InterCasino Incident - What is your opinion? (warning: REALLY long)

[Mouche12]

You all make sense, indeed. Still, the issue of the freezing games, which is the actual cause or core of this issue should be considered a major concern. But yeah, the player is responsible to check the betting value, but if game play is interrupted too frequently (check the casino logs), should the player also take the burden and all its consequences for that? We are talking about high bets after all and Intercasino IMO has assumed some responsibility by offering a 5,000 ND bonus, so they do realize that the correct way should be that the coin size remains unchanged when the game freezes and the player returns to the game. (Sorry for misinterpreting your statement, by the way).

[Scooter7]

You all make sense, indeed. Still, the issue of the freezing games, which is the actual cause or core of this issue should be considered a major concern. But yeah, the player is responsible to check the betting value, but if game play is interrupted too frequently (check the casino logs), should the player also take the burden and all its consequences for that? We are talking about high bets after all and Intercasino IMO has assumed some responsibility by offering a 5,000 ND bonus, so they do realize that the correct way should be that the coin size remains unchanged when the game freezes and the player returns to the game. (Sorry for misinterpreting your statement, by the way).

I wonder if he's using a wireless router? Mine works perfectly most of the time, but I have frequent disconnects when I use certain applications like Azureus (bit torrent client) and have to reset my router every 20-30 minutes. I'm certain that since my router is a $20 piece of crap and I probably don't even have it set up right, that it is the source of my trouble. I wonder if the same player on the same computer/connection would have the same problem on Inter's instant play site.

[Rusty]

While I agree with much of the sentiment 4ofakind has expressed and it is obvious most of the forum are in agreement it is my own personal feeling that this sort of thing belongs in PM as hinted at by Spearmaster.

That is just my personal opinion and if it helps the OP any to have these things expressed publicly then I will change my mind.

Maybe the fact his behaviour is obviously influenced by some of the things discussed by 4ofakind and these in turn helped him get suspended makes it fair topic of conversation though.
It just doesn't feel right to me to discuss someones personal issues (however well intentioned) on a public forum, especially when the said person can not post at that time. (I know you mention this 4ofakind and your intentions are perfectly good)
Am I being over sensitive here,?
So many people have nominated and thanked 4ofakinds post including CM it would seem so.

[bb28]

While I agree with much of the sentiment 4ofakind has expressed and it is obvious most of the forum are in agreement it is my own personal feeling that this sort of thing belongs in PM as hinted at by Spearmaster.

That is just my personal opinion and if it helps the OP any to have these things expressed publicly then I will change my mind.

Maybe the fact his behaviour is obviously influenced by some of the things discussed by 4ofakind and these in turn helped him get suspended makes it fair topic of conversation though.
It just doesn't feel right to me to discuss someones personal issues (however well intentioned) on a public forum, especially when the said person can not post at that time. (I know you mention this 4ofakind and your intentions are perfectly good)
Am I being over sensitive here,?
So many people have nominated and thanked 4ofakinds post including CM it would seem so.

You very eloquently stated what I had been thinking but hadn't been able to find the words for.
I feel sure that the intentions were good, but the content was too personal for a public forum, IMO, I think it would have been better if it had been via private PM. Who among us would want to be put on the defensive in such a personal way?

[4 of a kind]

While I agree with much of the sentiment 4ofakind has expressed and it is obvious most of the forum are in agreement it is my own personal feeling that this sort of thing belongs in PM as hinted at by Spearmaster.

That is just my personal opinion and if it helps the OP any to have these things expressed publicly then I will change my mind.

Maybe the fact his behaviour is obviously influenced by some of the things discussed by 4ofakind and these in turn helped him get suspended makes it fair topic of conversation though.
It just doesn't feel right to me to discuss someones personal issues (however well intentioned) on a public forum, especially when the said person can not post at that time. (I know you mention this 4ofakind and your intentions are perfectly good)
Am I being over sensitive here,?
So many people have nominated and thanked 4ofakinds post including CM it would seem so.

No Rusty you’re not being too sensitive at all about my comments.

It’s funny how “pm” never entered my mind until I actually read your post. If in fact my assumption turned out to be correct, I also see how my comments may have even a more negative effect from being in a public forum. Then again I guess I was hoping for more of a wake up call, and actually speaking from a great deal of experience being involved and around people gambling for over 30 years, in one form or another.

It’s embarrassing to even mention the amount of money I pissed away throughout my life. My wife, kids, friends, and family have no idea what I really lost. But I sure do…Some even think I was a successful gambler. (lol) Heck, I even owned at one time 50% of four thoroughbred race horses in New York. Of course I had a ball burning it up, but deep down inside today I regret every penny I lost. In addition I have nothing or anyone to blame. Aside from a joint here and there, I did all this sober. Gambling disorders can be just as bad as heroine. They both can take you out.

I didn’t become a reformed gambler until I started playing poker online somewhere in the late 90’s. Then I eventually also started playing online casinos. I always was (as odd as it may seem) a reasonable gambler online. Playing online also got the bug out of me and I lost the desire for my playground Atlantic City. After 20 years the novelty of the shows, suites, food, etc… was wearing off. It became all about the money. It got to the point that I would check into my room, go immediately to the casino, and even eat at the tables. The only time I visited the room was to shit, shower and shave, some fresh clothes and back downstairs. I must admit that sometimes expecting just to freshen up, I did pass out for a few hours. But somehow or maybe just getting older, today I get as much joy from a $5.00 dollar bet as I once did betting hundreds.

After a couple of years of online gambling, and getting older by the minute, I some how actually learned how to appreciate and respect what I had, even to this day. I can actually today go to Atlantic City for a poker tournament and not make another bet anywhere and come home.

I was lucky to own a very successful business from 1977 to 2005, and still involved today in a small way. Yet, there is no doubt my family and I could have eventually been on food stamps.

I have so many gambling stories actually facts about myself and others, I’m sure many of you will find interesting. I’m certain the opportunity will come when I get to share some with you.

I hope I didn’t bore anyone with this all about me stuff, but I also know no one here really knows anything about me. I still play online a great deal, and also visit this site often.

JHV is only 28 years old and once again even if he’s Bill Gate’s son, what I was reading was so alarming I had a burning desire to reach out. It would be a very sad thing if the opportunity he has at this young age to end up anything less then better off tomorrow as a result of gambling.

Still, Rusty and bb28 make extremely well thought out points.

I will admit that before I posted my opinion of JHV, and was reading over my post, I wasn’t sure if I should post it for some reason or feeling I had inside. I actually went back and added the first sentence. I guess what Rusty said must have been in my head somewhere.

The best scenario I could hope for is my comments are completely wrong.

And really hope I didn’t screw up or cross any personal lines.

But I do hope my comments are only treated as wisdom and sincere.

[bb28]

Wow! I just read your post, 4 of a kind and what a post it was, heartfelt, honest and sincere. Reading this makes it so much clearer why you reached out like you did.

I'm really glad that you are in a much better place now and thank you for sharing some not so pleasant moments in your life so that others might find some benefit in them, you didn't have to......... by any means.

[catrina m]

Yep. The bottom line is that we are adults and should take responsibility for our actions. Most of us a familiar with differing software and the nuances they all have, and we adjust to this. I could understand a player making a mistake "gee, I meant to bet this amount..." but to expect a casino to read one's mind and understand your intention does not make sense.

I could make the claim that I am a low roller and only deposited $25 and hit the bet max by mistake and wanted my deposit back.

Other end of the spectrum.

I respect the OPs post but I would not have gotten any consideration if I said I mistakenly hit the wrong amount.

[Rusty]

Thanks for sharing 4ofakind.
I had no doubt your intentions were honourable and your post was sincere and I had no problem with the content.
I hoped to make that clear in my post.
I simply felt the need to express my own personal view that these things are probably best done through PM even though I understand your motives are as valid as mine - there is no real right and wrong to it.

I am sure a lot of members would enjoy reading about your exploits so why not share some stories with us in the attic.
It would be great if JHV would come and join in too.
I am sure he has some stories to tell.

[chuchu59]

4 of a kind,

If the post wasnt made under your signature, I would have thought that I made that post as this is exactly my own story except that my visits were to Macau and floating casinos and while I didnt own any horses, they sure got a lot of my money over 3 decades.

[Jasminebed]

I recall one incident with an online casino where a player with a long history at a certain casino hit a max bet (or maybe was the game defaulted to $20) on a slot and did not notice for 5 spins. He had NEVER bet over $2.00, and the casino DID give him a $100 free chip as a good will gesture, because this was a player they chose to retain. He was a long time member here, and forum support for him was strong as well.

I've made a larger bet than I've intended at Intercasino because of the way their default bets work after returning to game.

IMO Intercasino had no legal or moral obligation to compensate JHV in any way. But I would have thought a player in that league would be worth retaining, and the condescending tone of their response would irritate even me. Especially the "bend the rules" comment...I'm sure there are lower depositors that belong to their VIP club. JMO.