Redflush?

[pacers31]

Well vinyl, whatever the case, if one can do it, so can others. Obviously 3Dice has people positioned here to purchase and mail the MOs to it's customers. I don't believe it is a matter of some magic that 3Dice has exclusive rights to, they just made a great business decision to give their site tremendous credibility as far as payouts are concerned. Of course it costs money to do it right, which may in part explain the shitty results many seem to get from their games. Unfortunately quick and easy payouts are just that "quick and easy" when very few are winning!!

[bb28]

A money order isn't the same thing as a check, but to echo what has already been said about 3 Dice. 3 Dice is just one casino and probably a small one in comparison to the big MG casino's, so they are able to give more priority to quick payouts.
I'm not saying it's right or fair........but it's the way it is.

Pacers....here is a link to an article I found about this very issue and how difficult it is for a casino to get a check to you. I don't know how accurate it is but it is very interesting.
http://spaces.covers.com/blog/blog.a...money.html&t=0

[pacers31]

bb, I read that article awhile back. What I can't understand is why a small, stand alone casino can provide the quick payout, and the mega HUGE groups cannot. MO or check, shouldn't matter. There really is no excuse for the big outfits not to provide the same thing. Are you saying that MG, RTG, etc. cannot do what 3Dice does?? If so, why the hell not! My feeling is that it is a deliberate stall, nothing more.

[dominique]

Pacers....here is a link to an article I found about this very issue and how difficult it is for a casino to get a check to you. I don't know how accurate it is but it is very interesting.
http://spaces.covers.com/blog/blog.a...money.html&t=0

It's quite accurate.

[pacers31]

How do you know this Dominique??

[bb28]

Pacers I'm not going to get into a he said, she said contest, there isn't any point. I don't have the answers for you, we all are speculating to some degree. I don't think anyone here is privy to the inside operation of how a casino pays their players, if they are, they aren't talking about it for all the obvious reasons. I found that article very interesting and actually it is scary when you think about some of the things that were mentioned in it.
I doubt the big boys do a deliberate stall.......why would they? It drives away their customers and just pisses people off. If I had asked for a check and it took weeks to get it......I won't be playing there again, would you? As for the some of the RTG's that have a less than stellar reputation.....I don't doubt it for a minute that they use it as an excuse.
We in the US have the UIGEA to thank for a lot of the issues with checks.

bb, I read that article awhile back. What I can't understand is why a small, stand alone casino can provide the quick payout, and the mega HUGE groups cannot. MO or check, shouldn't matter. There really is no excuse for the big outfits not to provide the same thing. Are you saying that MG, RTG, etc. cannot do what 3Dice does?? If so, why the hell not! My feeling is that it is a deliberate stall, nothing more.

[pacers31]

That still doesn't explain why some can and some can't bb. It kind of bothers me when some posters claim things as fact when they really don't know the true answer. Believe what you want, but until I get some sort of proof that it is so damn difficult for others to pay quickly, I can only assume that these sites are making a conscience effort to stall. Think about it, when people here believe that it is difficult, it gives these operations a built in excuse to make things hard on the player.

Max, I still await your answer as to whether CM is compensated by the accredited sites.

[chuchu59]

There are bound to be some casinos who use these tactics to stall payments. However, these casinos will also try to delay payments to e-wallets as well. The Casino Rewards casinos spring to mind. Although everything was in perfect order, they only sent payment to my MB account more than a week after I initiated a withdrawal. Therefore, we could try to differentiate the bad from the good by trying to realise whether they process withdrawals quickly to e-wallets. If so, the delays may be genuine as they dont want the risk of US players not returning just because of this.

On the accredited casinos query, I have the utmost faith in CM's integrity. The whole gaming industry is very volatile and the casinos are trying hard to grab a share of the gambling dollar which is shrinking due to the exit of many US customers and the introduction of the Rival casinos and 3Dice. We should understand that, despite CM's efforts, there is still a possibility that casinos may be accredited one day and become rogue the next day although that is taking things to extremes. Take Eurolinx for example. They were accredited but were delisted because of a player issue. That shows that Bryan does take his accredited list very seriously although the action that could possibly be taken is not as fast as we hope. However, he needs to allow both sides (player and casino) to present their sides of the stories. We should not get our emotions to get the better of us. CM has assisted many a player to get his winnings and just because we tend to get over-suspicious at times we should not just believe in our gut feelings nor succumb to conspiracy theories. I am not saying the guy is infalliable but we need proof of him acting wrongly instead of requiring proof to the contrary. We cant ask BB28 to show us anything she has no access to.

Let's put it this way. Although there is an accredited list, we should also be wary because we are gambling with our own money. The list is definitely useful especially for newbies but just because something goes awry it does not mean that Bryan is responsible. At least he has communication channels with the casinos in question and more often than not he and MaxD will come up with a solution. Think of what might have happened were it not an accredited casino. You might not be able to get any assistance and you are on your own. Happy gaming mate.

[bb28]

That still doesn't explain why some can and some can't bb. It kind of bothers me when some posters claim things as fact when they really don't know the true answer. Believe what you want, but until I get some sort of proof that it is so damn difficult for others to pay quickly, I can only assume that these sites are making a conscience effort to stall. Think about it, when people here believe that it is difficult, it gives these operations a built in excuse to make things hard on the player.

Max, I still await your answer as to whether CM is compensated by the accredited sites.

OK.......Pacers if you want to nitpick, I didn't make myself clear on this comment. "It's a well known fact that a check withdrawal for US players is going to be problematic."
I should have said that it's a fact that many posters here at CM have had problems with check withdrawal. Feel better now?

I'm not trying to present anything as fact......I'm just like you, I've drawn my own conclusions from what I've read here and other places and the article that I provided the link to.....well that is the most interesting thing I've read on online gambling in a long time.

We all have our opinions about it.....and it's a good discussion.

[maxd]

Max, I still await your answer as to whether CM is compensated by the accredited sites.

"Still await"? Excuse me, but I need as good a night's sleep as everybody else.

The answer is of course not! That would kind of defeat the purpose wouldn't it?

Frankly I'm surprised you've even asked that. Someone with as much experience here as you have certainly ought to know that sites are listed as Accredited, or de-listed, depending solely on their performance, reputation, and openness. Read the Accreditation page: it's not advertising copy you know, what's said there is how it really works.