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    Quote Originally Posted by Jufo View Post

    How difficult is it to program a line of code so that if you go play a restricted game, you would get a pop-up screen warning that all your winnings will be void?
    Not hard at all. But then they wouldn't make any money.....

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    Knocked out in the first round.
    First dozen went missing for 20 spins so using “1 2 3 4 6 9 13 20 30 45 67 101 151 227 340 staking @ $0.50 starting after seventh spin they’ve got my $50 (wouldn't if still had the $2000 )
    Will now study all the free helpful advice and take full advantage of my $50 lesson.
    Thanks again for all replies so far
    (slowly getting used to the bells and whistles on this forum)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jufo View Post
    How difficult is it to program a line of code so that if you go play a restricted game, you would get a pop-up screen warning that all your winnings will be void?
    Actually, to be fair, once you've considered the exceptions and the cross-checking and the verifications and the this and the that, it's probably more like 1000 lines of code. (Software Engineer in a previous life)
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxd View Post
    Actually, to be fair, once you've considered the exceptions and the cross-checking and the verifications and the this and the that, it's probably more like 1000 lines of code. (Software Engineer in a previous life)
    Well, they still have been able to code pop-up screen with "You have no funds. Would you like to make a deposit?"

    Quote Originally Posted by in2wishion
    Will now study all the free helpful advice and take full advantage of my $50 lesson.
    That's a good additude. 50$ is actually small price to pay if you learn to play smarter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by in2wishion View Post
    "Dear in2wishion, Thank you for choosing Casino Tropez. This is Todd from the Support Team, please be informed that we have blocked your account from receiving anybonuses. You would be able to play the games that you like without thewagering requirements. Have a nice day! With any more questions, please do not hesitate to contact the Casino TropezSupport Team 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Best Regards, ToddCasino Tropez"Where you are the Star!""

    Let battle commence!
    How about:-

    Dear Todd,

    Thank you,

    Could you now please block my account from receiving any deposits, so that I may play the games I like at another casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwin View Post
    hi

    regarding excluding roulette for meeting wagering requirements:

    some casino software allows the player to bet on black and red or odd and even at the same time (aka "even chance wagering" - it is also allowed in most brick and mortar casinos) - so on an European Roulette table you can easily wager a lot of money without running at high risk (the odds to hit a 0 are only ~2,7%) - this in combination with comp points or something similar can end up in a house advantage lower then zero (that's why it works for brick and mortar casinos - they don't have any form of cash back in form of comp points). so it is quite obvious that they as an operator therefore have to exclude Roulette, otherwise they would lose serious money.

    I hope this explains the "why" to you :-)

    best regards

    Benjamin
    What are you talking about.

    Every bet on the European roulette wheel has a house advantage of ~2.7%. I don't care if you bet one number, 5 numbers, or every number on the damn board. Betting red/black simultaneously doesn't change that. Show me one casino on the planet offering comps equivalent to 2.7% of your total action. There aren't any.

    The restriction doesn't exist to protect casinos from advantage players. The restriction exists solely to fleece players. Period.

    Casinos which allow blackjack to clear a bonus but disallow roulette either suck at math, are looking to steal money from ignorant players who claim bonuses without reading the terms, or more likely, both.

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    I'm sure many people read the comment by the Bwin rep, and shook their heads in wonderment. It is the case that many casinos do not really understand the nature of the business they are in. On balance, I feel this is for the best...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Disorder View Post
    I'm sure many people read the comment by the Bwin rep, and shook their heads in wonderment. It is the case that many casinos do not really understand the nature of the business they are in. On balance, I feel this is for the best...
    I'm sure many people read the comment by the Bwin rep and just assume that he's telling the truth. Your average player here has next to no mathematical knowledge of the games he is playing. So when a rep says that betting red and black simultaneously is a no risk bet, they believe him.

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