iNetBet VS tklein

**lauram** · 22nd May 2009, 05:28 PM

The size of that coupon would not allow them to list all the games you cannot play. So instead they couldnt of made it any easier then saying SLOTS only.

**Pinababy69** · 22nd May 2009, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by tklein

Wow, your the one that never makes a mistake....nice for you

If it was BJ of some kind of table game it would be another thing.

I don't say I was right playing Bonus Bingo. But in this coupon they only mention their T+Cs. And there it says:BJ...is restricted game."

Nothing about
"With game specific bonuses, monies can only be used on given game. "

That's right, the coupon itself says normal T&C's apply, which you obviously read as you are quoting them. So how did you miss:

With game specific bonuses, monies can only be used on given game.

It's right there on the same page, in the same paragraph.

Again, I'm sorry, but IMO, you have no complaint. You made a mistake, as you say....not much can be done about it.

I would guess you could PAB with Max, but why waste his time or your own? The terms are pretty clear, and the error was your own, not the casino's.

EDIT: As Rob did in an earlier thread today, I'm going to ask for a thread title change, so as to not negatively impact Inetbet in search engine rankings. Yes, they voided your winnings, but they voided them because you played a game you shouldn't have.

**Jasminebed** · 22nd May 2009, 05:49 PM

tklein, I'm sorry that you didn't read and understand the SLOTS ONLY coupon that clearly says deposit and bonus must be wagered on slots only.

Even though you lost with the bonus bingo, you still played part of your deposit.

Some of the lessons we learn in life are harder than others. If you have any doubts about a promotion, ask support! I know that Inetbet in particular is a little frustrating for that, because they do not offer telephone or livechat support, and you must email support and await an answer.

And with Inetbet, I'm pretty sure you cannot go on and play any game you like even after meeting the WR...withdraw your funds and make another deposit. I'm not sure if you can deposit at Inet while a withdrawal is pending, you would have to check with support on this one.

Sorry for the hard lesson, but next time you will be more cautious when using coupons or bonuses I'm sure.

**maxd** · 22nd May 2009, 05:56 PM

FWIW we're seeing more and more of this "Terms said X but I understood Y" stuff. It's usually based on a reading of the applicable Terms such that some confusion could be understood. We're getting pretty sick of it.

The bottom line in a case like this has got to be on a "reasonable" understanding of what is written. If you can misinterpret the Terms by standing on your head and blowing bubbles then bully for you, but that's no grounds to penalize the casino for not having Terms that were beyond your ability to misread them.

In a case like this if the Terms said "must be wagered on slots" then that's what it means .. ON SLOTS. I really don't care what "yes but I understood something else" argument you come up with, you are still bound to play it out ON SLOTS.

I'm not going to pre-judge tklein in case they do choose to PAB but I can tell you right now that if the Terms read "must be wagered on slots" then you have no business playing anything else. If you do you have broken the Terms and can expect all the disappointment that doing so usually brings to you.

It's high time that players started treating casino Terms as their responsibility too. If you see something that is open to interpretation then ask the casino for a clarification. If you proceed without doing so and screw up then you'll probably end up on the pointy side of the Terms and that's what you get for being sloppy and foolish. "Be Stupid, Expect Pain" needs to be on every player's lips.

Does that sound cold, harsh, cruel or unfair? Well it isn't, it's called being a grown up and that's what you're supposed to be.

**Pinababy69** · 22nd May 2009, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by maxd

FWIW we're seeing more and more of this "Terms said X but I understood Y" stuff. It's usually based on a reading of the applicable Terms such that some confusion could be understood. We're getting pretty sick of it.

The bottom line in a case like this has got to be on a "reasonable" understanding of what is written. If you can misinterpret the Terms by standing on your head and blowing bubbles then bully for you, but that's no grounds to penalize the casino for not having Terms that were beyond your ability to misread them.

In a case like this if the Terms said "must be wagered on slots" then that's what it means .. ON SLOTS. I really don't care what "yes but I understood something else" argument you come up with, you are still bound to play it out ON SLOTS.

I'm not going to pre-judge tklein in case they do choose to PAB but I can tell you right now that if the Terms read "must be wagered on slots" then you have no business playing anything else. If you do you have broken the Terms and can expect all the disappointment that doing so usually brings to you.

It's high time that players started treating casino Terms as their responsibility too. If you see something that is open to interpretation then ask the casino for a clarification. If you proceed without doing so and screw up then you'll probably end up on the pointy side of the Terms and that's what you get for being sloppy and foolish. "Be Stupid, Expect Pain" needs to be on every player's lips.

Does that sound cold, harsh, cruel or unfair? Well it isn't, it's called being a grown up and that's what you're supposed to be.

Completely agree Max, and I had been going to post something very similar. Yes, it is a casino's responsibility to write as clear and concise as possible T&C's. But it is a player's responsibility to act with a modicum of COMMON SENSE. Would anyone here claim a coupon titled "100% Video Poker Match", and then proceed to start playing on slots? You may want to check the terms to verify the types of Video Poker allowed/disallowed, but beyond that, there is no ambiguity. The bonus is intended for play on Video Poker.

End of story for me. And thanks for the title change.

**tklein** · 22nd May 2009, 07:53 PM

C'mon.

In how many casinos with exactly these terms, it is allowed to play all the games that are not on the clearly stated restricted game list. In this case, it's Bj, Craps, Roulette....

When you play the other games, they just do not count towards the wagering requirements.

And even if played restr. games, they would normally void only the winnings of the restricted game played. Not all winnings.

When I left Bonus Bingo, I hadn't won. All winnings came from Slots. And after it, I havn't played on BB anymore.

It's just unfair. My mistake to play Bonus Bingo didn't give me ANY advantage. Rather the other way round. Bonus Bingo bonuses have a 10x playthrough normally, in contrast to my bonus, which had a 20x WR

**chuchu59** · 22nd May 2009, 08:23 PM

I wouldnt call it unfair. Many casinos use these terms to trap the unwary and it's a ploy to not pay out if you win. Once you play a restricted game, you either proceed to lose your deposit or have your winnings voided. The casino is in a winning position. Some other RTG casinos have terms and conditions to the effect that any winnings derived from restricted games will be confiscated if wagering requirements have not been met yet. Yes, it doesnt make sense but that's the way it is. The terms and conditions were worded like that deliberately to catch unwary players and I think you are pretty much screwed.

**jod5413** · 22nd May 2009, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by tklein

Wow, your the one that never makes a mistake....nice for you

I really love your attitude as a newbie here! Way to make friends!

All these forum members have tried to show you your mistake, all are polite and friendly, trying to help you understand. In spite of your whining, pissing and moaning about it.

I definitely would say, you are getting a free pass on this one. And you should consider being more attentive to the T&C's when you take bonuses in the future.

**oldtrvlagt** · 22nd May 2009, 09:47 PM

Sorry but IMHO you need to suck it up and cut your losses. I claimed a "Scratch Card" bonus one time a long time ago (was in a hurry and didn't look at it carefully..my bi-focals were probably smudged

), and played slots. I won some and then looked at my playthrough and it hadn't moved. I emailed support to find out what was going on and they informed me I was playing on the WRONG coupon. They were very nice about it....they did deduct my excess (about $350) and let me start over with my deposit and bonus for the SCRATCH CARD. Lesson learned..I now read VERY carefully the bonuses T & C's.

**vegetagirl2008** · 23rd May 2009, 01:08 AM

You know what they say "Reading is Fundamantal" before you took the bonus it always good to read before you deposit and take any bonus. It might not seem fair to you but those their terms. No one is coming down on you we are just telling you how it is and to sugar coat it would be wrong and not fair to you.