Carnival Casino. (Am i really in the wrong?)

[Nifty29]

Where in the TERMS is it listed that winnings can be confiscated ? It is only stated they will review the use of bonuses for real money play if they spot irregular playing patterns. That means they may stop offering bonuses and even close the account in question but they must pay up.

Here it is Chu:

"11.6 Your use of any Bonuses is subject to our review for irregular playing patterns. To ensure fair gaming, we consider low margin, equal, zero bets or hedge betting to be irregular gaming for the use of Bonuses. Further examples of irregular playing patterns also include, but are not limited to: (i) placing single or multiple bets on any single game that sums over the value of seventy percent or more of the bonus credited with the intention of clearing the Bonus until the release requirements have been met; (ii) if we suspect you have attempted to use a Bonus contrary to the spirit of the promotional offering; (iii) if we suspect that you have sought to deviously profit from a Bonus offered by us in good faith (for example, the acceptance of a Bonus, wagering the minimum amount and immediately withdrawing the funds). In the event that we deem that an irregular playing pattern has taken place, we reserve the right to prevent you from cashing out Player Account funds and/or withhold any of your winnings derived from your use of the Bonus."

[bianca110]

I would say it was a 50% bonus.

If the player made bets of more than seventy percent of the bonus then they broke an explicit term. It would not be a spirit of the bonus issue. If one is going to use advantage play like this they need to be more attentive. I'm sure they'll get plenty of sympathy over at bonerbeaters.com

Even if it was a 100% bonus, the average bet was $110 which means they could well have bet more than $140 on a few hands. In fact, if they were playing max bet of $100 its almost certain due to double downs or splits etc.

Hi There all.

The bonus was in fact deposit 200 get 400 bonus. Si i have defiantly not broke there term of 70% of the bonus.....

B

[bianca110]

Trying to give a little help....I know that this Carnival is part of the same group of Swiss, King and others.Reading into other forums I've seen that they're not very honest even if you respect their rules, they found ever something , if you have to cash out.

So , if one play there, have to pay double attention.Maybe this time they're right, unfortunately, but I'm not so sure.I think this is a quite borderline situation.

Hope the best for you, crossing my fingers.

Thanks. We will see what is said. A couple of people said i should PAB. Should i do that next?

[bianca110]

Here it is Chu:

"11.6 Your use of any Bonuses is subject to our review for irregular playing patterns. To ensure fair gaming, we consider low margin, equal, zero bets or hedge betting to be irregular gaming for the use of Bonuses. Further examples of irregular playing patterns also include, but are not limited to: (i) placing single or multiple bets on any single game that sums over the value of seventy percent or more of the bonus credited with the intention of clearing the Bonus until the release requirements have been met; (ii) if we suspect you have attempted to use a Bonus contrary to the spirit of the promotional offering; (iii) if we suspect that you have sought to deviously profit from a Bonus offered by us in good faith (for example, the acceptance of a Bonus, wagering the minimum amount and immediately withdrawing the funds). In the event that we deem that an irregular playing pattern has taken place, we reserve the right to prevent you from cashing out Player Account funds and/or withhold any of your winnings derived from your use of the Bonus."

So do you think i have done anything wrong

Thanks.

[heador112]

First of all i have to say that your user profile looks suspicious . You are probably a "gnome" identity of a fraudster .


Why i think that ?

Because of your stereotype account details

"Interests
Shopping (typical girl) and casinos
Occupation
Hair dresser"



Sounds like a man who want to look like a woman

No woman would write something like " typical girl" this is bullshit and not very smart .

[heador112]

Hi There all.

The bonus was in fact deposit 200 get 400 bonus. Si i have defiantly not broke there term of 70% of the bonus.....

B

Ok Mr. Bianca here is the official reason from there terms :

" Further examples of irregular playing patterns also include...........

(ii) placing large bets which result in a substantial gain followed by a drop in bet size equal to or more than seventy five percent of the previous average bet size until the bonus release requirements have been met "


When you grinded out the Wr , after you hit your target, you changed from more then 100 average bet to something like 10 , so you have violatet the 70 % rule

[Nifty29]

Ok Mr. Bianca here is the official reason from there terms :

" Further examples of irregular playing patterns also include...........

(ii) placing large bets which result in a substantial gain followed by a drop in bet size equal to or more than seventy five percent of the previous average bet size until the bonus release requirements have been met "


When you grinded out the Wr , after you hit your target, you changed from more then 100 average bet to something like 10 , so you have violatet the 70 % rule

I have to say it is an awful term as it seems to apply to all games including slots

However, it's there......so the OP is probably SOL.

[spiderlegz]

Ok Mr. Bianca here is the official reason from there terms :

" Further examples of irregular playing patterns also include...........

(ii) placing large bets which result in a substantial gain followed by a drop in bet size equal to or more than seventy five percent of the previous average bet size until the bonus release requirements have been met "


When you grinded out the Wr , after you hit your target, you changed from more then 100 average bet to something like 10 , so you have violatet the 70 % rule

Those terms werent in place when OP played. Notice that also

(i) placing single or multiple bets of a value of fifty percent or more of the bonus on any single game, individual hand, or round, building a balance and significantly changing play patterns (bet size, game types, bet structures etc) in order to meet the bonus release requirement;
has changed. So current terms are irrelevant.
They of course forgot to mention when these terms were changed, sometime this month. Shows what a shitty group this is. Play there and you have to check the TOS every single time you login.

Plus such vital terms should be mentioned in the bonus T&Cs and not buried in the standard TOS.

Swiss casino and other crapholes in the group all have changed to identical terms. As maxd was succesful in the Swiss casino case () PAB ASAP.

[bianca110]

First of all i have to say that your user profile looks suspicious . You are probably a "gnome" identity of a fraudster .


Why i think that ?

Because of your stereotype account details

"Interests
Shopping (typical girl) and casinos
Occupation
Hair dresser"



Sounds like a man who want to look like a woman

No woman would write something like " typical girl" this is bullshit and not very smart .

In Fact heador112 i set my account up in a rush to post my thread. But thanks for offending me..

Thanks to everyone though for your comments and help with this. Im still unsure though who i should contact to see if i am defiantly in the wrong.

Thanks

B

[bianca110]

Those terms werent in place when OP played. Notice that also

(i) placing single or multiple bets of a value of fifty percent or more of the bonus on any single game, individual hand, or round, building a balance and significantly changing play patterns (bet size, game types, bet structures etc) in order to meet the bonus release requirement;
has changed. So current terms are irrelevant.
They of course forgot to mention when these terms were changed, sometime this month. Shows what a shitty group this is. Play there and you have to check the TOS every single time you login.

Plus such vital terms should be mentioned in the bonus T&Cs and not buried in the standard TOS.

Swiss casino and other crapholes in the group all have changed to identical terms. As maxd was succesful in the Swiss casino case () PAB ASAP.

Hi there,

Have i read your thread right? When i signed up to carnival there term they are saying i broke was not there then?

Thanks

B