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    Cool Accredited CM casinos without Danish license

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    59 (1) Anyone who intentionally or by gross negligence provides or organises games in Denmark without holding a licence under this Act shall be liable to a fine or imprisonment for up to six months.


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    As from today, operators who want to offer play to Danish customers should have a Danish gambling license.

    Operators who now are licensed in Denmark are obligated to pay a duty of 20% on the gross gaming revenue + regular corporate tax + license fee.

    Yes, it is expensive to operate in a regulated and legal marked. But the Danish regulation is seen as quite reasonable.

    The case is that there are several CM accredited casinos who have applied (and been granted) one or several licenses. Some examples are Nordicbet, Ladbrokes, Betway (Gnuf) and Bet365. But most casinos on the accredited list have not applied, so they hold no Danish gambling licenses.

    Responsible operators who do not hold a Danish gambling license should therefore not accept Danish customer.

    I contacted some accredited unlicensed (unlicensed in Denmark to my knowledge) casinos today and asked them “do you accept Danish customers?”.

    This is what I was told (by e-mail or live chat):


    3Dice:

    thank you for contacting support. We do welcome Danish players, but leave it to the player to know the legislation in his or her locality.

    Paddy Power:

    No im afraid we do not accept players from this Country

    32Red:

    Yes:-)

    +E-mail from Nedplay:

    As we have not been advised to the contrary, then at this moment we are still happy to accept players from Denmark.
    If and when this situation does change, then of course we will contact any players affected and update as necessary.


    Club World Casino:

    We are based in England, and we welcome players from all over the world, however it is up to the player to find out if playing online is illegal in their state / country

    Platinum Play (Fortune Lounge):

    With regards to your request I can confirm that at the moment we are not able to acquire any new players from Denmark.
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    We have applied for all the various licences required by your government, and this should all be confirmed and approved by March if not before then.


    Bodog:

    Yes, sir. We accept players from any part of the world

    Virgin Games:

    Yes we accept players from Denmark at Virgin Games.

    INetBet:

    Yes we have many players from Denm\ark, you are welcome.



    The Danish Gambling Authority has already said that they will at any time consider to IP block unlicensed casinos and relevant payments. So yes, I am quite surprised to see that many unlicensed accredited casinos will continue to accept Danish players. These casinos are putting their Danish players at risk in my opinion (funds may be confiscated, players may have problems with withdrawals etc).

    And there is also a ethical side of this as well. Some accredited casinos are now a part of the player protective regulation where they are paying duties and taxes (+license fee) for their Danish income, while other accredited casinos…well, they do not.

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    with all do respect , the fees that that [new to the game ] countries that want to cut to the front of the line like im expecting the U S A to do got some nerve bryan and max should look them over and make shure there in the best interest of the players [all of a sudden its there game ]

    before they even start to think there a over seer lets put them on probation also lets see first what in fact they can do to improve the return to player and demolish rogue casino groups

    they have no power on the net just greed for a piece of the action
    comments please R C

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    All I got till now are messages from sites who have been granted a danish license. None reported leaving the Danish market yet.
    Including but not limited to:
    betway
    purple lounge
    intercasino
    roxy palace

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockycatt View Post
    with all do respect , the fees that that [new to the game ] countries that want to cut to the front of the line like im expecting the U S A to do got some nerve bryan and max should look them over and make shure there in the best interest of the players [all of a sudden its there game ]

    before they even start to think there a over seer lets put them on probation also lets see first what in fact they can do to improve the return to player and demolish rogue casino groups

    they have no power on the net just greed for a piece of the action
    comments please R C

    The tendency in Europe is quite clear. More and more countries will regulate their own market. Denmark is only one country on a longer list of countries who already have started to regulate or are planning/ discussing regulation. I think the regulation in Denmark is quite reasonable for both operators and players. There are examples in other countries where operators have been required to for example pay tax based on turnover etc.

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    It's pretty straight forward, you either have, or have applied for the new required Danish gambling license.

    If you don't get one, you've been warned by their government, they will do whatever is necessary to block the I-Gaming sites and players.

    This equals losses for everyone..
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    This could generate a few nominations for the 2012 "Head in the sand" award. Those that have not acted are probably still relying on the fact that the internet is hard to police, and that prohibition hasn't really worked in the US.

    The Danish authorities should call their bluff and ENFORCE the new rules, and show that they are serious. Operators should have been applying last Autumn, and clearly some have. They will not be too pleased to find that this was a waste of time and money because no effective enforcement is taking place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P.V. View Post
    It's pretty straight forward, you either have, or have applied for the new required Danish gambling license.

    If you don't get one, you've been warned by their government, they will do whatever is necessary to block the I-Gaming sites and players.

    This equals losses for everyone..
    One can see that the danish government wants a piece of the cake, but as it has been said, policing the internet is pretty impossible. They can either go for the dns-block or ip block, but using another dns-server or a vpn will get around it. The same with blocking payment methods.

    Something tells me this will favour a few casino groups who doesent tend to care about any laws at all.

    Atleast the danes doesent use the the problem gambling excuse, as they do here. Allowing people only to play with the company the government owns who gives like 50% back to the players.

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    Spain is going down the same route now, and I have already recieved several emails about operators pulling out, or removing certain parts of their casinos for Spanish players.

    EDIT: Most notably Paddy Power and Party Casino.

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    o, bad news for Danish players, 32red added Denmark to it's restricted territories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
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    Virgin Games:
    Yes we accept players from Denmark at Virgin Games.
    Hi guys,

    Virgin Games stopped accepting players from Denmark last month.
    Rainmaker, apologies if you were informed otherwise.


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