Unfair Play/Odds - Red Flush Casino

[frankensite]

How can Casinomeister accredited a casino that makes unfair odds/play for players ?

I have deposit $200 at Red flush casino without any bonus, and found out that the limits on the table are still the same as with bonus (max $50) !....whats up with that (kids casino)...unfair play/odds of practic I say.

I mean they don't set limits on the slots the same way ???....WHY IS THAT I SAY ????

[frankensite]

LOL...Sorry, please put it in NON-Bonus issues

[vinylweatherman]

Table limits have no effect on the odds, or fairness of play. If they are only $50 though, this is LESS than the usual defaults offered by Microgaming. Maybe they are using "blunt force" to crack the probem of "bonus abuse" by setting permanent limits, rather than using the recently introduced feature whereby table and spin limits can be lowered during play with a bonus on the account.

I have seen this in action at Go Wild, but not at Red Flush.

Blackjack usually defaults to 500 table limit, but many casinos opted for 100 because of "bonus abuse" in the past.
3 Card Poker defaults to 200 chips, meaning max of 200 on each of the three positions. I have seen this at EVERY MGS casino I have played at.

If Red Flush have adopted limits of 50 permanently, these do seem rather low for MGS, and there are many other MGS casinos that offer higher limits by default, and a few that will raise the limits on request for VIP accounts.

[frankensite]

1. Table limits have no effect on the odds...Then why lower it !??

2. Limits are only on table games, NOT SLOTS !!

3. Table limits have no effect on the odds, YES it has...or roulette and all other table games without limits would have been made !!!

[frankensite]

FYI

Chat Transcript
info: Please wait while we connect you to a site operator.
info: You are now chatting with 'James'
James: Welcome to Red Flush Casino. How may I assist you?
Frank: HI
James: hello frank
Frank: is it a joke with $50 limit on the BJ tables
James: it is not a joke Frank, the limits will increase
Frank: okay...then cancel my deposit..thanks
James: we cannot cancell your deposit once it has been made Frank.
Frank: no...I have made a withdrawal instead then...and close my account..thanks
James: may i ask whether it is only because of the bet limits that you want your account closed Frank or is there something else with which you are not happy?
Frank: yes...the limits
James: okay, which particular game are you playing.
Frank: have you also put down the limits on slots ????
Frank: i mean fair should be fair.....
James: no we have not
Frank: if limits are down on table games why not the rest ??
Frank: is that fair play ???
James: the software which we run is Microgaming endorsed frank. we merely handle the customer support end of things.
James: i apologize for your disappointment Frank,
Frank: MG is not like this at 99% of the other places
Frank: yes...fine....close account...I'll try other MG casino
James: as i said Frank, the limits increase. all new players have a set limit at the beginning,
James: then as i said the limits increase to 200.00
Frank: yes..unfair play you would like
Frank: and what are the problem...I play without BONUS
Frank: forget it.....
Frank: just close my account.....THANKS
James: You will need to submit withdrawal documentation for us to process the withdrawal
Frank: you know casinomeister website??...your heading there !
Frank: have a nice freaking day !...CHAMP !
Frank: CIAO !
James: i know the site Frank however i am stating how the casino works. you can refer to the terms and conditions
Frank: ciao.....CHAMP
James: i do not mean to upset you Frank however our banking team will request these documents of you and i am merely giving you a heads up.
Frank: I don't give rats ass what you want....I'll make fraud charge at the bank then...because thats what this is
James: we will get back to you with regards to your account closure. Please feel free to contact us should you require any further assistance.
Frank: set your limit at 1 cent - 1 dollar...lol...that make more senses
Frank: lol
Frank: ciao...banditdos
Frank: pang...pang
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[frankensite]

info: Please wait while we connect you to a site operator.
info: You are now chatting with 'Isha'
Isha: Welcome to Red Flush Casino. How may I assist you?
Frank: I see you have closed my account
Isha: Yes - as per your request
Frank: and without giving me any notice
Frank: by email as you said
Isha: You requested to have your account closed and hence your account was closed
Frank: and I therefore ask you what are status on my return of deposit of $200
Isha: We cannot return deposits that you made at the casino and as for your withdrawal of $200.00 we need to see documents from you first before that can be paid
Frank: all chat are logged...remember that....
Frank: also from before !
Isha: That is fine Frank .
Frank: okay....I'll therefore report you to my bank tomorrow for fraud !
Frank: also check casinomeister !
Isha: And what fraud have we committed if I may ask ?
Frank: have a nice day.....thanks for your time
Isha: Pleasure then
info: Your chat transcript will be sent to ********** at the end of your chat.
Isha: Is there anything further that I can assist you with?

[aka23]

I think you are really out of line with this. As VW said, table limits should not influence the game odds. If you need to bet more than $50 per hand on BJ, then I'd suggest explaining this to a support or VIP rep in a less abrasive way that does not involve threatening a chargeback. There is a good chance that they would increase the table limits for you.

Requesting documents prior to a withdrawal is not at all unusual, even if you didn't wager. Some casinos will also require you to complete a small playthrough before permitting a withdrawal, to hinder money laundering.

[thebizb]

almost all casinos request some documentation before processing your withdraw whether you've played or not.

Secondly threatening them with casinomeister is way out of line. Instead of speaking with a vip rep or someone who can help with raising your limits you blow a lid and make yourself look like an ass. They're probably glad your gone i know i would be.

[lauram]

How can Casinomeister accredited a casino that makes unfair odds/play for players ?

I have deposit $200 at Red flush casino without any bonus, and found out that the limits on the table are still the same as with bonus (max $50) !....whats up with that (kids casino)...unfair play/odds of practic I say.

I mean they don't set limits on the slots the same way ???....WHY IS THAT I SAY ????

For the life of me im confused. You deposited 200 then saw table limits are set at 50 and want your money back. All your 200 would cover would be 4 bets.
If the limit was higher it would be 2 bets then. So I take it that if you won on a 100 bet you would of raced to that cashout button and been gone. This is the reason a lot of the casinos are looking into changing deposits with no bonuses making us have a playthrough. I fully understand after you showing your 200 deposit to make 2 bets why the casinos have lowered the limit on table games.

[maxd]

Sorry Frankensite but from where I stand your complaint seems totally spurious and unreasonable, hence the re-tag to "Bitch and Moan".

Also, as mentioned, using us as a threat against ANYONE, including a casino, is _very_ uncool and not at all condoned by us.

You should apologize to Red Flush and attempt to be more specific about what it is that has upset you. So far you are just coming off as if you're 'on tilt'.