changing behaviour as soon as a multiplier is added with the same old spiel about variance.

    (I also felt my sarcasm was college level at least.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty29 View Post
    I know exactly how you feel, as Im a slot player too......the difference is I made the effort to educate myself about how they work, and now I understand why things happen as they do. It doesnt mean I dont get annoyed when I lose, but it does mean I dont let it burn me up and spoil the entire experience. Everyone is different, but if it was eating me like its eating you I would take a break.
    Seems like me disagreeing with your dismissal of the slot behaviour as normal variance eats you more than the crapped out free spins eats me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty29 View Post
    Interesting that you are 20% ahead of the game you are complaining about......I am sure you have hit lots and lots of BS bonus rounds along the way, but managed to hit a couple of big ones here and there which put you in the black. You know, there is a name for that - Variance.
    The reason I'm ahead as I said is because I've only bet really high on the particular game once or twice and one of those times was when the game behaved like all slot games should. I hit a bonus feature and it didn't crap out on every spin. Since then I've low rolled that game many times over and we're back to the same crapping out. 22 free spins with a 10x multiplier winning 10x my wager. That's crapping out. Variance or not, I think more than one of those 22 spins should have hit more than 1x. I don't see that play during regular spins. If I did I wouldn't have been playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silcnlayc View Post
    skiny, you are really beating a dead horse here because no one wants to hear this...
    That's not true, I'm actually enjoying reading the posts here in this thread...
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    RobWin: That's not true, I'm actually enjoying reading the posts here in this thread...
    Then you are a first Rob to not diminish the thought process here unlike the thread many moons ago I started and was dismissed without a thought to the actual question...! Maybe skiny will hold on long enough to get a decent answer..unlike me..I just gave up on everybody that had an agenda with my postings...and moved on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty29 View Post
    Nothing personal, but if you dismissing variance out of hand as an explanation of your playing experience, you are ignoring mathematical facts....and maths dont lie.

    Did you see someone hit $5600 on a $1.50 bet at 3Dice the other day - now how do you think the casino is going to make money if everyone had a good chance of hitting like this? The answer is that they dont have a good chance - in fact, the chances are slim.

    If you want to play a slot where you have a reasonable chance to hit 4-500xbet or 1000xbet, you have to accept that the vast majority of the spins in between (bonus rounds included) are going to pay very little. All the 3Dice slots, and many of the RTG slots, work this way. These slots will suck you dry very quickly, but by the same token you can hit 2000xbet or more (Ive done it more than once)..i.e. the big wins are bigger, but less frequent.

    Imagine a pendulum swinging from win to lose - at 3Dice the pendulum has a very wide arc. You win big or you lose big. No in-betweens.

    Its called variance.

    If a slot player cant accept the idea of variance, they are destined to be writing posts like these forever and ever. You have to accept that the risk of playing for a big win is that you will likely have a big loss.

    The only other explanation is that the casino/software is cheating - in which case, it is perfectly reasonable for someone to advise you to stop playing there, as there is no way I would give money to someone I thought was cheating me....would you??

    Its nothing personal against anyone, Im just trying to show that all of this is within the normal mathematical expectations of a high variance slot game, in the hope that it might allow other members to make more informed choices when it comes to the games they play vs their available bankroll. If you dont have a big bankroll, and you want to have some reasonable play time for your money, then high variance slots are the worst choice you can make.

    And that's why you love us so much.
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    Mavin1: And that's why you love us so much.
    OMG you WENCH!

    Nifty29: If a slot player cant accept the idea of variance, they are destined to be writing posts like these forever and ever
    Yea, yea ,yea, old news, heard it a million times before...BORING...............need a new line....and not even on subject...geez...


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    I kinda like reading them too , especially ..... when they are true and are well worded like skiny's usually are!

    thanks skiny and silcnlayc for your comments and views

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    So Silc, what kind of "Wench" are we talking here?

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    Mavin1 So Silc, what kind of "Wench" are we talking here?
    OMG...I am laffin so hard can't breath..I was going to say one of them "flirty types".....but is Nifty a he or she?? Oh geezes..I am dying here..please ignore me..I am punch happy or something..

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    I hadn't thought of the flirty wench, was thinking, truck wench, wicked wench, like the one in Wizard of Odds, Grinch Wench.......

    But seriously, you have to admit, the more we complain, the better we get at it.

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