Casino TROPEZ and Casino Del Rio non-payment

[florin]

Hi guys

I managed to make a few Euros playing roulette at Casino TROPEZ and Casino Del Rio. They are brothers or sisters or something - together in a trust.
Now it is exactly 7 days and 2 hours since my w/d request from each one of them. I requested through Neteller (the same as deposit) and all my documents had been sent in advance and confirmed by 15 casinos.

Two days ago I received a confirmation email (after 5 days!):

From: Casino Tropez (support@casinotropez.com)
Sent: Fri 8/14/09 2:37 AM
To: ..... (fstanescu@hotmail.com)


Dear ....., Thank you for choosing Casino Tropez. We are glad to inform you that we have processed your withdrawal request, code 4480710, for the total amount of €43.00. For your convenience, please note the withdrawal details: The total amount of €43.00 will be credited to your NETeller account .... within 24 hours. Sincerely, Casino Tropez Finance Team

- YES, 43.00EUR! And if it were 4300Eur?...

And exactly the same situation for Casino Del Rio: same w/d date, same hour, same confirmation email. (27Eur!!!)

Today at noon both supports claimed having sent me the money. Which was a lie, you will see.

So now in the evening I had a hell of a time looking for Neteller online support (which sucks!) and he sent me back to casinos in order to get the NT CODE, which proves the money was really send.

I went back to one casino only (Tropez) because my liver, my stomach and everything else is hurting me and this is what I finally got:

Jonah: Your withdrawal was already issued to your Neteller account.
Player19: please give me the NT code
Jonah: I suggest that you contact Neteller for that.
Player19: I spoke with Neteller and they said you didn't send the money
Player19: I spoke with them 2 minutes ago
........
Jonah: Please give me 3-5 minutes to do that.
Player19: I need the NT CODE
Jonah: Alright., please give me 5 minutes to check that.
Jonah: Thank you for patiently waiting.
Jonah: "Florin"? [my quote]
Player19: in fact, I lost all patience
Jonah: You may please wait for atleast another 24 hours.
Player19: what for?
Player19: you lost the money?..
Player19: maybe your task of handling money is overwhelming...
Jonah: In case that it will not still be in your account, you may contact us again tomorrow.
Player19: I won't contact you again; I know what I have to do

- My Goodness, these Playtech casinos are something! What they're up to for a few Euros!...
And come on, give me a break: Tropez is on every site in my country, with agressive ads... And is on the recommended listed casinos!... Del Rio also has some overrated reviews.

Greedy bastards! It is a total of 70Eur...

Thank you guys for reading. Best of luck to all of you!

[Mallorca]

Hello Florin,
I am sorry to hear that these casinos are making it difficult for you.
You should play at the Playtech casinos accredited HERE and avoid the rest.
I told you once that most of the Playtech casinos do the same thing to the players.Now you`ve been waiting 7 days and one of these days they`ll request you to send them your ID documents and it is going to take another week until they tell you that there is something wrong with them and you`ll have to resend the documents again and if everything is in order...their excuse will be your country of residence or that they do not like the way you play...but don`t worry because while you are waiting to get paid your cashout will be pending waiting for you to reverse it and lose it all back again....
Same old Playech casinos story...I am sorry for you because I know you`re working hard to win a few euro playing your roulette systems and now that you win a little bit is not fair to experience all this to get paid.
I hope you`ll get paid one of these days.
Regards.
Mallorca.

[florin]

Hello Mallorca

It's good to meet you again. Thank you for your support.
As a matter of fact, I got paid by 2 casinos from "the family"; very low amounts, of course.

The documents are fullproof. They were sent in advance to 15 casinos and all of them approved them - including these ones!

TROPEZ:
From: Casino Tropez (support@casinotropez.com)
Sent: Sun 8/02/09 11:08 AM
To: ....(fstanescu@hotmail.com)

"Dear ...,
This is Confucius from the Support Team. Please be informed that we have received copies of your photo ID and valid proof of address. Your account has been updated and documents were saved in a secure file."

Of course I have checked the CM list. I don't know what the minimum bet is at those very few Playtech casinos listed here - for Bet365 the minimum is 0.25.
For the moment I need a minimum of 0.10 bet. I will check the other ones, anyway.
I think you suspect why I am wasting time with Playtech: 0.10 bet and no bet spinninng. To tell you the truth, I prefer MG.

I'll wait till tomorrow, then I will try to PAB.

[chuchu59]

When I could still play at Playtech Betfred had spins at $0.09 (9-liners). Dont know whether things have changed now.

As for Tropez, they used to be good (6-7 years ago) and they paid within 3 days. However, there just arent too many good Playtechs out there nowadays. Nice software, rogue operators.

[maxd]

I'll wait till tomorrow, then I will try to PAB.

Sorry florin but these casinos are both part of the Hardway Investments/Europartners group which is on our "No Can Do" List. They won't respond to issues we submit to them so ... no can do.

[florin]

When I could still play at Playtech Betfred had spins at $0.09 (9-liners). Dont know whether things have changed now.

Betfred has now a minimum of 1Eur for roulette. I already registered, but I can not play yet with this stake. (I only play roulette).

This was the first time for me at Tropez; I avoided it long time, but since it was reviewed as "recommended" I gave it a shot.

[florin]

Sorry florin but these casinos are both part of the Hardway Investments/Europartners group which is on our "No Can Do" List. They won't respond to issues we submit to them so ... no can do.

I didn't read that, of course...
Thank you for your information.

[Mousey]

Betfred has now a minimum of 1Eur for roulette. I already registered, but I can not play yet with this stake. (I only play roulette).

This was the first time for me at Tropez; I avoided it long time, but since it was reviewed as "recommended" I gave it a shot.

Have you mentioned your problem to the site/webmaster wherever you saw these casinos as 'Recommended'?

[BingoT]

Just an update on this from Florin
This is not going to my head ok
Just doing what's best.

Harry Potter LOL

Hellooooo!

I received the money from Tropez also!
Dear Tom, are you sure you are not related to Harry Potter or his school?
You really are a sorcerer of some kind, believe me!

Look what they said:

Dear , Thank you for choosing Casino Tropez. This is Karen from the Support Team. "Florin", we are very pleased to inform you that your withdrawalamounting to €43.00 via Neteller had been completely processed. You can nowcheck your Neteller account. We sincerely apologize for the delay.

Check this out: "We sincerely apologize for the delay."

Can you believe this? I CAN'T.

Yes Tom, you really are something!... I did not expect this money anymore.

So I take a bow before you.

Thank you,
Florin

[Mallorca]

Good job Tom !!!