CROWN VEGAS / SUNSET PALACE: insight into, and portrait of, an RTG casino manager

[greedygirl]

CV--

I appreciate your quick responses.

Here's what has me a bit perplexed...

Tuesday, July 19th, I received an email from Rick (sent from the very same email address as the one used by Rick in the Start Casino thread):

Please send me your current list of advertising opportunities with prices.

Thanks
Rick
http://www.crownvegas.com
http://www.sunsetpalace.com

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I replied that due to some prior issues, we'd rather pass at this point.

Wednesday, July 20th, Rick replied (his reply was delivered, once again from the same address used by Rick in the Start Casino thread):

Would you be able to tell me what happened? We are under new management currently and have a very large ad budget.

Now I may not be the brightest bulb here, however, it seems quite odd to me that an employee who you dismissed two weeks ago, would now be actively seeking advertising situations for your casinos.

Originally Posted by CrownVegas
I appreciate it if everyone would be fair, it's not easy entering this industry and the reason I'm here clearing this all up is because I know how important all the details are to run a sucessful operation. The last thing we need is something like this pressing on. Like I said, I'm easy to reach, if you want to talk, I can even pm you a toll free line to reach me, icq, email, whatever you want.

Unfortuately, this is a very public situation you've found yourself in and as such, should be cleared up publicly. I'm certainly trying to be fair, however, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know something isn't right, here. There are too many inconsistencies throughout this situation, which need to be addressed.

I'll look forward to your response.

[CrownVegas]

CV--

I appreciate your quick responses.

Here's what has me a bit perplexed...

Tuesday, July 19th, I received an email from Rick (sent from the very same email address as the one used by Rick in the Start Casino thread):

Please send me your current list of advertising opportunities with prices.

Thanks
Rick
http://www.crownvegas.com
http://www.sunsetpalace.com

--
Webmasters visit http://www.casinorevenuehare.com for up to 50% payouts.


I replied that due to some prior issues, we'd rather pass at this point.

Wednesday, July 20th, Rick replied (his reply was delivered, once again from the same address used by Rick in the Start Casino thread):

Would you be able to tell me what happened? We are under new management currently and have a very large ad budget.

Now I may not be the brightest bulb here, however, it seems quite odd to me that an employee who you dismissed two weeks ago, would now be actively seeking advertising situations for your casinos.



Unfortuately, this is a very public situation you've found yourself in and as such, should be cleared up publicly. I'm certainly trying to be fair, however, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to know something isn't right, here. There are too many inconsistencies throughout this situation, which need to be addressed.

I'll look forward to your response.

Since he still had access to the email that was him. What I think he was doing was looking for advertising to start his own affiliate sites, probably not with us. There's no way he was getting an affiliate account with us, but he probably wanted to setup something on his own and use our name to get a foot in the door. I understand that you specifically have a thing against RTG operators but like I said, I'm here to clear that misconception and get CrownVegas and SunsetPalace on the map.

[Casinomeister]

Hi CrownVegas,

And welcome to the forum.

I'll be straight up with you here. Something is not kosher. I know the owners of Crown Vegas - I've met with them - had dinner with them - and in Montreal one of them even asked me if or when he could get CV back on board at Casinomeister. I wasn't aware of an ownership change, or a pending one, or whatever. But that's cool. That's not what's bugging me.

Rick@crownvegas.com signed up on the 6th in our forum, and made a few posts - all from the same IP.

He then emails me on the 19th the following:

Delivered-To: ----@casinomeister.com
Delivered-To: ----@casinomeister.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:45:27 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: advertising inquiry
From: "Rick - Crown Vegas Casino" <rick@crownvegas.com>
To: ----@casinomeister.com
Reply-To: rick@crownvegas.com
User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2005 00:45:27.0970 (UTC) FILETIME=[52BFB020:01C58CC4]

I recently joined your forum and are quite impressed with the quality of
the members, can you please forward me your advertising rate card and/or
what advertising opportunities you have available at your site including
your mailer which I am a subscriber to.

Cheers
Rick Scott
http://www.crownvegas.com

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Now this is came from the exact IP that he signed up with. I also thought it odd that no one at CV briefed him on the relationship between your casino and Casinomeister. Yes, it's correct that CV was listed here. But at a point a couple years ago, I discontinued endorsing casinos based in Costa Rica. Only recently has this changed.

Anyway, why would an ex-employee contact me for advertising? And as I write this, Rick@crownvegas is in the forum right now PMing Schwankwart (yes, I have these powers). He is signed in with the same IP as he has emailed me with. And this IP comes from the same server that is listed in his posts at Start Casino.

So, are you claiming that Rick is a rogue ex-employee who is masquerading as good ex-employee (as from his email dated 19 July), or what?

[CrownVegas]

Hi CrownVegas,

And welcome to the forum.

I'll be straight up with you here. Something is not kosher. I know the owners of Crown Vegas - I've met with them - had dinner with them - and in Montreal one of them even asked me if or when he could get CV back on board at Casinomeister. I wasn't aware of an ownership change, or a pending one, or whatever. But that's cool. That's not what's bugging me.

Rick@crownvegas.com signed up on the 6th in our forum, and made a few posts - all from the same IP.

He then emails me on the 19th the following:

Delivered-To: ----@casinomeister.com
Delivered-To: ----@casinomeister.com
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:45:27 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Subject: advertising inquiry
From: "Rick - Crown Vegas Casino" <rick@crownvegas.com>
To: ----@casinomeister.com
Reply-To: rick@crownvegas.com
User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2005 00:45:27.0970 (UTC) FILETIME=[52BFB020:01C58CC4]

I recently joined your forum and are quite impressed with the quality of
the members, can you please forward me your advertising rate card and/or
what advertising opportunities you have available at your site including
your mailer which I am a subscriber to.

Cheers
Rick Scott
http://www.crownvegas.com

--
Webmasters visit http://www.casinorevenuehare.com for up to 50% payouts.

Now this is came from the exact IP that he signed up with. I also thought it odd that no one at CV briefed him on the relationship between your casino and Casinomeister. Yes, it's correct that CV was listed here. But at a point a couple years ago, I discontinued endorsing casinos based in Costa Rica. Only recently has this changed.

Anyway, why would an ex-employee contact me for advertising? And as I write this, Rick@crownvegas is in the forum right now PMing Schwankwart (yes, I have these powers). He is signed in with the same IP as he has emailed me with. And this IP comes from the same server that is listed in his posts at Start Casino.

So, are you claiming that Rick is a rogue ex-employee who is masquerading as good ex-employee (as from his email dated 19 July), or what?

Like I said, he was definitely looking to get advertising I assume for setting up affiliate sites. While pretending to still work for us. I'd imagine he would have not paid, or would have linked to sites not owned by our group, with his affiliate code then we get the bad rap.

I'm going to offer a 100% signup bonus ...<snip snip snip>

[dominique]

You gotta love IP addresses.... all the nonsense that can be cleared up because of them....

[CrownVegas]

You gotta love IP addresses.... all the nonsense that can be cleared up because of them....

We actually have them logged on our servers from him accessing the email and plan to look into legal action. Since he was terminated as an employee, he had no authorization to be using it.

[Casinomeister]

I gotta leave like in two minutes - someone is picking me up.

But before I go, I just want to say I am tending to believe "Rick@cv is a rogue ex-employee. I've been PMing him ove the last few minutes. This is what I have:

______________________________

What's the deal?

casinomeister:
I hope you aren't here to turn my forum into a circus. Give me a reason why I shouldn't ban your account.

Sincerely,

Bryan
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Rick@CrownVegas
I'm not sure what I've posted here to indicate that I would do this to your forum?

Cheers
Rick
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casinomeister:
According to Crown Vegas, you are a rogue ex-employee of CV.

I'd like an explanation. Thanks!

Bryan

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Rick@CrownVegas
This is way too much drama for me. You might as well delete my username, I dont currently represent any casinos nor do I intend on continuing in the industry.

Cheers
Rick

And his email is bouncing.

Gotta go...

[greedygirl]

Originally Posted by CrownVegas
I understand that you specifically have a thing against RTG operators

Excuse me? At issue here is not whether or not I have "a thing against RTG operators" or not. What IS the issue is that it does not appear that we're getting the facts.

Just to set the record straight, however, there are some wonderful RTG operators out there. INetBet, King Solomon's and BoDog comes to mind. In fact, BoDog has been an advertiser on our site for several months and I look forward to a long and happy relationship with them.

If indeed any of what you are stating concerning "Rick" is true, I would then have to question the management practices within your organization. Security is paramount with any online gambling operation. The notion that an ex-employee's email access was not blocked immediately upon dismissal is a huge gaffe in security. Are you saying this was an oversight? If so, when did you catch it? When these issues suddenly came to light?

There are far too many coincidences and inconsistencies here. In fact, the deeper we get into this, the more puzzling it becomes.

Originally Posted by CrownVegas
like I said, I'm here to clear that misconception and get CrownVegas and SunsetPalace on the map.

Well, if nothing else, you're certainly accomplishing this, though probably not in the manner you had hoped.

[Casinomeister]

And please don't post bonus offers in the forum during a PR crisis. I feel that's in rather bad taste. Thanks! You can always do that in the "Strictly Commercial" section.

[CrownVegas]

I gotta leave like in two minutes - someone is picking me up.

But before I go, I just want to say I am tending to believe "Rick@cv is a rogue ex-employee. I've been PMing him ove the last few minutes. This is what I have:

______________________________

What's the deal?

casinomeister:
I hope you aren't here to turn my forum into a circus. Give me a reason why I shouldn't ban your account.

Sincerely,

Bryan
_________________________


Rick@CrownVegas
I'm not sure what I've posted here to indicate that I would do this to your forum?

Cheers
Rick
_________________________

casinomeister:
According to Crown Vegas, you are a rogue ex-employee of CV.

I'd like an explanation. Thanks!

Bryan

_________________________

Rick@CrownVegas
This is way too much drama for me. You might as well delete my username, I dont currently represent any casinos nor do I intend on continuing in the industry.

Cheers
Rick

And his email is bouncing.

Gotta go...

I think the idea of legal action against him might consider him to stop instead of digging a deeper whole.