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Old 1st November 2004, 08:46 AM
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now wagering requirements

in some previous tred it was mentioned that newbies often get confused about wagering requirements, and that's the case with me. they usually explain it in some very complicated way. could anybody tell if there are any major tendencies, advantages and disadvanrages in some particular casinos?
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Yes there are.
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Yes there are.
If you would like to post or PM me with questions about specific casinos, I will do my best to help.
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well, I can't put it more specifically yet, I'm afraid - I mean can't name the casinos I'm particularly interested, as thet are almost all the same for me yet. I want to know:
is BJ always forbidden to regain your bonus?
can I always refuse the bonus in order to play BJ? should I do it or will I lose it automatically?
do I get my winnings only after all the bonus turns into real money, or can I withdraw a part in the middle?

that's it for now and 10x for your help!
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First, to answer some of your questions:

You can almost always refuse a bonus but not if you have wagered with it. So if you get a bonus you do not want, DON'T PLAY, not even a single $. Email the casino and ask them to remove the bonus. Whne they have done so, you can play.

I know of no place where you can withdraw, say half the bonus after fulfilling half the wager-requirements. It's always a all or nothing affair.

Think of it this way: Say you take a bonus form a casino. In this case the casino wants you to wager x amounts of $ before they will let you withdraw that bonus (this is called the wager-requirements for the bonus). In other words, you have to do some work (that is, play at the casino) before you earn your pay (the bonus). It's difficult to say something that applies to all casinos. However, here are some rules that applies to most:

Microgaming:

Bonuses are sometimes credited automatically, sometimes you have claim them, either by email or a claim-form on the casino-website. Sometimes you can play BJ to earn the bonus but most times not. This is always specified in the casinos Terms and Conditions. At most Microgaming casinos you cannot make a withdrawel before you finish your work. So say your playing to earn the bonus and lose it halfway through leaving you with only your original deposit, the casino will not allow you to withdraw this money. You will have to keep 'working' (playing) until you have fulfilled the wgaer-requirements.

Cryptologic:

The bonus is added to your account automatically. You can almost always play BJ top earn the bonus. You are also able to withdraw your deposit anytime, though if you want to withdraw any winnings and the bonus you have to finish the wager-requirements.

Boss-casinos:

Again, the bonus is added automatically. You can play BJ to earn the bonus. You can withdraw your winnings and your deposit anytime but this means that the casino will take back the bonus. Alos, note that you lose your own money first. So if you deposit $50 and get a $50 bonus and lose $50, the $50 left in your account will be considered the bonus. And as such you cannot withdraw it before finishing the wager-requirements.

Playtech:

Most of the time the bonus can never be withdrawn, even after finishing wager-requirements.

RTG:

Don't play there.

And something that applies to all casinos: ALWAYS READ THE T&C CAREFULLY AND IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBTS, ASK HERE OR EMAIL THE CASINO!!!

Specifically, you should look for:

1) Wager-requirements
2) Excluded games (games that cannot be played to earn the bonus).

Hope this helps you out
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JP, thanks for saving me LOADS of typing!

(I couldn't have explained it as good as you anyway!)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but usually, isn't it games with low-risk bet opportunities, like BACCARAT, CRAPS, ROULETTE, SICBO are the ones that are excluded in the wagering requirement?

Playing BLACK JACK is usually included in the wagering requirement, right?



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With the current wager-requirements there are no low-risk bets. And as I said, there are quite a few casinos that excludes BJ, mostly Microgaming casinos.
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Playing BLACK JACK is usually included in the wagering requirement, right?
Wrong! (Consider yourself corrected! )

Read JPSartre's 1st post - it's spot on!
(Especially RTG - Don't play there! )

From my study of ALL MG's last month:-

By the way, here's some more 'did you know's...' about the 82 MG's (in terms of wagering requirements for sign-up bonuses):-

Only 7 allow full wagering on Blackjack,
14 count it as 50%, 13 less than 50%, the rest ZERO!

For Video Poker: 14 full, 24 50% and/or no Jacks+, 4 30%, rest Zero.
18 allow slots only (No progressives!)
Only 19 have WR x15 or less, 10 of these are x6, but you need D+(Bx2) to cash out.
The highest WR is a whopping 90x playthrough!
The smallest % is 30% (excluding 0.05% & zero!), the biggest is 1,000%!
24 offer 'no deposit' bonus between $10 & $16.
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My 50% ReUp Bonus at FL allows full wagering on BJ. Only Craps and Roulette are excluded. And WR are only 10X(D+B)
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Correct me if I am wrong, but usually, isn't it games with low-risk bet opportunities, like BACCARAT, CRAPS, ROULETTE, SICBO are the ones that are excluded in the wagering requirement?

Playing BLACK JACK is usually included in the wagering requirement, right?



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Frankly,I can never understand why Baccarat and Roulette are low risk bet opportunities as long as you bet on one side only. In the land casinos that I frequent,it is very often that a gambler loses his entire fortune on baccarat.
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