RTG - Does Bet Size Increase Or Decrease Your Odds?

[me_and_ed]

All randoms are set to pay at a certain $ amount, you have a far greater chance to achieve that amount due to a higher bet only because you are covering a greater spread, has nothing to do with RTP on the randoms.

[bb28]

All randoms are set to pay at a certain $ amount, you have a far greater chance to achieve that amount due to a higher bet only because you are covering a greater spread, has nothing to do with RTP on the randoms.

I'm either misunderstanding your post or you are misinformed. RTG randoms are RANDOM and there is no set amount. Look at all the varying amounts they go off at. Dogboy did say the higher your bet, the bigger chance you have of making one go off but still it's random.

[me_and_ed]

I'm either misunderstanding your post or you are misinformed. RTG randoms are RANDOM and there is no set amount. Look at all the varying amounts they go off at. Dogboy did say the higher your bet, the bigger chance you have of making one go off but still it's random.

You are misunderstanding me, they are random, however internally they have a point that will payout, once that point is hit it pays, if you are betting in .20c increments you have to be awfully lucky to hit that set point, the more your bet is the more ground you cover so to speak.

[cheetahwind]

If that's the case then Penguin Power at Sun Palace Casino, in my opinion should have paid out a long, long time ago. Mainly because if I were in the casinos shoes. I wouldn't want an old style slot machine sitting at $16k+ for an internal jackpot payout. I'm pretty sure why this particular slot hasn't paid out is mainly because Penguin Power. I'm pretty sure has lost popularity to other newer games, so the play isn't as frequent. Therefore people aren't going to be hitting on that random jackpot payout generator as much. To get that to pay out. I'm pretty sure it's random otherwise like I just said before. I don't think if I would let this kind of internal jackpot get this high, if I had controls on it.

You are misunderstanding me, they are random, however internally they have a point that will payout, once that point is hit it pays, if you are betting in .20c increments you have to be awfully lucky to hit that set point, the more your bet is the more ground you cover so to speak.

[me_and_ed]

Who really knows, I have seen randoms as high as 40k. I just sent my friend a BBM, he is a programmer with Bodog. I will get the skinny and post when I hear back, it has been explained to me bfore as I have posted it.

[Nifty29]

Actually, the RJs do not hit at a predetermined $ value. Some slots do, but not the RTG ones.

Dogboy explained it a while back, but basically after each spin the game asks "Jackpot? Yes/No?" and the server responds accordingly.

Now, if you can imagine 100,000 boxes where only 1 has the "yes" answer inside. Each time you spin @min bet (1c) you get to pick one box....if its the yes box you win the RJ, otherwise you don't. If you bet 10c per spin, you pick 10 boxes, if you bet $1 you get 100 boxes etc etc. The boxes are not removed once picked. In this way, you get an idea of how bigger bets give you more chances.

You could also imagine it as an instant lottery where each 1c gives you 1 ticket which has to match the winning number preselected by the server (not the $ amount).

The examples above are simplified and its a little more complicated but its the general gist.....enough for us plebs to have a fair idea of how it works. Also, the numbers I stated above are just made up for arguments sake and should probably be in the millions.

The examples also show just how tough it is for you to win, even with a decent betsize.

If dogboy sees this I'm happy to be corrected if need be.

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

Actually, the RJs do not hit at a predetermined $ value. Some slots do, but not the RTG ones.

Dogboy explained it a while back, but basically after each spin the game asks "Jackpot? Yes/No?" and the server responds accordingly.

So how the server actually knows to say "Yes" or "No"? It could be programmed to say Yes then RJ reaches a certain amount, not saying it's done that way but it could. or they could add a timestamp to it. Whoever gets this spin is a random winner. Don't forget that servers will not do any " random" things, its all programmed.

[me_and_ed]

Actually, the RJs do not hit at a predetermined $ value. Some slots do, but not the RTG ones.

Dogboy explained it a while back, but basically after each spin the game asks "Jackpot? Yes/No?" and the server responds accordingly.

Now, if you can imagine 100,000 boxes where only 1 has the "yes" answer inside. Each time you spin @min bet (1c) you get to pick one box....if its the yes box you win the RJ, otherwise you don't. If you bet 10c per spin, you pick 10 boxes, if you bet $1 you get 100 boxes etc etc. The boxes are not removed once picked. In this way, you get an idea of how bigger bets give you more chances.

You could also imagine it as an instant lottery where each 1c gives you 1 ticket which has to match the winning number preselected by the server (not the $ amount).

The examples above are simplified and its a little more complicated but its the general gist.....enough for us plebs to have a fair idea of how it works. Also, the numbers I stated above are just made up for arguments sake and should probably be in the millions.

The examples also show just how tough it is for you to win, even with a decent betsize.

If dogboy sees this I'm happy to be corrected if need be.

Yes, you have articulated my thoughts much better than my words, that is exactly what I am saying regarding the bet size and the amount of "boxes .20c will cover compared to $5, it is random to all of us as when it will go off but it is predetermined to when the yes box will be hit. Thank you!!!

[Nifty29]

So how the server actually knows to say "Yes" or "No"? It could be programmed to say Yes then RJ reaches a certain amount, not saying it's done that way but it could. or they could add a timestamp to it. Whoever gets this spin is a random winner. Don't forget that servers will not do any " random" things, its all programmed.

Yes, I'm sure it could be done that way but my information is to the contrary.

The amount of "boxes" would determine an average amount of spins required and give the casino an idea of roughly how big the Jackpots might get, and would negate the need for a predetermined trigger point. I've seen them up to $80k before and my understanding is that there's no cap, so potentially they could hit $1m. The amount of "boxes" and the number of "picks" that happen on a daily basis would be the reason they seldom go over $20k.

Anyway, I guess it doesn't help any of us win one, as we have no control apart from how much we spin and how much we bet. It's just really academic, but interesting.