I sometime feel like the casino's are cheating

[wonnoting]

I dont know if it's me or they are really cheating, but I have notice this many times. This only happen when you start to bid a little high. The games I have been playing are blackjack. I have tested this with many casino's. When playing low hand like $1 the games feel ok and nothing wrong but once you start to bet $8 let say and you got 20 and stand the computer pick up another card then it stop for like a good 6 seconds and pick up another card and get 21.

Why does it stop so 5-6 seconds made me wonder that it happen before like 10 times and the computer always got 21. Does the computer pick out of the deck what card he needs to beat me is why it take long.

From the 10 or more times it happen to me I started with low amount and nothing was wrong all up to I bet higher and have a good card. The computer will pause for a while and always get a better hand then me most of the time 21. It really makes me think now is there something wrong going on. Does the casino have access to control the software or only the company who made the software.

[funeralparty]

Funny, I was going to post something about this today. I believe 100% that most softwares cheat....but of course only to a certain extent so as not to raise the suspicions of their "independent auditors"

Many posters will say they don't need to cheat because the built in odds will guarantee the house gets their share....but I really don't buy that. You will find many, many threads on this subject here.....and believe me these arent just angry losers.

And yes, I get the same pauses...and no, I don't believe its just internet traffic...Just the other day I was playing an extended session at a MG casino. I was making between $5-$10 bets. Everything seemed fine. I decided to throw one down for $25. Before my cards were dealt I got the slight pause....and then was dealt an 11. I pretty much knew I was being set up, but doubled anyway. And of course I lost the hand. This exact scenario has played out before time and time again with MG. Now, I HAVE won plenty from MG bj in the past.....the software just like to throw those dummy loser doubles at you every now and then.

At least with Playtech, you KNOW you're going to lose

[phynqster]

What you have to remember as a player, the reason you are probably raising your bets is that you are winning and are pushing your win. So it just makes sense if when you increase your bets is now when you start losing. May be when you are on a losing streak you should increase your bets and see what happens? Just a thought.

[scrollock]

Originally Posted by funeralparty

Funny, I was going to post something about this today. I believe 100% that most softwares cheat....but of course only to a certain extent so as not to raise the suspicions of their "independent auditors"

Many posters will say they don't need to cheat because the built in odds will guarantee the house gets their share....but I really don't buy that. You will find many, many threads on this subject here.....and believe me these arent just angry losers.

And yes, I get the same pauses...and no, I don't believe its just internet traffic...Just the other day I was playing an extended session at a MG casino. I was making between $5-$10 bets. Everything seemed fine. I decided to throw one down for $25. Before my cards were dealt I got the slight pause....and then was dealt an 11. I pretty much knew I was being set up, but doubled anyway. And of course I lost the hand. This exact scenario has played out before time and time again with MG. Now, I HAVE won plenty from MG bj in the past.....the software just like to throw those dummy loser doubles at you every now and then.

At least with Playtech, you KNOW you're going to lose

i quit playing online BJ a couple of months ago, quite simply because i didnt want to be taken for a ride anymore.

then the other day i found £10 in playtech account of mine, for some silly reason i decided to play it on BJ, 10 hands later @ £1 a pop it was all gone. this was no particular shock coz as you say you expect to get ripped off here.

the next thing i know ive a stack of offers in my inbox from an MG, which can be played on BJ and having low WR's i havent seen for a few years now, it was actually this casino i last played BJ at and convinced me to give it up as i lost my biggest ever bet to a dealer miracle pull (i.e. 11v5, which is then doubled,I get a 9, dealer then gets a 6 & a 10).back to the story, this big loss actually resulted in me getting VIP status and hence the easy offers.

but when i played them, i was absolutly shocked to see the way the cards played, it was enough to put any playtech to shame. I always had MG down as the most honest, but there has defintley a change in the way the cards are playing, as i could see hand after hand the dealer making a miracle pull every single time.

[eek]

Originally Posted by phynqster

May be when you are on a losing streak you should increase your bets and see what happens? Just a thought.

[frafi]

my experience with nearly all casino i played is this:

I make nearly every time a little profit on the first deposit.
After coming back the next month they take back all the money and more.
So I think their software is programmed and knows the human greed. Sure, they have analysed our behaviour.
Everybody comes back and want more after winning.

On the Playtech site they say "without risk". What do you mean what they mean? They mean their customers, and that are not the players.

[raol]

Oh, man... If the casinos were cheating, do you really think it would take the server 5-6 seconds to execute that special cheating code? I wouldn't think so.

"Human perception" is not a good tool when it comes to evaluating if a game is fair or not (except if it's VERY rigged), you need statistics.

[KasinoKing]

Originally Posted by wonnoting

Why does it stop so 5-6 seconds made me wonder that it happen before like 10 times and the computer always got 21. Does the computer pick out of the deck what card he needs to beat me is why it take long.

Which casino / software are you talking about here??

I have noticed the pause too at several places, although it's more like 0.5 seconds delay instead of the normal 0.1 seconds.
(The human brain is very perceptive - especially a gambler who thinks he's being screwed! )

[singledeck]

Hi wonnoting and funeral party,
if you are interested for results in BJ on the long run , read my threads from last week about BJ generally with TITLE Global Player from the start. i agree, that the dealers card dealing-process is sometimes very suspicious also on the long run. like much people have made the same experiences, you will have no problems for unimportant games with low wagers and bets/stakes, but if you raise the regular betting amount, oh god, these online casino software professionals are really great, the apy out will fall down to earth and the casinos have unbelievable long winning series ... singledeck

[dickens1298]

Here's a thought:

If you think a casino is cheating, stop playing and withdraw your funds. Or if you just lose your big bets, bet small and win them all....

Wow - now's THAT is revolutionary!



All sarcasm aside, I find this thread rather amusing. I've managed to win several thousand dollars from deposits of merely several hundred. I have won on MG casinos, as well as Cyberlogic casinos, and Bodog and casino-on-net to boot. I've seen - and I'm sure other players have as well - wins out of nowhere - where I could win a couple of hands in a row standing on a hard 17 with a dealer 10.

Have I lost? Of course. But when I see the cards start falling the other way, I stop playing. Or switch casinos. Or withdraw my funds. I've generally found that when I lose my entire deposit, it's because I've tilted and played to win my losses back. Sometimes luck is just against you, and you're better off taking a break.

Remember - one of the greatest advantages of playing online is its convenience. Not only does that mean you can play anytime, but it also means that you can just stop whenever you wish. There is no long "drive back" to contemplate, no need to "justify" the time needed to reach the casino.