Absolute Poker Blackjack

[SeattleSinner]

I have been playing BJ at AP for some time and have noticed that I haven't had one winning session. However when I play for fake I win thousands. Now in spite of the scandal with the poker I wouldn't put it past these crooks that there BJ game is rigged as well. Has anyone audited, or noticed the weird patterns I have experienced.

[maxd]

I don't mean to sound like I'm splitting hairs here but the AP issue wasn't "rigged" software but software that had a back door built into it. I'm not making any comment on your BJ observations, just that the poker issues aren't really the same thing.

When people say "rigged" in terms of casino games they usually be where the odds have been stacked against them, whereas the AP poker issue is an entirely different matter.

[SeattleSinner]

I think you were missing my point. I know they are not related, however a breach in security in one place makes me question their honesty and security of the site as a whole.

[pokeraddict]

Originally Posted by SeattleSinner

I think you were missing my point. I know they are not related, however a breach in security in one place makes me question their honesty and security of the site as a whole.

I have 5 accounts at AP and they all get a free $10-$15 every 6 weeks or so. I usually just go play BJ with it. Out of the endless times I've done this only once have I ever not busted within 20 hands or so at $1/hand. There is no way I would play that game with my own money.

[SlotsWizard]

And you guys aren't the only ones who have questioned the fairness of their blackjack. Bernynhel has also stated that their blackjack is highly suspicious.

Generally speaking, I don't think it's good to play games at places that aren't meant for them, i.e., blackjack at a poker room, video poker at a bingo site, etc.

Blackjack, with its notoriously low house edge, is always an easy target for cheaters... so it wouldn't surprise me if Absolute Poker has a hidden higher house edge than most other blackjacks.

There are two reasons why a company will offer blackjack:
1) It's a fun game enjoyed by millions of gamblers, and an honest game of blackjack will keep the player coming back

and

2) It's a fun game enjoyed by millions of gamblers, but not very profitable so in order for the house to make any money off it, it needs to be rigged

I think casinos offer blackjack because of reason #1, and poker/bingo/other sites offer blackjack because of reason #2

[peteyweestro]

knowing ap track record why would you dare to risk your own money in their other web site its the same company, if they will cheat at poker they will cheat at bj

[djackson]

Originally Posted by SeattleSinner

I have been playing BJ at AP for some time and have noticed that I haven't had one winning session. However when I play for fake I win thousands. Now in spite of the scandal with the poker I wouldn't put it past these crooks that there BJ game is rigged as well. Has anyone audited, or noticed the weird patterns I have experienced.

RUN don't WALK

[maxd]

Originally Posted by SeattleSinner

I think you were missing my point. I know they are not related, however a breach in security in one place makes me question their honesty and security of the site as a whole.

No, I understood your point. I just pointed out that there was a difference. And you'll note that I didn't disagree with your conclusion.

[Eliot Jacobson]

Originally Posted by SeattleSinner

Has anyone audited, or noticed the weird patterns I have experienced.

SS,

I would be glad to look at a sample of hands and give you my opinion -- I would need a fairly large sample (not millions of hands; but a few thousand would be helpful).

--Eliot

[lots0]

I would be glad to look at a sample of hands and give you my opinion -- I would need a fairly large sample (not millions of hands; but a few thousand would be helpful).

I'd like to see that.
However, I don't have any hand histories and I'm willing to bet that AP wouldn't give me one, even if I asked nice.

Anyone got any AP blackjack hand histories they would like to share?