Redflush?

[suzecat]

Sorry Suzecat, I was out of line on that one. Emotions get to running high you know. I do appreciate that you understand that there are probably many who wonder about this as I do. My apologies to you for my shill comment.

For the record, I am a shill for Crapmeister casino....in fact, I am the affiliate! :

[GaryWatson]

I think a lot of bad taste come from the over zealous love of microgaming. People are over defensive of any microgaming site. I can fully understand people liking a particular site. I do & have many sites I swear by.

I have a problem with microgaming sites. I figure it has more to do with my PC that it has the sites so I chose to generally avoid them.

I've noticed a few members attack microgaming sites only to get slammed down. Not moderators but groups of members. I'm not in the position to question the reliability of microgamings software but I do see people losing the plot when they question the group, like they would any other site and get ganged up on.

I dont really know what site is with what group but I can generally tell by the nature of the threads.

For all I know, they might be the best group on the internet but due to issues I have with their software and my lack of casino play in general, I cant really make any comparison.

I like to play at partypoker, pokerstars or full tilt above all other poker sites. I will reccomend them to anyone but occasionally I do have an issue. I dont jump in a thread on attack mode because someone puts them down. I think the problem lies there.

[dominique]

Dominique, by follow suit I mean why don't the others put people in place to pay the same way that 3D does. Can you understand that now?? The whole tough payment thing is a myth that you and others are reinforcing. If it is so damn difficult, explain why some can and some can't. Yes, these are my opinions just as your statements are.

Ok, sure I understand.

I'll tell you what, if you manage to get 3D to give up who their processor is, I'll be happy to see to it that the other casinos use the same one.

Heck, I bet you could make a lot of money for scouting that out for them.

I don't think you read that article, or you did and missed all the facts.

I am out of this thread now, I really dislike flames.

Gary, I'm not in this thread because it's about a microgaming casino, I am here because I think that we all need to understand how processing works. A lot of people seem to think it's as simple as walking to the bank and paying for a certified check. It is far from that, there is a prohibition in place that disallows banks from knowingly passing your payment to you. It causes complications.

[pacers31]

Dominique, there is no withdrawl processor, it is individuals purchasing and mailing MOs. The bank wire withdrawls I've received are from 3Dice itself. SO, keep on feeding this misinformation. Are you an affiliate by any chance? That would help explain your defense of the indefensible. Hey, you jumped into this, don't blame me!!
Oh, and what is this complete credibility you place in this article?? How do you really know? Again, speculation and nothing more. Do you honestly believe everything you read on the internet??

[pacers31]

And Dominique, what makes you so sure that you are an expert on how all this works?? You sure do act as if you do.

[Simmo!]

Please take up personal issues by PM and lets get back to the original topic please. We're on a derail..

[GaryWatson]

Simmo,

There is no reason not to have companies self promote. I think that promotes a good relationship with the forum. MG is trusted within the meisters forum.
Personally, I feel we have over enthusiastic shills, basically telling us they work for MG & putting down any complaint.

As I have stated, I dont know much about MG so I cannot really comment on that, but I know there is a big rift, and that is over MG.

Several members have spoken about getting jumped on. FFS, a shills job is to promote a site, not cause doubt.

I dont care if there are shills or not on this site. They can promote away. CM seems to be the best resource on the internet for rogue sites, but MG shills should just learn to advertize their good points, not cause a divide within a community which I feel has been pretty good. After all, most people found this site for the same reasons.

IMO, the shills out here should act on the positive points and avoid the attacks.

CM is one of the best gaming sites on the internet. We wont always agree, but probably everyone has benefited from the information. I dont think shills such, I think unskilled shills suck. I dont think CM would risk his long term rep on promoting crap

[pacers31]

Sorry Gary, but I found your post hard to follow.

[bb28]

The original OP had a valid complaint with a check payout from Red Flush and someone else chimed in with another complaint concerning checks.

I fail to see how Dominique answering questions about payout methods could be considered shill behavior. She was trying to help us understand why check payouts are so problematic if you are in the US, which is definitely related to what the original ops question/complaint was about.

This thread is getting even more derailed with stuff about shills Gary and I'm not getting why you threw that in, at all.

[GaryWatson]

My Point?

I would like to see an end to all the bickering.

I like this forum, I respect what they do.

I know there are MG shills, like every or site who is promoting.

I dont have a prob with shills, I have a prob with members getting jumped on for speaking their mind (over eager shills).

I think shills should learn how to post to promote their site other than saying the site is amazing and abusing the poster.

I would like to see an end to this.