Bitch and Moan Unfair Play/Odds - Red Flush Casino

[Casinomeister]

Hi Frankensite,

To be blunt, you're a player from hell.

I absolutely hate it when players like you badger customer support reps with threats that you'll post your complaint if you don't have your way. What a dweeb!

Way out of line - give me a good reason why I shouldn't suspend your posting privileges in the complaints section. That I'd like to hear.

Originally Posted by Frankensite

LAST CHAT BEFORE FRAUD CHARGE BACK AT BANK TOMORROW

Good way to have your forum account permanently banned.

[Balky]

The chat representatives remained very friendly and professional. I dont want to be offensive, but if thats your usual way of treating other people in conversations, then I wouldnt want to be one of your friends or family members.

Cheers Balky

[spearmaster]

Originally Posted by maxd

Sorry Frankensite but from where I stand your complaint seems totally spurious and unreasonable, hence the re-tag to "Bitch and Moan".

Also, as mentioned, using us as a threat against ANYONE, including a casino, is _very_ uncool and not at all condoned by us.

I would go so far as to say that this should be made a condition of membership at CM.

Players should not be allowed to use CM's name and reputation as a tool in their attempts to obtain a resolution.

[Casinomeister]

Well, it looks like Frankensite didn't like our criticizing his behaviour, so he's quit the forum. Too bad he quit instead of realizing and admitting the error of his ways.

But fine by me. B'bye and happy trails.

[chuchu59]

Well, he's gone and good riddance. Players like these should be rogued if there is such a thing.

[doomed4ever]

What a rude horrible person! Im bang with the casino on this one. I mean if he had deposited 20k then he could have made a point but 200 lol = 4 bets. And then his attidude awful.

[BrianBuzz]

Originally Posted by chuchu59

Well, he's gone and good riddance. Players like these should be rogued if there is such a thing.

Haha rogued players. Maybe they could be coupled with rogued casinos, matches made in...hell lol?

[Westland Bowl]

Originally Posted by doomed4ever

What a rude horrible person! Im bang with the casino on this one. I mean if he had deposited 20k then he could have made a point but 200 lol = 4 bets. And then his attidude awful.

I agree the player was awful in his attitude toward the casino and was mis-using the Casinomeister site in a blackmail way. But I believe he probably was using a progression betting strategy- remember, if you read my Heroes saga, I deposited $200 and the maximum limit was $500. I'm sure he wasn't wanting to do the maximum bet each hand but in case his progression betting grows, $50 is extremely low. I wonder if this thread has anything to do with the recent postings on my 3-year old City Club thread of similar circumstances with them? [I now see that City Club thread is closed.]

[vinylweatherman]

Originally Posted by Westland Bowl

I agree the player was awful in his attitude toward the casino and was mis-using the Casinomeister site in a blackmail way. But I believe he probably was using a progression betting strategy- remember, if you read my Heroes saga, I deposited $200 and the maximum limit was $500. I'm sure he wasn't wanting to do the maximum bet each hand but in case his progression betting grows, $50 is extremely low. I wonder if this thread has anything to do with the recent postings on my 3-year old City Club thread of similar circumstances with them? [I now see that City Club thread is closed.]

This might be so, but he seemed to launch straight into an abrasive attack. No fraud by the casino had been committed at that stage, as this would ONLY be the case were they to keep his deposit monies. The threat to chargeback at the bank has created stalemate. The casino cannot pay until they can be sure there will be no chargeback, and this could involve a lengthy delay.
Chats are logged, so upon review of what was posted here at least, the casino would have reason to believe the risk of chargeback in this case to be very high indeed, and would probably wait for the inevitable. This player would also be graded "high risk" with the processor, which may also process payments for many casinos.

With MGS software, it should be possible to enter the games BEFORE making a deposit, and check the maximum allowed chip size, which would be a good indicator of max bet. In MGS Blackjack, you can choose a chip size equal to the max bet, so if the max chip is $50, this is also the table limit.

Had the player explained they wanted to try a progressive betting strategy (if this was indeed the case), the casino should have said that they can have the $200 limit upgrade by sending in their documents, as in the long run the casino would stand to win.