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    All Microgaming slots auto-updating?

    I've tried launching three different MG casinos across three different PCs this evening, and they all immediately start background downloading.

    Seems to be a small update to each game rather than one overarching update, certainly all the slots I've tried so far have a brief downloading period before launching, and this is despite every PC having a complete cache of all games in the C:\ProgramData\MGS\cache folder prior to today. (Has been stable at about 10.1GB for quite a while.)

    I'm sure there's nothing sinister going on but one does wonder what the update is, I can understand a client software update, or new games being downloaded, but what needs changing on ancient games like Boogie Monsters? (Unless I'm mis-reading what's happening, but it seems odd that every individual game has a 'downloading' pause when launched.)



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChopleyIOM View Post
    I've tried launching three different MG casinos across three different PCs this evening, and they all immediately start background downloading.

    Seems to be a small update to each game rather than one overarching update, certainly all the slots I've tried so far have a brief downloading period before launching, and this is despite every PC having a complete cache of all games in the C:\ProgramData\MGS\cache folder prior to today. (Has been stable at about 10.1GB for quite a while.)

    I'm sure there's nothing sinister going on but one does wonder what the update is, I can understand a client software update, or new games being downloaded, but what needs changing on ancient games like Boogie Monsters? (Unless I'm mis-reading what's happening, but it seems odd that every individual game has a 'downloading' pause when launched.)
    1 new game "Karate Pig", but WHY are all the other 400+ games downloading all over again. MGS have been asked this numerous times, but will not say why. The new game downloads and launches in seconds, but the lobby spends the following HOUR or more doing something to the existing games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post
    1 new game "Karate Pig", but WHY are all the other 400+ games downloading all over again. MGS have been asked this numerous times, but will not say why. The new game downloads and launches in seconds, but the lobby spends the following HOUR or more doing something to the existing games.
    This is what concerns me.

    For the record I am not making any accusation here, but I do not understand what on earth needs to be changed with all the existing games that are already on the casino. (If indeed this is what the download is doing.)

    It's not downloading all the games again, (for the full MG catalogue to download on a fresh install takes over 24 hours as it sort of 'trickle downloads' any time any MG casino software is running until complete, and it uses a shared cache across all casinos at C:\ProgramData\MGS\cache), but as far as I can tell it is doing something to all of them.

    I have to say that this is where my paranoia circuits kick in, certainly if you were wanting to do a little casino-wide tweak to RTP, I guess this is how you'd do it.

    It would be nice if an MG rep here at CM could explain what this update is, as it feels like more than just adding one new game to the casino software!

    EDIT - I just launched the new Karate Pig game at 32Red on the kitchen laptop, then closed the game and went back to the main games view screen, and the background downloading carried on. Then I just fired up a random old slot (Rainbows End) and that had a little 'downloading' period before it started



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    I don't know if you just started playing MG casinos, but this has happened to me and everyone else every time there is a new game.
    It's really annoying.
    Does it really takes 24hours for you to download a new MG casino? That's very long
    I takes a few hours for me but that's only because I'm playing at the same time.
    Some casinos never get's fully downloaded until the next update comes along



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirilej View Post
    I don't know if you just started playing MG casinos, but this has happened to me and everyone else every time there is a new game.
    It's really annoying.
    Does it really takes 24hours for you to download a new MG casino? That's very long
    I takes a few hours for me but that's only because I'm playing at the same time.
    Some casinos never get's fully downloaded until the next update comes along
    I bought a new laptop for the kitchen a few weeks ago, so installed 32Red and just left it downloading the entire casino overnight (and all the next day too ), it was well over 24 hours before it'll pulled down the 10GB+ of data that it wanted to.

    That just seems to be how fast it goes, it's not my connection speed (I'm on 16meg ADSL that can max out Steam downloads at 1.3MB/s for hours on end), it seems to be by design so that it doesn't aggressively take over a connection.

    As for it always doing this 'verifies every game' thing in the past, I suppose I have tangentially noticed it in the past, but I was always usually playing at the same time so it never sunk in. As I now have multiple casinos installed across multiple PCs, it's become more noticeable



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    I try to only have three MG's downloaded at the same time. The more you have the more the games seemed to slow down, at least on my old computer.
    But 24hours. No way it takes that long for me, and I switch computer rather often since they don't always want to work the way I want them to so I do know that



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChopleyIOM View Post
    This is what concerns me.

    For the record I am not making any accusation here, but I do not understand what on earth needs to be changed with all the existing games that are already on the casino. (If indeed this is what the download is doing.)

    It's not downloading all the games again, (for the full MG catalogue to download on a fresh install takes over 24 hours as it sort of 'trickle downloads' any time any MG casino software is running until complete, and it uses a shared cache across all casinos at C:\ProgramData\MGS\cache), but as far as I can tell it is doing something to all of them.

    I have to say that this is where my paranoia circuits kick in, certainly if you were wanting to do a little casino-wide tweak to RTP, I guess this is how you'd do it.

    It would be nice if an MG rep here at CM could explain what this update is, as it feels like more than just adding one new game to the casino software!

    EDIT - I just launched the new Karate Pig game at 32Red on the kitchen laptop, then closed the game and went back to the main games view screen, and the background downloading carried on. Then I just fired up a random old slot (Rainbows End) and that had a little 'downloading' period before it started
    This has happened, but was rather a dismissal rather than an explanation. We were told that there was nothing being changed, just the new games being added. This explanation does not cover the fact that OLD games state "downloading" when launched during the process, nor the very clear evidence of the download progress bars in the lobby showing existing games being deleted (greyed out), and then immediately reinstalled.
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    I dont believe they are being re installed VWM merely tweaked in some fashion. On my home broadband unfortunatly its slow, no more than 1 Mb and a new game can take anywhere from 5 minutes to half an hour to download depending on its size and complexity but what your all talking about regarding the auto updating of existing games happens to me too and with all them (like everyone else i imagine) but it doesnt take anywhere near as long. Even with my paltry broadband max it only takes a minute or so for each game to auto update as it moves down the list so it cannot be a complete reinstall. I dont know what their doing but it definatly fals into the tweaking category



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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiManinBoro View Post
    I dont believe they are being re installed VWM merely tweaked in some fashion. On my home broadband unfortunatly its slow, no more than 1 Mb and a new game can take anywhere from 5 minutes to half an hour to download depending on its size and complexity but what your all talking about regarding the auto updating of existing games happens to me too and with all them (like everyone else i imagine) but it doesnt take anywhere near as long. Even with my paltry broadband max it only takes a minute or so for each game to auto update as it moves down the list so it cannot be a complete reinstall. I dont know what their doing but it definatly fals into the tweaking category
    I see this, and it clearly is not a full reinstall, yet since MGS games are supposedly never changed once released, there is no need even for this "tweak". These "tweaks" can happen SEVERAL times a month, yet unlike new game releases, they are unannounced, and we are not allowed to know the details of what changes are being made. Other softwares (non casino) have auto update features where the existing version is tweaked, but there is usually a changes document available that details what these changes are.

    With MGS, and despite the regular tweaks to existing games, there is no obvious difference between the "before" and "after" in most cases.

    Even though much less bandwidth is used than for a full game reinstall, the "tweaking" can last for an hour or more, and more or less monopolises the processor during that time such that doing something else instead whilst waiting for the process to complete can be painful. Worse, this happens at EVERY MGS casino, as rather than one tweak being applied across the board, each MGS casino has to go through the process itself, so that's one hour or more per installed casino.

    I thought the common cache design was supposed to stop this, with the first MGS casino launched taking an hour or two, but the rest using those updates right away rather than having to repeat the process.
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    You are right here, I just recently got a new pc and my first casino 32Red took eonssssssssss to load down all the games on my broadband being 1 meg as you can imagine however my second casino install Dash loads any game I want within seconds pretty much which proves the cache is working as it is supposed to. Im not sure what the minor tweaks and updates are to existing games, maybe some form of stability match to allolw compatability with any new releases that come out I dont know but I do know that the caching works once you have your first mg casino fully downloaded.



    Quote Originally Posted by vinylweatherman View Post

    I thought the common cache design was supposed to stop this, with the first MGS casino launched taking an hour or two, but the rest using those updates right away rather than having to repeat the process.



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