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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirilej View Post
    Thanks for all the replies so far. Hopefully there will be some more specific answers, but probably not no..

    To sum it up I think we could say that we will never find out the real answer, since it's something that could hurt at least the small casinos.
    What we do know is that it probably is almost the same amount of people registering in all of the casinos, since most people have done like me. Started with signing up for the rogue casinos, learned their lesson and went over to sign up for all the others.
    At least that will go for all the casinos that allows people from US to sign up.
    The casinos only allowing "the rest" to sign up will probably have around the same amount that MrGreen have.
    I was only thinking of sign-ups now. The rest is probably a long way, at least for me, to even start to understand a tiny bit of

    400 000 registered customers is a decent number. MrGreen has advertised heavily in Scandinavia in recent years. Not sure, but I think they occasionally have been offering ND bonuses which always will attract some ND customers. As mentioned by others, difficult to know how many that actually have deposited or are depositing within a certain time frame.

    To give you an indication.

    You will see that those huge sportsbook/casino/poker groups have millions of registered customers. Some of them report that perhaps 5-6% are active customers (an active customers is usually defined as a customer who has done one or more deposits within the last 3 months). I do not have the opportunity to look up these numbers now, so they are not accurate. But I think that Unibet (market cap (value) of about £450 mill) is saying they have about 6 mill customers. And they have reported in the past that 300-350 000 are active customers. 32Red (£30 mill) has about 35-40 000 active customers. Betsson (£650 mill) 300-350 000 active customers before the acquisition of Betsafe. And you have even larger groups like William Hill (£ 1,400 mill, Paddy Power (£1,500 mill) and Ladbrokes (£1,200 mill) who most likely have many more active customers. It is impossible to know how many that are playing at the same time, but as you understand, you are probably not alone
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    Thank you so much neighbour

    I was actually on my way to send you a pm and ask what you know. You are usually very good of digging up these kind of information. It was exactly what I was looking for

    It was actually more players out there than I thought

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    Nifty29;464642]You said you "gauge your play" on the number of players in the casino and it "worked quite well for you". The logical definition of "gauge your play based on the number of players" is that you decide whether you will play or not based on how many others ate online I.e. you believe that the more players online, up to here you had it right...then you started to wander to over there---> the better your chances. Never said this, you did

    "Gauging" anything to do with your play or results using number of players is as pointless as it is irrelevant. not true...do you feel comfortable with a room packed full of people or with a nice average sized room full of people or a room that is empty? I would hate to think some newbie read your post and believed that such things matterWhere did I say it mattered to anyone but myself?? .....as it IS complete fantasy I still do not get what the fantasy is? Would it be how I choose to play?. If any newbies are reading this.....you'd be better off buying a rabbits foot and throwing salt over your shoulder than using the number of players online to dictate your play

    .Again your words not mine...nothing dictates how I play...just as you play the way you play.....
    Also, if you "knew what I would say" then you KNOW that what YOU said had no basis in fact..now you did surprise me because now you are mixing your meanings terribly (what FACT?) where did I say this is a fact?

    Fact-gauging-fantasy-dictating are not even close in any sense of meaning
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    otherwise I wouldn't be disputing it, and you wouldn't EXPECT me to.Aw c'mon Nifty, of course I would, you never failed me before

    If you have a different meaning for your comments, then I'm all ears. Otherwise, I reiterate what I said originally.....it is total fantasy. No you didn't say "I believe that the number of players online affects my chances" but you must believe it to a fair extent if you're going to "base/gauge" your play decisions on it. It's your call if you want to believe that, but don't try and step around by denying the crux of your opinion/statement.

    I would respect you more no need, I like you the way you are if you logically explained the reasons for your opinion, rather than backing away from it when challenged.I still cannot wrap my head around what is the total fantasy???
    You're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entitled to dispute it if it isn't based on fact.(yeppers and that's the truth... So now c'mon and give me a big ole kiss..It's almost valentines day..will you be mine??

    @smokeycasino - the post you're thanking contains personal insults. Maybe you could clarify exactly what you agree with?[/QUOTE]WHERE for goodness sakes is ther anything insulting in what I posted previously...Nifty, YOU NEED A HUG!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by silcnlayc View Post
    Nifty29;464642]You said you "gauge your play" on the number of players in the casino and it "worked quite well for you". The logical definition of "gauge your play based on the number of players" is that you decide whether you will play or not based on how many others ate online I.e. you believe that the more players online, up to here you had it right...then you started to wander to over there---> the better your chances. Never said this, you did

    "Gauging" anything to do with your play or results using number of players is as pointless as it is irrelevant. not true...do you feel comfortable with a room packed full of people or with a nice average sized room full of people or a room that is empty? I would hate to think some newbie read your post and believed that such things matterWhere did I say it mattered to anyone but myself?? .....as it IS complete fantasy I still do not get what the fantasy is? Would it be how I choose to play?. If any newbies are reading this.....you'd be better off buying a rabbits foot and throwing salt over your shoulder than using the number of players online to dictate your play

    .Again your words not mine...nothing dictates how I play...just as you play the way you play.....
    Also, if you "knew what I would say" then you KNOW that what YOU said had no basis in fact..now you did surprise me because now you are mixing your meanings terribly (what FACT?) where did I say this is a fact?

    Fact-gauging-fantasy-dictating are not even close in any sense of meaning
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    otherwise I wouldn't be disputing it, and you wouldn't EXPECT me to.Aw c'mon Nifty, of course I would, you never failed me before

    If you have a different meaning for your comments, then I'm all ears. Otherwise, I reiterate what I said originally.....it is total fantasy. No you didn't say "I believe that the number of players online affects my chances" but you must believe it to a fair extent if you're going to "base/gauge" your play decisions on it. It's your call if you want to believe that, but don't try and step around by denying the crux of your opinion/statement.

    I would respect you more no need, I like you the way you are if you logically explained the reasons for your opinion, rather than backing away from it when challenged.I still cannot wrap my head around what is the total fantasy???
    You're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entitled to dispute it if it isn't based on fact.(yeppers and that's the truth... So now c'mon and give me a big ole kiss..It's almost valentines day..will you be mine??

    @smokeycasino - the post you're thanking contains personal insults. Maybe you could clarify exactly what you agree with?
    WHERE for goodness sakes is ther anything insulting in what I posted previously...Nifty, YOU NEED A HUG!!!!
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    You said I had it right up until I said "the better your chances". OK.

    In that case, finish the sentence for me:

    "I decide whether I will play or not based on the number of players online, not because I think my chances are better, but because <insert your words here>"

    I'm not disputing your right to decide how you play, but since you stated that it depended on the number of other players, and in the absence of any other explanation, one assumes that you must think your chances of winning are better since you said it "worked well for you in the past". I said I was all ears if that assumption was wrong, but you still haven't explained what you meant. You just picked out lines from my post and said "I didn't say that" or "you're off the track" etc without explaining what the "right track" is.

    All I'm asking is for you to explain why you use number of players as a decision making tool. That's all. Forget about pointing the finger at everything I (logically) extrapolated from your initial post and explain what you meant.

    As for the hugs and other nice comments, I would take you up if i didn't think you were taking the p*ss.

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    Several times at INetBet, the random jackpot will go off while I'm in that slot. Would be interesting to know how many people were playing right at that time. Was it 100, 50, or 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by all4greed View Post
    Several times at INetBet, the random jackpot will go off while I'm in that slot. Would be interesting to know how many people were playing right at that time. Was it 100, 50, or 2?
    Interesting? Yes.

    Relevant? No.

    Which is the whole point I've been making.

    Considering RJs do not go off at preset $$ amounts, it would be immaterial whether there were 100 other players or 2 I.e. just because the jackpot went off while you were playing, doesn't mean you were any more "in the mix" than at any other time.

    If it was a $$ driven trigger, then you would indeed be "competing" against the other players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty29 View Post
    WHERE for goodness sakes is ther anything insulting in what I posted previously...Nifty, YOU NEED A HUG!!!!
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    You said I had it right up until I said "the better your chances". OK.

    In that case, finish the sentence for me:

    "I decide whether I will play or not based on the number of players online, not because I think my chances are better, but because <insert your words here>"

    I'm not disputing your right to decide how you play, but since you stated that it depended on the number of other players, and in the absence of any other explanation, one assumes that you must think your chances of winning are better since you said it "worked well for you in the past". I said I was all ears if that assumption was wrong, but you still haven't explained what you meant. You just picked out lines from my post and said "I didn't say that" or "you're off the track" etc without explaining what the "right track" is.

    All I'm asking is for you to explain why you use number of players as a decision making tool. That's all. Forget about pointing the finger at everything I (logically) extrapolated from your initial post and explain what you meant.

    As for the hugs and other nice comments, I would take you up if i didn't think you were taking the p*ss.
    [/QUOTE]

    Nifty,oddly enough, I really meant that about the hug...it seems you are becoming a little stressed again and I wanted to help ease you up a little...I even put it in my profile....see? So...please...it is not good for the heart to be so closed into one thought process...as to your
    "I decide whether I will play or not based on the number of players online, not because I think my chances are better, but because <of the dynamics of a casino at that time?>"
    Someone earlier said it better than I could...the results of ones session might depend on the input of players funds vs the out take I think was said...

    We talked about this before...the odds of hitting a Rapid Fire Jackpot.(can't speak of the random jackpots since they still are very illusive)..I hit this a lot playing at the casinos knowing how many players were on at any given time ...I used to watch a lot back then and I still do today and play a lot in fun mode but can no longer play at these casinos due to the restrictions....(old news here but refreshing memories) I guess the answer to the forced question you are demanding an answer to is..there is no real answer....Nifty, I have no real answer on why I play on how I play...I just know I feel good about the way I play back then and even today without the knowledge of how many players are around....I guess thats it in a nutshell..there is no black and white answer....since the player count is a moot point anyway for us in the USA at casinos online...

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    Nifty,oddly enough, I really meant that about the hug...it seems you are becoming a little stressed again and I wanted to help ease you up a little...I even put it in my profile....see? So...please...it is not good for the heart to be so closed into one thought process...as to your Someone earlier said it better than I could...the results of ones session might depend on the input of players funds vs the out take I think was said...

    We talked about this before...the odds of hitting a Rapid Fire Jackpot.(can't speak of the random jackpots since they still are very illusive)..I hit this a lot playing at the casinos knowing how many players were on at any given time ...I used to watch a lot back then and I still do today and play a lot in fun mode but can no longer play at these casinos due to the restrictions....(old news here but refreshing memories) I guess the answer to the forced question you are demanding an answer to is..there is no real answer....Nifty, I have no real answer on why I play on how I play...I just know I feel good about the way I play back then and even today without the knowledge of how many players are around....I guess thats it in a nutshell..there is no black and white answer....since the player count is a moot point anyway for us in the USA at casinos online...

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    .[/QUOTE]

    OK. Thankyou for answering my question, even though you said you couldn't.

    You played at times when there were more players because you believed your chances were better. It doesn't matter why you thought that, but that's what you did. Otherwise, there would be no point watching how many people were playing would there? You said that's not what you're saying, but the paragraph about the rapid fire Jackpots says exactly that.....which is why I originally stated that it how many players are online makes no difference to your RTP.

    The people who state that more funds in means more funds out are half-right.....the problem with that theory is that there are more players sharing the output so you're really no better off at all, hence it has ni effect on your RTP.

    I don't have an issue with you having that opinion, I just feel its necessary to state that it is not in fact the case and that slots don't work like that, for the benefit of those who didn't know.

    You don't have to justify or explain why you play a certain way, but if you do, which you did, you should be open to having those reasons challenged if the facts dont support them. It's nothing personal I assure you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nifty29 View Post
    Nifty,oddly enough, I really meant that about the hug...it seems you are becoming a little stressed again and I wanted to help ease you up a little...I even put it in my profile....see? So...please...it is not good for the heart to be so closed into one thought process...as to your Someone earlier said it better than I could...the results of ones session might depend on the input of players funds vs the out take I think was said...

    We talked about this before...the odds of hitting a Rapid Fire Jackpot.(can't speak of the random jackpots since they still are very illusive)..I hit this a lot playing at the casinos knowing how many players were on at any given time ...I used to watch a lot back then and I still do today and play a lot in fun mode but can no longer play at these casinos due to the restrictions....(old news here but refreshing memories) I guess the answer to the forced question you are demanding an answer to is..there is no real answer....Nifty, I have no real answer on why I play on how I play...I just know I feel good about the way I play back then and even today without the knowledge of how many players are around....I guess thats it in a nutshell..there is no black and white answer....since the player count is a moot point anyway for us in the USA at casinos online...

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    OK. Thankyou for answering my question, even though you said you couldn't.

    You played at times when there were more players because you believed your chances were better. It doesn't matter why you thought that, but that's what you did. Otherwise, there would be no point watching how many people were playing would there? You said that's not what you're saying, but the paragraph about the rapid fire Jackpots says exactly that.....which is why I originally stated that it how many players are online makes no difference to your RTP.

    The people who state that more funds in means more funds out are half-right.....the problem with that theory is that there are more players sharing the output so you're really no better off at all, hence it has ni effect on your RTP.

    I don't have an issue with you having that opinion, I just feel its necessary to state that it is not in fact the case and that slots don't work like that, for the benefit of those who didn't know.

    You don't have to justify or explain why you play a certain way, but if you do, which you did, you should be open to having those reasons challenged if the facts dont support them. It's nothing personal I assure you.
    Nifty, again you are saying something I didn't...this is just a gentle nudge to reply to your
    there were more players
    I never said more players, just players in general...because like I am trying to help you understand...if there were many..I might not play, if there were too few again I might not play..It was just when It felt "right" ...so there is no true black and white answer...and you keep trying to fit the answer in that you are reading into the sentence. I know you like black and white, but at times ...there is none...sometimes in life a lot of things are grey and this is one of them..

    And again, it doesn't matter anymore anyway because we do not see the amount of players anymore for the US players....


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    i remember many moons ago when i used to play william hill casino it used to say how many players where online i.e playing slots or poker,stopped playing there never got any free chips even when loseing loads,then found 32red great.

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