32 Red is now taking US players!

[gaputernut]

I tried again last night, to register, still getting same "illegal operation"
hummm....oh well....spend my few $$ elsewhere...
When I get that error I also can not get to site to all anyone.
That is too much trouble to type all that in 4+ times...errrr

[KasinoKing]

I agree with gfkostas. The problem here is 32 Red seem to be dissuading both types of players because their sign-up bonus is so totally crap.
Anyone vaguely bonus-hunterish will just laugh & go elsewhere. (No bad thing )
But a non-bonus-hunting player looking for all the good things that I have no doubt 32 Red offers, will also be put off by the ludicrous terms of this SUB!

Unless it is very easy to opt out of (I haven't checked), they would be a lot better off just scrapping this SUB altogether!

But having said that - if 78 other MG operators can offer something a little more sensible to attract new custom - why can't 32 Red?

[DeMango]

I'm sorry Simmo but the fact is this: The bonus offer s**ks for a thinking human being! The offer is ridiculous, the variance at $50 hands will kill you! Just got a reup bonus from FL last week: 50% on upto $1500 deposit with a 10X wagerthrough (d+b) with only craps and roulette excluded. Can you say Autoplay at $1-$2 a hand at BJ?
That's 7 casinos (Grandmaster), I'm sure from Cryptos to other MG groups (VPL) to almost all Boss outfits you can easily find 50-100 better casinos as far as bonus, fair WR are concerned. My personal favorite is the betting limits & bonus of Will Hill. Their $40 monthly is not a lot of money but the terms are reasonable. I love FL because of the table game variety (not a slot slut). Check out their new French Roulette with en prison rule!
I note many agreements to the above thread here. It's called "Calling a spade, a spade)". I am not a bonus whore but I will not enter this garbage offer. I may someday play this casino if the baccarat is less than $10 a hand (unlike FL) so let me know. And trust me the present bonus offer would be refused!

[Simmo!]

I'm sorry Simmo but the fact is this: The bonus offer s**ks for a thinking human being!

You may be right DM

All I was saying really was that i think people should look beyond a one-off bonus when looking for a casino to play regular. Especially as bonuses won't be around for much longer IMHO anyway.

Plus, and without meaning to sound condescending, i doubt whether a player who takes a signup bonus seriously is a player that a casino really values, so why should they really offer great "terms"? Bonuses, as i understand it, are really there so people get a chance to play the games and check out the casino, not so they can win and run. This behaviour is exactly why i think signup bonuses will soon be gone from the reputable casinos in the industry.

In fact, personally i think casinos have a moral obligation to remove signup bonuses. Not that this is worth debating, but i think a lot (not all!) of people who are the type to try a casino because of its bonus are also the type of person who will chase their losses a bit too hard. But anyway, thats for another day...

The real "bonuses" should come from a casino with loyalty. Just as an example: 32Red give me a Club Rouge bonus of $132 every month. No wagering terms attached to the bonus per-se other than i must have deposited at least that, and before i withdraw the actual $132 must have wagered $3500. As this is my regular casino, thats all met by day 3 or 4 normally so its a bonus freebie.

[chuchu59]

[The real "bonuses" should come from a casino with loyalty. Just as an example: 32Red give me a Club Rouge bonus of $132 every month. No wagering terms attached to the bonus per-se other than i must have deposited at least that, and before i withdraw the actual $132 must have wagered $3500. As this is my regular casino, thats all met by day 3 or 4 normally so its a bonus freebie.[

Isnt wagering $3500 to cashing out a $132 bonus equivalent to a wagering term?

[Slotster!]

I was going to mention the Club Rouge thing.. There was a lot of complaining about why casino's go mad on enticing new players, but don't reward regular players so handsomely. 132 match every single month is surely one of the best in the business?... I'd be interested to see if any US players do sign up, and hear your opinions!

[Simmo!]

Isnt wagering $3500 to cashing out a $132 bonus equivalent to a wagering term?

Yes it is - but my point is if you are a loyal player and hence qualify for Club Rouge then you are wagering this each month anyway so the $132 is just a nice extra. Its a sensible bonus in that it rewards the regulars rather than the cut-and-run brigade. What would probably be termed "good business practice"

Also, it doesnt stop you taking out your winnings off the bonus anytime as i understand it. One minor gripe is that they say Club Rouge members get regular promotions ("check back here for more details" on the CR page) - but i've not seen one yet

To sum up my posts as its all getting a bit fragmented - i regard 32Red as the best casino (IMHO) for regular players, though not for bonus hunters.

[DeMango]

Okay Mr Simmo, so now you interest me (us). This regular bonus - is it tied to a 5% average bet? I love craps and baccarat - restrictions? Betting limits on the two games? Single deck (Classic) BJ?

[Simmo!]

Okay Mr Simmo, so now you interest me (us). This regular bonus - is it tied to a 5% average bet? I love craps and baccarat - restrictions? Betting limits on the two games? Single deck (Classic) BJ?

No average bet sizes. Just that Sic Bo, Craps or Roulette dont count to the $3500 wagering. Everything else is ok and assuming you've met the $3500 already you can play the bonus on any game you like as far as i'm aware.

But I'd suggest dont take the bonus til you've wagered $3500 in the month then you get zero restrictions and unlimited withdrawals. $3500 is easy anyway - I generally do that off a couple of hundred bucks no sweat and then i'll take the bonus later in the month when i'm cash-unrich

[gfkostas]

You may be right DM

All I was saying really was that i think people should look beyond a one-off bonus when looking for a casino to play regular. Especially as bonuses won't be around for much longer IMHO anyway.

I beleive that online casinos won't stop bonuses because it's the main thing that might attracts new 'fishes'.I like the idea of getting bonus due to my loyalty.I wouldn't play as I do without bonuses because I always feel that no matter if i win or lose the games might be 'fixed'.I would never bet serious ammount of money online and i think many of us wouldn't when a landbased casino is accesible.I trust online casinos fairness but I don't TRUST them.I can't trust any online casino to a degree that will make me bet 1 grant on black.....