32 Red is now taking US players!

[KasinoKing]

Not every gambler is a wild eyed, foaming at the mouth, crazed looking, bonus hunter!

People who value good reputation and customer service should sign up now!

The rest of us are going to give it a VERY wide birth!

Min bet = 5% of Deposit. Wagering requirement x 103.125
_________ ______________________________ __ Give me a break!

(WR was only x90 last week - they've put it UP!)

[GrandMaster]

This can be said for 50-100 casinos out there! Most have better wagering requirements.

Could you post this list of casinos?

[Macgyver]

Min bet = 5% of Deposit. Wagering requirement x 103.12
(WR was only x90 last week - they've put it UP!)

KK, though I agree with you that the minimum bet of 5% of deposit makes this particular bonus offer pretty bad, how do you get a wagering requirement that high?

Their site lists a 25X WR. If a player accepts the minimum bet percentage (read to mean: bets that percentage listed every bet), the WR still hasn't changed.

Am I missing something?

[KasinoKing]

I now always quote WR in terms of how many times you have to play through the amount awarded in bonus money. It's the best way to compare bonus value. (Thanks to Simmo!)

e.g. $100 with 100% bonus;
Wager both D&B x25 = $5000. $5000/$100 = 50 x the bonus amount.

With 32 Red, the bonus is (this week!) 32%
e.g. Deposit $100, get $32 bonus.
$132 x 25 = $3,300. $3,300/$32 = 103.125 x the bonus amount!

Scary, isn't it!

[Macgyver]

Thank you, that makes much more sense now.

[Petunia]

This can be said for 50-100 casinos out there! Most have better wagering requirements.

--- DeMango, but somehow they are lost in the whole yarball-mousenest-effect. I think the Red is doing good PR and THAT as well as everything else is setting them apart from the rest. I like them. I like their site, I like their pple, I just plainly like them :P THen again, I do have my very own 'pad' that I hang out too... hehehe
----------- ME? A well balanced individual, I think not! *grin*

[DeMango]

Thanks Petunia!
However there are many of us, I'm guessing a sizable majority, who have little need for customer service. We can read, we can follow instructions, we deposit correctly, and if we win, we withdraw the same way. So this "outstanding" customer service means nothing.
If I don't have a fair shot at a bonus that is a deal breaker. As I have said elsewhere, variance is the number one reason for busting out, not -ev. With these ludicrus terms the player is exposed, usually fatally. Not surprising then is the cacophony of portal and affiliates praise for this casino.

[Simmo!]

Not surprising then is the cacophony of portal and affiliates praise for this casino.

Well maybe thats true in some quarters - but I'm a portal owner and I've researched a shedload of casinos and 32Red is the casino i play myself out of choice. Make of that what you will Besides which, any affiliate who felt the need to support a casino because it had a bonus trap doesn't know the first thing about marketing!

With these ludicrous terms the player is exposed, usually fatally

Philosophy...
In my book, if you choose to accept "something for nothing" in life, you choose to take the baggage that goes with it. Doesn't matter if it's a free casino bonus, a free holiday from a timeshare company or anthing else for that matter. You may as well do a "get rich quick" search on Google and take a few of the offers that come up

Rant...(not aimed at anyone specifically)
Seriously though, I can see why a "bonus" is attractive to some people, hell i take them from time to time, but i sense that some people see it as their "right" to get free money for playing a casino and it really bugs me when they whinge on about the terms. If you don't like 'em, don't take 'em...no one's forcing you. Just don't bang on sounding like your human rights have been violated. Get over it and play somewhere else. Grrrrr.

If i ran a casino i wouldn't even offer a signup bonus - just give better loyalty bonuses. A well-run casino will thrive on its reputation. Besides, it won't be that long before bonuses are a thing of the past anyway, and no prizes for guessing why.
/Endrant

However there are many of us, I'm guessing a sizable majority, who have little need for customer service.

No offence DM, but thats what everyone says til they find they need it. Then the same people who thought that start banging on on these BBS's about "poor responses", "bad support" blah blah blah. They may not *need* "good customer service" but they need to know its there IMHO.

Cheers

Simmo!

[gfkostas]

I would have expected from 32red a montly bonus similar to the one at william hill or inter casino.Their current bonus is for laughs for me.

[largeeyes]

Here is my unbiased opinion. I have no connections with 32red whatsoever.

32red is a reputable online casino, which these days, is saying something. If you deposit and play, you're going to get paid. This is a comforting thing for anyone out there looking for a safe place to play.

Their bonus, especially the signup, for 95% of people is a bad deal. Just because I deposit $1,000 doesn't mean I like playing $50 hands of blackjack. To have to play such large hands, and with minimal bonus and very large WR I stand a large chance of being substantially down, if not ruined, by the time I have finished. I am betting that those $400 down get scared and then try to cut their losses and lose the whole grand, making it very profitable for the casino.