Casino Club closed account of €167'500 JACKPOT winner

[Zodiac]

How i said i'm in contact with the rep here and today i got some more informations from him.

He said that he will contact him and i like to let this open, because this story seems to have a bigger size and he can't tell me unfortunately more in this case.

This informations i got i must reproach the player first and look what he say.


Holy Wholy recently this storys heaps itself

[elscrabinda]

Looking forward to hearing the details about this case. If it turns out there really was fraudulent behaviour going on and the player isn't allowed the funds, its worth making sure the jackpot finds its way back into the game instead of being pocketed by Casinoclub

[Rusty]

Looking forward to hearing the details about this case. If it turns out there really was fraudulent behaviour going on and the player isn't allowed the funds, its worth making sure the jackpot finds its way back into the game instead of being pocketed by Casinoclub

Was it a progressive jackpot or just a big hit?
I am curious also as to what the fraud might have been.
There is a lot of money involved in this one.

[elscrabinda]

Was it a progressive jackpot or just a big hit?
I am curious also as to what the fraud might have been.
There is a lot of money involved in this one.

progressive jackpot

[Zodiac]

progressive jackpot

right, it was exactly hit the Jackpot Poker €5

[elscrabinda]

Any news on this? The jackpot amount has not yet been returned to the Casino Club jackpot pool.

[thelawnet]

Did you read the whole thing?

The winning player posted once, long after the event, and then never replied again.

I wonder about those screenshots - thats a lot of money to just let slide if the claim is legitimate.

The jackpot was definitely hit. I remember it at the time, because I was playing it. As to *who* hit it, it's not known.

I cannot see how you can improperly hit a jackpot, but if it was fraud, the money belongs to the players, not the casino, and should be added back to the jackpot.

It's important to realise the difference between a progressive jackpot and a normal one. A normal jackpot is paid by the casino. So if a player comes to the casino with a screwdriver and fiddles with the machine and hits the jackpot first spin, they are cheating the casino. But if they do the same on a progressive they are cheating the players. The players should get their money back.

It does not belong to the casino, they have misappropriated €142,000 profit on top of the profit made from the game itself (which is 0.5% at the least, but more like 5% in practice because the players are chasing the jackpot).

Any non-payment of progressive jackpots should result in IMMEDIATE return of the money to the jackpot pool.

Assuming this player did win the jackpot, there are two options:

1. the player should be paid (most likely IMO)
2. the player should not be paid, and the money should be returned to the jackpot.

Otherwise this is very serious rogue behaviour on a massive scale.

If casinos can get added to the rogue pit for terminating affiliate agreements, what should happen if they make off with €142,000 of player funds!??!

[thelawnet]

From that I can make out, the player did win the jackpot, but the casino is claiming he is a long-time 'abuser'. No idea what that means:

Dieser Spieler CLB ...... ist ein alter missbräuchlicher Spieler an Kasinoklub.
Sein Konto ist für eine lange Zeit und gesetzliche Verfahren geschlossen worden, die gegen ihn eingeleitet wurden.

Dies war vor Monaten und wir haben von Ihm seit
unser Rechtsanwalt Ihm eine Postnotifikation geschickt hat, nichts mehr gehört.

Dies ist das erste mal, das ich von Ihm seitdem
höre.

'This player CLB is a long-time abusive player at Casino Club. His account has been open a long time, and legal proceedings have been issued against him.

This happened months ago and this is the first we have heard from him.'

I'm not sure what this means, but it's appears that Casino Club have stolen €142,000 of player funds.

The player says he contacted a lawyer to sue them in Germany but the lawyer said he had to do so in Malta.

As we have seen Malta is a joke and refuge of casinos that do whatever they like with no fear of reproach.

The proof of the jackpot is here.

http://www.jackpotgraphs.com/graphs/...t-poker-5.html

Casino Club have stolen this money.

[zenderady]

as i don't speak german i used google translator to read the thread.
this is a quote from the player that had his winnings denied:

"Casino Club next only tells tales.

Communication by Max: My PAB at Casino Meister has been closed since CC claimed any legal proceedings initiated against me to have because of fraud.
That is all lies. So I would be the first of these experiences but nothing has happened since 4 months. There is still no reason why CC is ~ 200 thousand of me has einverleibt."

make whatever you want of it

[SteveCut]

So this known "long term abuser" was allowed to continue to play - until he won!