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    Quote Originally Posted by Clayman
    Well. if you are saying RTG can set their BJ game to any number of decks between 1 and infinity that's news to me but I wouldn't disbelieve it. Is that what you are saying? If so, I have no reason to believe that any casino who won't tell you how many decks they are using in the first place wouldn't try to figure out just how many decks they can use to maximize their advantage while at the same time not allowing the player to know just how many decks they are using.

    I can only guess that just such knowledge is what they hoped, as wrong as such hope may be, to gain by looking at your strands. Why else do you think they would ask for such a thing? Or, do you think they are afraid of your system and looking for ways to beat it?

    How many strands (hands) at how many different decks did you run for this casino? Do you think they figured out they won't gain more than 0.1% no matter how many decks they use?

    Regardless, I hate the fact that RTG will never tell you how many decks they are actually using, (no matter how many they can choose from), and assume the worst if I ever play there. Past 27 decks or so, I know of no plays that will change BS anyway.
    Hi Clayman: As players become more and more aware of RTG's ability to switch the deck settings I think it could seriously impact RTG's bottom line as well as that of their licensees. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see RTG losing a couple more of their main licensees in exactly the same way that they lost the Phoenician and Nostalgia casinos.

    It will probably be a couple weeks before I'm able to say anymore than what I have on the strand data that I did put together. I'm sure there will be quite a lot more on that issue in the near future. Have a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cipher
    As players become more and more aware of RTG's ability to switch the deck settings I think it could seriously impact RTG's bottom line as well as that of their licensees.
    I think its always been known that RTG can switch their deck settings within some range and, like I said, if you already assume an 8 deck game, I think the most they can gain on BJ is 0.1%, no matter how many decks they choose to use. I would think they would know that with or without your strands. I don't think anyone thinks they use fewer than 4 decks.

    The fact no one seems to care up to this point leads me to believe the majority of players don't really care that much anyway and 0.1% max gain would have negligible impact on anybody's bottom line anyway. I think not being up-front about the rules and not paying their customers has a much greater effect in negatively effecting their bottom line.

    I assume you were required to flat bet in your strands since, at least as I've seen them in the past, they contain no data as to total units won or lost or even total dollars wagered. They could get alot more information from buying a simulation package for $100 or less. Unless, of course, they were using your strands to test their RNG in some way. And I don't even want to think about that.

    Nonetheless, I look forward in the next couple weeks to whatever conclusions you may reach on such strands. If you think I can be of any help privately in that regard feel free to PM me.

    What stated purpose did the casino have when they "asked" you to run strands on 1,8,20 and infinite deck settings?

    Did you just call them up and say "OK I'm done with 20 decks now. Switch me over to infinite deck now just on my game"? Are you saying they can change the number of decks at their whim for any given individual, even, perhaps, from one hand to the next?

    Am I to assume you performed this service for the casino free of charge? How eleemosynaryic of you.

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    How many decks???

    Would this help you check how many decks are in play?

    http://www.wizardofodds.com/games/bl...k/bjapx13.html

    It would take many many hands to use this method to make an estimate as to how many decks are being used, and assumes the number of decks wouldn't change while testing. Still could be useful?


    Cheers

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